Online in the next The Elder Scrolls game is inevitable

Post » Sat May 12, 2012 4:44 pm

The next TES game will have a new engine obviously due to being on next gen consoles, PS4 and X720.
If you mean that in the same vein as TES:V having a 'new engine' ... :teehee: ... then: yeah.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 2:31 am

'' Multiplayer doesn't mean the single player would have to suffer. ''

Yes it does...

Elder Scrolls gameplay isn't designed for multiplayer. Having two players would destroy the game balance and PvP would be incredibly unfair considering the kind of skills and spells available. Gameplay is very unfair towards the NPCs and as a result incredibly fun for the player.

If they wanted to make it multiplayer then they would have to change the basic design of the gameplay. It wouldnt be Elder Scrolls. Not to mention the way they design the world. It isnt designed for multiplayer. worlds that are designed for multiplayer often don't look as realistic as they have to add room in the design for multiple players. And the way multiplayer games go about their resources is also different. No way you could have the game looking as good as it does, be as huge/open and have multiple players on consoles. Small level based multiplayer games might look good, but that would kill Elder Scrolls compleetly.

TC, I also dont get how you think that the next TES has to be multiplayer. This is the most succesful in the series yet. It shows that true singleplayer games still sell. Why do what everyone else is doing, when you have a profitable niché that you are good at?
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 5:28 pm

'' Multiplayer doesn't mean the single player would have to suffer. ''

Yes it does...

Elder Scrolls gameplay isn't designed for multiplayer. Having two players would destroy the game balance and PvP would be incredibly unfair considering the kind of skills and spells available. Gameplay is very unfair towards the NPCs and as a result incredibly fun for the player.

If they wanted to make it multiplayer then they would have to change the basic design of the gameplay. It wouldnt be Elder Scrolls. Not to mention the way they design the world. It isnt designed for multiplayer. worlds that are designed for multiplayer often don't look as realistic as they have to add room in the design for multiple players. And the way multiplayer games go about their resources is also different. No way you could have the game looking as good as it does, be as huge/open and have multiple players on consoles. Small level based multiplayer games might look good, but that would kill Elder Scrolls compleetly.

TC, I also dont get how you think that the next TES has to be multiplayer. This is the most succesful in the series yet. It shows that true singleplayer games still sell. Why do what everyone else is doing, when you have a profitable niché that you are good at?

I agree that Skyrim is not set up for it, but that doesn't mean future titles couldn't do it well. Again, look at the masterpiece that was NWN. Aside from the stock single player campaign, there are what... THOUSANDS(?) of player created modules you can pick from. Just because a game has multiplayer doesn't mean it can't have a good single player as well.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 3:59 am

Mabey they could just make a spinnoff IP where you play as your avatar, use crossbows and quest rewards are Call Of Duty unlocks.....

Call of Oblivion ( alotta xbl members wouldnt know what an elders scroll is )
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 12:35 pm

But they've been fairly clear that Bethesda's ES games will continue to be single player.
I hope they keep their word and keep TES as a single-player only game. As soon as they announce any kind of multiplayer TES will officially be dead.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 5:10 pm

Savegames this size synched among console clients? No, I don't think so :D
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 8:15 am

"You can never say never to anything like that, but it's not what our focus is. This type of game is where our hearts are, what we get excited about, and that's what we want to focus on. We don't want to lose that focus and we never want to sacrifice anything in the singleplayer game just to have it be multiplayer."
-Todd Howard


This, so much this.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 8:16 am

A huge open world RPG with lots of content and multiplayer?
Yeah, that's an MMORPG. Wait for ZeniMax Online to announce TES Online.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 11:23 am

Bethesda practically said the opposite.

They enjoy SP games that are too involved and persistent world to allow MP very well without it being tacked on and half ass
Of course they said that - they released a single player title, and you don't do statements like "uh, yeah, but we don't care for that, really". If they ever release an MP Elder Scrolls game, they will happily say that this was what they'd wanted to do for a long time, and that MP was the best thing ever since sliced bread. Welcome to the world of PR. :wink:
The same with the Todd Howard quote - their hearts are in the games they're currently doing, and if that would change, their hearts would migrate. :wink: Not that he's lying or so, I do believe that they want to do games like current ES titles, but it ultimately depends on their success.

That being said, I don't see MP coming. Skyrim apparently sold spectacularly well, and that's what counts. There would be reason to worry if an ES title bombed, but until then, they'd be stupid to change an obviously winning team.
Co-op multiplayer (even Baldur's Gate had that, albeit quite clumsily, but it's ancient history) might come some day - with companions and mercenaries playing a much greater role (or anything at all) in Skyrim, there's the foundation of what that might feel like. But doing a full WoW - nope.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 8:21 am

Sure, it is inevitable for the next TES. This game sold only 10 million copies. :rolleyes:
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 11:26 am

If Skyrim had done badly the maybe, but if anything Skyrim showed that there are a lot of people (thank god) who do not need multiplayer to enjoy a game. Considering how well this game sold I doubt that they will feel the need to include it in the next one.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 10:08 am

If it's inevitable and there's no single-player game, it's inevitable that I won't be playing TES. I'll find other single-player games or play what I have now. I won't let the door hit me in the heinie on the way out either. Just not interested in multi-player at all.

