[celebrity]

exactly BGS is obligated to respond to us the customers comes first anyone tht sees different may not be wrong legally but are wrong morrally, some industries have alot of middle men and dnt care about customers that doesn't make them right but BGS can't hide behind middle men they know tht if they lied to us they must pay the price.

No, they are not. Unless you've seated yourself in their offices with expectation of receiving a copy of the game in a timely fashion and they assented to your sitting down to wait, the restaurant comparison is like that rap star, what's his name? Oh yeah, LUDACRIS [intentional sic].

[Sami Blackburn]

No, they are not. Unless you've seated yourself in their offices with expectation of receiving a copy of the game in a timely fashion and they assented to your sitting down to wait, the restaurant comparison is like that rap star, what's his name? Oh yeah, LUDACRIS [intentional sic].

the fact of the matter is that it's their obligation to keep their word on these things

[Red Sauce]

So why exactly do you feel the need to stress what your money will be going to? I'm sorry, but why do we care?

It's enough to say; "I'm disappointed in Bethesda. Won't be buying Dawnguard."

It's your money, your wallet. You choose what to do with it.

[Makenna Nomad]

Wow my post got completely deleted! Interesting. Is it really that big of a surprise that there are people out here that are smart enough to know what "No Plans" really means?

[Red Sauce]

Here are the facts

1. DG release was announced only for the Xbox 360 and would be exclusive to it for 30days, no PC or PS3 release or time frame for release was mentioned.

2. Bethesda has not promised PC or PS3 owners that you will get Dawnguard nor have they said you won't get it.

3. Your basically beating a dead horse.

[Yvonne]

So why exactly do you feel the need to stress what your money will be going to? I'm sorry, but why do we care?

It's enough to say; "I'm disappointed in Bethesda. Won't be buying Dawnguard."

It's your money, your wallet. You choose what to do with it.

a pimp named slickback

[loste juliana]

Here are the facts

1. DG release was announced only for the Xbox 360 and would be exclusive to it for 30days, no PC or PS3 release or time frame for release was mentioned.

2. Bethesda has not promised PC or PS3 owners that you will get Dawnguard nor have they said you won't get it.

3. Your basically beating a dead horse.

I remeber hearing we should get 30 days after.

[Madison Poo]

@KDodds
For someone who claims to be an advlt, you're pretty bad at acting like one. All I've seen you do is spew insult after insult at others. Being a condescending jerk is not maturity. As for your "point", I don't recall anyone saying Bethesda had an obligation to us. This is about the basic human relationship between a business and their customers. It is in their best interest to communicate with the people who want to buy their product. It's that simple. They've treated their fans as friends in the past, and pretending we don't exist now is leaving many people feeling confused and betrayed. For all intents and purposes this is a venting thread. If our venting disgusts you so much, stop reading it.

[Tamika Jett]

I remeber hearing we should get 30 days after.

BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE
Gaming for me is like cocaine
If I dont get it when I'm supposed to I start tweaking

[Gisela Amaya]

Here are the facts

1. DG release was announced only for the Xbox 360 and would be exclusive to it for 30days, no PC or PS3 release or time frame for release was mentioned.

2. Bethesda has not promised PC or PS3 owners that you will get Dawnguard nor have they said you won't get it.

3. Your basically beating a dead horse.

This is what I don't get, some people think PS3 and PC players will not get Dawnguard. How much sense does that make that Bethesda took the deal from Microsoft to let the Xbox have it exclusive for 30 days when no other platform will get the DLC?

[Rachel Hall]

BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE
Gaming for me is like cocaine
If I dont get it when I'm supposed to I start tweaking

Exactly.

[Kellymarie Heppell]

This is what I don't get, some people think PS3 and PC players will not get Dawnguard. How much sense does that make that Bethesda took the deal from Microsoft to let the Xbox have it exclusive for 30 days when no other platform will get the DLC?

more money for less work OBVIOUSLY
its like you are going to eat a chicken
You have made up your mind that you are not going to eat the cow
and then the cow walks up to you and is like
here's 5 grand, don't eat me

[Tammie Flint]

the fact of the matter is that it's their obligation to keep their word on these things

What word? They haven't offered any "word" on whether or not PC/PS3 users will get DG at all. In fact, about the best they've said so far all boils down to this somewhat nebulous statement, "We will have more information for you in the future." That's neither confirmation nor denial, and holds to no concrete timeframe. If in three or four weeks they see fit to say, "The more information is here, and it is this: 'We have no further information.'", well, they'd still be "keeping their word". Please read the part about a company's obligations again. Your perceptions of what those obligations are are clearly skewed.

[Chloe Lou]

Do i need to repost the CDR link again?

http://cdr.thebronasium.com/app/211720

This is basically fact that Dawnguard will, at some point in time, be on the PC. Since it is on the Steam servers, in testing. Yes, they can pull it back if they wanted. But why put it up in the first place?

[Amber Hubbard]

A couple of things to keep in mind from past experience. Remember, this isn't the first time Bethesda has had a timed exclusive DLC.

1. Exclusivty deals usually require the publisher to be quiet about future plans until the exclusivity is over. So Bethesda wasn't going to announce PC & PS3 plans while the DLC was exclusive to the 360.
2. Even when the exclusivity ends we don't see immediate announcements. Fallout New Vegas also had a timed exclusive for its first DLC. Dead Money was released on the 360 on 12/21/2010. Nothing was said about any other version until 2/4/2011. That's beyond a 30 day exclusivity period - its about six weeks. The DLC came two weeks after the announcement.

