I hear it's on Steam.
Anyone got the details of what it fixes? I hear it's not many fixes at all, but would still be interested in knowing what is there.

Details on bethblog.

It fixes around seven or eight things. It's very pathetic for over a month of no support.

Could be better, but then most developers abandon their games once they have been out this long. Way to go Bethesda!

It pretty much fixes some Kinect things mostly, and nothing at all from the beta bugs posted. Which makes me wonder why it's even a beta patch on steam when all the bug fixes are 360 related. Kinect related at that, most people don't even use Kinect. I think it's safe to say this isn't the patch everybody has been wanting for Dawnguard, unless more bug fixes are in it and not being announced.

Hopefully there are more fixes.

I want the weapons to clean up properly already!!!

The games been out nearly a year, most developers would have dropped support by now. Its pathetic that your complaining about the game getting updated.

Really? Considering all the problems people have been having and the state it was released. Also,bethesda said they would continue to support it. So,you think its pathetic he's complaining about the game being updated,yet we are getting DLC. Get a grip son.

I honestly can't believe what people say sometimes.

Wonder if that's because Kinect is Microsofts latest baby, so to speak?

Once you are done mangling your native language, consider this. Beth can pull support at any time, and there is jack you can do about it. Any patch of any kind at this point is above and beyond what the vast majority of devs/publishers would bother with releasing. So not only is the patch welcomed, despite what it doesnt fix, but its bloody good news as it means continued support at this stage.

And yes I think its entirely pathetic to criticise the game being patched. Because its frankly moronic to do so. And dont bother calling me son pal, at my age Im old enough to be your dad.

What's really pathetic is that the USKP is far superior to Bethesda patches, but that's just because fans give a [censored]. Also, the whole gaming industry is quite pathetic excluding a few gems (Bethesda not being one of them).

So it's ok to pull support even though they making DLC's?....You don't make sense. They are still supporting the title because of DLC's. So yeah. I still think it's stupid what you said. They won't fix things properly,but still support by making DLC. So they are making you pay for half arsed stuff. They don't give support,people will stop buying DLC. So i'll say again. He his entitled to complain,and i still don't agree with your comment.

It's not rocket science.

Lol ok kiddo. Developers for YEARS have dropped support and released content at a later date as DLC. DLC does not equate support, its additional content thats it. Beth did so with previous games, Oblivion was done patching yet DLC content was still made for it by Beth.

This is true.

I guess it all comes down to good business. Releasing a buggy product, and not fixing it is not good business, and is not a way to attract new customers, or keep existing ones. With Bethesda's trend I can never see them being a top developer.

What part of " Bethesada said they would continue to support it " do you not understand?
Regardless of what you say...people have right to ask for better support,or expect things to work properly. They can pull it all they want.That will not go down well for future DLC's or games of theirs. When skyrim was released it got alot of attention for bugs and a calling for fixes ( support ). Because of this , and the fact they still want your money....they will support it. Though i suspect not very well.

I refuse to buy future Betheda products until they grow up, and start being a responsible developer with good business practices.

Actions speak louder than words, remember that. It doesnt matter what was said, its the action of updating thats important. Other developers have said "We will continue support" and what they actually meant was "no more patches but buy our over-priced pointless content". In their eyes DLC is support, as its keeping the title alive.


Like who may I ask?

I know it doesn't matter what was said by them,because i don't believe them. But the point is ,they said it. My my overall point in this was to disagree on your point that it is pathetic to ask for things to be sorted out via patches. You called him pathetic for wanting things done right. I think it's more pathetic to sit there and defend the broken things in the game.

And where might I ask, did I say anything about defending broken things in the game? Thats right I didnt, so dont put words in my mouth. I said its pathetic to criticise them patching it simply because its been a month since the last patch. I have a sheloads of problems on my characters, but Im not about to whinge that a patch doesnt cover my specific issues or the time it takes to release it. Considering the team have been working there collective backsides off to sort out problems with FIGS versions that were outwith thier control, a month to wait for a patch is a bloody good turn around for those living in the real world and not the interwebz fantasy world were patches are made overnight.

LOL - Because business in general tend to be money-grubbing ***-wipes is exactly why this patch svcks. I consider it a blatant slap in the ****s to release a patch for the pc that should have been inclusive to the M$ money-machine. It is clear, at least in my opinion that Bethesda/ZeniMax has been bought and paid for. From a business point-of-view I'm not faulting them necessarily, just calling it like I see it.

You are just all kinds of offensive, aren't you?

Everything in this topic is a MOOT point. We are discussing this particular patch, not Bethesda's business model or practices. Do any of you realize that this is exactly why the other thread on this topic was closed?

Now, that said, the patch mainly deals with stability and Kinect issues. Mostly it is minor, but the memory and stability parts will greatly help out people with the general lag experienced since installing Dawnguard (360).

http://www.bethblog.com/2012/07/23/1-7-beta-update-available-on-steam/

If Bethesda was a bunch of money grubbers, as you protest, then we wouldn't have gotten any patches. They would have released the game, and left it at that. Save for maybe pushing a few more dlc on their consumers.

See: The EA model for gaming, and all their subsidiary companies.

Seriously, it was only the 8th of the last month you got a free update adding new content (mounted combat). You really have 0 reason to be complaining. Aside for the sake of complaining that is.

i like that what you said , its great news 1.7 patch is coming especially that i'm a PS3 user n we did'nt get 1.6 patch