:tes:
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 7:24 am

Todd Howard says every time they do a game they consider multiplayer but they decided it wouldnt work out well and I dont think their opinion will change any time soon, if there was a multiplayer though I would like something like borderlands or an arena
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 6:25 am

If it's inevitable and there's no single-player game, it's inevitable that I won't be playing TES. I'll find other single-player games or play what I have now. I won't let the door hit me in the heinie on the way out either. Just not interested in multi-player at all.

:tes:
Matches my feeling on this issue as well.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 5:47 pm

I feel like Skyrim will be the last stand alone single player only TES game. In an era with an increasing amount of multiplayer games, I feel like the next TES game will fall prey to this as well. No one thought the Dragon Age series would have multiplayer but now DA3 will feature it.
As bad as it may sound, I feel multiplayer wouldn't be so bad as everyone thinks.
Instead of these useless NPC characters that assist you you could have your online friend adventure along with you in a huge world.
Imagine being able to create your own shops in the game where you can set your own prices and all other players will be able to purchase from.
Co-op in dungeons and such would be incredibly fun.
Multiplayer doesn't mean the single player would have to suffer.

Actually I think what Skyrim actually showed was just the exact opposite. You dont need multiplayer to make the sales. SKyrim really illustrated a need for MORE single player games that engage the player rather then a handful of MMOs, Online FPS' to choose from. The Market is heavily saturated with online games, all competing for players to commit to them. I think at this time, Bethesda has taken the right road and stuck to what it knows, because it is working. There are plenty of online games to chose from and while you may think Skyrim would make a great MP game, it would be balanced. How wold you like to enter a town and find out thast Captain Vadar the Badass killed everyone? Or go to rob a house to find 20 thieves already at it. In its current itineration and game design philosophy, Bethesda could not build a MP game that would feel like an Elder Scrolls game.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 9:45 am

I doubt it. Whenever Todd is asked about it, he pretty much says "No." as politely as he can.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 11:55 am

Multi-player actually does force several things onto players, at some time or other. I liked AoC for a while. And then suddenly I realized that, to do anything after a certain point, I had to dedicate my play time to cooperative playtime, whether I wanted to or not, and everything, and I mean everything, followed the mob-rule mentality. It became un-fun right after that point. I will steer clear of any multiplayer TES game. And anyway, The entire point of TES is that the player is the focus, the lone hero, the pivot on which fate is turning.

I strongly feel that multi-player is 'gee-whiz' in its implementation and doesn't add much to the actual playability or play value
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 4:09 pm

I wouldn't mind optional private Co-op, that could be pretty cool. Play an instanced dungeon or two with a couple of friends. But if someone started acting stupid things could get bad, like if one person goes on a rampage murdering all your NPCs. Plus, whose game save would you be playing on?

MMO or general Online would be pretty terrible though. And Single-Player should always be the focus.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 9:20 am

lol. Just like this game was going to have co-op

and mounted combat.

The only way it will happen is with a mod, (which is already being made) but the last 3 games it never got finished
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 11:02 am

This game gets boring very quickly they will have to introduce multiplayer one day because it feels worthless after you complete a game thats single player because theres nothing to show or do. They will have to introduce multiplayer because if you look back nothings changed in the Tes line other than a new story everything remains the same and gets boring very very quickly.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 4:20 pm

When you create a gameMP,is done with the subject matter of MP,that mean sthat if there is a single player missions, is for a single player. Skyrim is a game designed for single player, there fore,applied philosophy Skyrim,is for singleplayer. When we speak of MP, is a game with the structure and philosophy for MP. Skyrimis a single player game, which could make a game with the theme Skyrim MP, if you could and this is not discussed. Are those who like the idea, and those without. I believe that venture, it would be interesting, but is for those who like the idea. If you do not likea sweet, do not eat it, but do not cry about it.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 1:59 am

This game gets boring very quickly they will have to introduce multiplayer one day because it feels worthless after you complete a game thats single player because theres nothing to show or do. They will have to introduce multiplayer because if you look back nothings changed in the Tes line other than a new story everything remains the same and gets boring very very quickly.

The game gets "very boring" to you. Do you understand that just because you find it so, that doesn't mean it's true for anyone else? You are speaking for yourself; this is your personal opinion, not a "fact".

You do not "finish" this game. There is no "ending". You did not "complete" this single player game. You, personally feel you've finished it. Good for you. That's not a universal opinion and it's not how the game is even designed. The story does not 'end' after you finish any quest at all. And to you, personally, you have "nothing to show or do".

And lastly, it is absolutely not true in the slightest that "nothing has changed" in this series of games other than a new storyline. I really don't think your opinions carry much weight when you confuse your playstyle with the way things should be, and you cannot see the differences in each and every installment of the ES series
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 6:12 am

It's inevitable that the TES game won't be online
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 11:31 am

When you createa gameMP,is done with thesubject matter ofMP,that meansthat if there isa single playermissions, is for asingle player.Skyrimis a game designedfor single player, therefore,appliedphilosophySkyrim,is for singleplayer.When we speak ofMP,is a game withthe structure andphilosophy forMP.Skyrimis asingle playergame,whichcouldmake a gamewith the themeSkyrimMP, if youcouldand thisis not discussed.Arethose who likethe idea, andthose without.I believe thatventure, it would beinteresting, butis for those wholike theidea.Ifyou do not likea sweet,do not eat it,but do not cryabout it.
I'm guessing this is a mobile reply. :P

There is a multiplayer discussion thread...
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 3:59 pm

I think if should be the idea of a SkyrimMP,MP philosophy.
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