So don't be surprised if its a few weeks before we hear anything. I'm not expecting to see Dawnguard until the end of August, at the earliest.

[BRAD MONTGOMERY]

No, they are not. Unless you've seated yourself in their offices with expectation of receiving a copy of the game in a timely fashion and they assented to your sitting down to wait, the restaurant comparison is like that rap star, what's his name? Oh yeah, LUDACRIS [intentional sic].

its not about a timely fashion its principle treat customers with care everyone knows this there is just no reason for the silence, and they look guilty as hell but im still hoping all this is all a misunderstanding but. I can't know all because the law tells them they dnt have to tlk doesn't mean its the right thing to do customers are voters, a long time ago ppl would consider rosa parks a cry baby the laws and morrality haven't caught up with each other yet

[Rachel Briere]

Exactly.

that moment when I walked into gamestop a week after skyrim came out
the guy says they have one collectors edition left cuz the last one didnt get preordered and I literally throw 200$ at him

[Ludivine Poussineau]

A couple of things to keep in mind from past experience. Remember, this isn't the first time Bethesda has had a timed exclusive DLC.

1. Exclusivty deals usually require the publisher to be quiet about future plans until the exclusivity is over. So Bethesda wasn't going to announce PC & PS3 plans while the DLC was exclusive to the 360.
2. Even when the exclusivity ends we don't see immediate announcements. Fallout New Vegas also had a timed exclusive for its first DLC. Dead Money was released on the 360 on 12/21/2010. Nothing was said about any other version until 2/4/2011. That's beyond a 30 day exclusivity period - its about six weeks. The DLC came two weeks after the announcement.

So don't be surprised if its a few weeks before we hear anything. I'm not expecting to see Dawnguard until the end of August, at the earliest.

I want it soon. But that wont happen, so I would like to know WHEN at least.

[ShOrty]

that moment when I walked into gamestop a week after skyrim came out
the guy says they have one collectors edition left cuz the last one didnt get preordered and I literally throw 200$ at him

I want one of those, but they are tooo pricey lol

[Justin Bywater]

I want one of those, but they are tooo pricey lol

I literally THREW 200$ in 20s at him
he gave me fifty back because it only costed 150$
I walked out of that store with a grin on my face and seman in my pants bro

[Charlotte Buckley]

This is what I don't get, some people think PS3 and PC players will not get Dawnguard. How much sense does that make that Bethesda took the deal from Microsoft to let the Xbox have it exclusive for 30 days when no other platform will get the DLC?

buts that is just what they told us, there is more to this if they lied about the deal we would never know why yu ask? because no obligations to communicate means no obligations to tell the truth

[Shelby Huffman]

I literally THREW 200$ in 20s at him
he game me fifty back because it only costed 150$

I preorderd the collector's edition myself for PC and a copy of the guide book. But yet I have to wait for an unknown amount of time for this new content while someone else who bought the game 2 months after me USED gets this new content a month before me.

[Astargoth Rockin' Design]

@KDodds
For someone who claims to be an advlt, you're pretty bad at acting like one. All I've seen you do is spew insult after insult at others. Being a condescening jerk is not maturity. As for your "point", I don't recall anyone saying Bethesda had an obligation to us. This is about the basic human relationship between a business and their customers. It is in their best interest to communicate with the people who want to buy their product. It's that simple. They've treated their fans as friends in the past, and pretending we don't exist now is leaving many people feeling confused and betrayed. For all intents and purposes this is a venting thread. If our venting disgusts you so much, stop reading it.

Explaining the workings of business to those who clearly do not understand it AT ALL, that's not condescending. Too many people see the revelation of their own ignorance as the revealers' flaw and not their own. The only way you could see that as insulting is if you know it to be true about yourself, but do not wish it to be. Look, I'm super skinny, so, if someone says, "hey, wide load" to me, I could hardly consider it an insult, could I? Bean pole, well maybe. But I still wouldn't be insulted. Because I know within myself where I stand. Think about that.

Again, it's business, not a personal relationship. Bethesda is not your husband, wife, girlfriend, or best friend. They are under no obligation to communicate with you AND, furthermore, given the rabidity, self-indulgent whining, and what not I've seen here, it probably is in their best interests NOT to communicate with you. Although, they actually have, except not in the way you high-maintenance gamers might like. Read the first sticky, thats the one I'm watching for REAL information.

Not "calling you back" in what you perceive to be a timely fashion is not Bethesda's obligation, and they're doing nothing wrong by NOT calling you. Seriously, you people need to get out more and make some real friends if you get this upset when a company doesn't answer the phone. It's not like you've paid them for the DLC already or anything.

Sheesh.

[Laura Samson]

What word? They haven't offered any "word" on whether or not PC/PS3 users will get DG at all. In fact, about the best they've said so far all boils down to this somewhat nebulous statement, "We will have more information for you in the future." That's neither confirmation nor denial, and holds to no concrete timeframe. If in three or four weeks they see fit to say, "The more information is here, and it is this: 'We have no further information.'", well, they'd still be "keeping their word". Please read the part about a company's obligations again. Your perceptions of what those obligations are are clearly skewed.

I preorderd the collector's edition myself for PC and a copy of the guide book. But yet I have to wait for an unknown amount of time for this new content while someone else who bought the game 2 months after me USED gets this new content a month before me.

^^^
Outrage? Or does that seem fair to you?

[Cassie Boyle]

Has Dawnguard for the other platforms been cancelled?