Patch 1.7

Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:50 pm

Dear Bethesda, please hurry up and fix quest bugs. Kinect bugs only are relevant to a small number of people who own a peripheral on only 1 of the 3 platforms Skyrim is supported on. Meanwhile, the Attunement sphere is a bugged quest item that is a part of the main quest that all players encounter. Please fix quest bugs!
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:31 pm

The games that sell best on console have three main traits that they share:
1) Heavily marketed
2) Big name either in the title or in the developer
3) Not very difficult
Unfortunately this is mostly true. There are a few exceptions, but it is mostly true. Call of Duty was good for the first few games, but now it's just horrible, and it still sells extremely well on consoles. Honestly, the reason I have a PC and a 360 is because I use the PC for strategy games, and games that consoles can't handle, and the 360 for games like Gears of War to play with friends. If it weren't for xbox live I wouldn't have a 360, because I like the games for PC better.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:59 am

What does GFWL do to make PC games worse?

There's a video somewhere where it takes a guy 25 minutes to start playing Arkham because GFWL forces him to restart the game about 4 times and create an account.

It's all around a god-awful service that gives back nothing of value. Nobody uses it so the (bad) social functions are worthless.

Microsoft knows this and tries to pay all high profile PC releases to use it in order to get more people off of PC. Hell, they push "security" updates that do absolutely nothing functional timed with any major GFWL-tied release. Probably to force people that just bought Arkham City / whatever big-name GFWL title to go through update hell and remind them that Microsoft wants them buying console games instead. And the way their licensing agreement is, you can't actually bundle your game with the latest GFWL. It's designed so that anyone downloading the game off Steam is forced to go through a year's worth of updates. Valve has to honor the licensing, so they can only package the version of GFWL the game shipped with with any given release. You know, to make sure PC players have to spend 30 minutes updating the worthless piece of [censored].

Way back when GFWL was MS' serious attempt to turn PC gaming into a closed platform. It was to provide matchmaking, a central hub, yadda yadda ... for the low low cost of an XBL Gold membership. Thankfully PC gamers are smarter than that, so Halo 2 sold like five copies :). GFWL is more or less the same today other than not needing to pay for it. It doesn't have any new features from way back then. They push it as basically malware now using bribes and other pressure on devs to sell consoles by annoying PC owners. Everybody hates it and most hated it the instant it was announced well before Vista was even out.

Thankfully using GFWL is statistically proven to dramatically lower sales, so very few developers these days accept the bribes. It's hard to make up for missing half of your deserved sales because of GFWL. You know how Bethesda and the forum mods usually crack down hard on any mods that mess with the third party software attached to their games? I never once saw Beth or any forum mod here trying to stop the spread of the GFWL remover mod for Fallout 3. That ... probably tells you something. Today I think the script extender actually disables GFWL ...
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:13 am

Nevermind
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:34 am

I wonder how many times people have to post "you CANNOT fix any dawnguard problems on xbox or ps3" before people realize that beth has never fixed any dlc problems ever.
Please go to the fallout wikias if you dont belive me, I dont like stating miss truth so I read through every single patch they put out, no dlc fixes.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:39 am

I wonder how many times people have to post "you CANNOT fix any dawnguard problems on xbox or ps3" before people realize that beth has never fixed any dlc problems ever.
Please go to the fallout wikias if you dont belive me, I dont like stating miss truth so I read through every single patch they put out, no dlc fixes.

You have to patch DLC separately on consoles, which means an extra ~$40,000 minimum per DLC patch in addition to the fee for patching the actual game.
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