PCPS3 Release Date Thread part 17 : V - Skyrim

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:32 am

Looking back, I think it was worded fine. They are yet to announce plans for a release for other platforms, he was just stating fact.

The wording was terrible. It let people assume that it's not coming out at all.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:32 am

I agree food and gas is more important but if a company does not communicate for an unreasonable amount of time we are entitled to complain(not saying Bethesda is doing that just example). in all industries an unreasonable amount of time is different for each industry, (example) fast food, a half hour is an unreasonable amount of time to wait especially without communication. the same applies to the gaming industry but obviously a different time frame a months of silence is not good and ppl have the right to complain

Again, you are totally missing the point. He was talking about entertainment in general. Going back to a point I made in my previous comment, what you deem unreasonable is subjective. It's your own personal definition of it. You obviously feel that the current situation has induced an unreasonable wait, and that is the basis of your argument.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:38 am

Anyway , I'll summarize the situation of myself.

I'm going to buy Dawnguard , I love Skyrim and I love all TES games.
What made me angry is the all out Xbox love from the side of Bethesda , I mean just search their blog for 'Dawnguard'.
You get in every article " Xbox " " Xbox " " Xbox ".
I think the love should be spread to all the platforms even if the exclusivity is only for one.

Another think I want to say is , I see many people say Dawnguard will be shadowed by many soon games.
I really don't care about all of them and dislike many of them , I really wish to play only Skyrim ( And Dawnguard when it will be possible ).

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:02 am

Its mistake to think that all things will follow a set pattern, You assumed things would work like they have in the past. That's your mistake not Bethesda's they never said after 30days they would release DG for pc/ps3 or give a release date. Why people cast off the part that Beth said nothing about a PC/PS3 version release when they announced the xbox version I will never understand...

look they called it a 30 day exclusive I know tht is not what they meant but because they said tht alot of ppl got 20 dollar ps dollars, let me give u a better example u see a Dawnguard commercial for xbox and it said 30 day exclusive, tht is all it says dnt u see how misleading tht is even some moderators on this forum thought that it was suppose come after the xbox exclusive, Bethesda was a bit iffy on details tht is not anyones fault but theirs

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:18 am

Looking back, I think it was worded fine. They are yet to announce plans for a release for other platforms, he was just stating fact. People put their own meaning on it, that's what caused the confusion.

People putting spin on stuff is a basic consideration when commenting about an issue on the interwebz. Shouldn't be, but is

What he needed to do is simply either leave zero doubt aboutDGs arrival, or say "I am not allowed to comment". The latter would still have caused a storm, but it would have spared me a facedesk. Maybe they had a bet going to see how much grief he could cause by being truthful

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:03 am

Coming this week for consoles, according to Gsaff;

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Ah well. I don't have too many issues with my version (other than trying not to bloat my savefiles.) I'll give Uncle Todd a chance.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:16 am

No, food is a necessity, games are a luxury. Two very different things.

yes I agree but they are both commodities

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:12 am

The wording was terrible. It let people assume that it's not coming out at all.

That's the fault of people putting their own spin on it. It didn't help that countless gaming articles jumped on it either. It didn't do anything past what he said, which was telling people that there was no announcement regarding it's release for other platforms, which there wasn't.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:09 am

I agree food and gas is more important but if a company does not communicate for an unreasonable amount of time we are entitled to complain(not saying Bethesda is doing that just example). in all industries an unreasonable amount of time is different for each industry, (example) fast food, a half hour is an unreasonable amount of time to wait especially without communication. the same applies to the gaming industry but obviously a different time frame a months of silence is not good and ppl have the right to complain

Everyone has the right to complain if there is a valid reason behind
But your point in my opinion its invalid unfortunately - on this forum i see gstaff -member of bethesda staff - that constantly communicate with forum members to resolve any possible issue in the best and fastest way

In your case you are referring a non- issue simply because they've never announced that dawnguard would have been out for ps3 and pc at "x " day/month/year or something similar.

And no,food isn't a commodity like games,you have made a terrible mistake comparing the two things - a primary need with an entertainment product

If you don't eat you die,if you don't play games ?

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:06 am

yes I agree but they are both commodities

But you were fundamentally comparing necessities to luxuries, therein lies the problem.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:22 pm

yes I agree but they are both commodities

The point is one takes massive priority over the other in terms of life importance. That they are both commodities is a moot point.

EDIT: with regards to your point about service in a fast food place, it's like that old bumper sticker: **** happens. The difference is that there you can demand an on the spot explanation as to what went wrong. The dude you will speak to doesn't have a guy in a suit telling him his job will dissipate if he says the wrong thing.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:44 am

look they called it a 30 day exclusive I know tht is not what they meant but because they said tht alot of ppl got 20 dollar ps dollars, let me give u a better example u see a Dawnguard commercial for xbox and it said 30 day exclusive, tht is all it says dnt u see how misleading tht is even some moderators on this forum thought that it was suppose come after the xbox exclusive, Bethesda was a bit iffy on details tht is not anyones fault but theirs

"moderators on this forum thought" That's the key line in that statement right there moderators did what most people have done thought which is the same as assuming...now tell me does Bethesda control your mind no you do.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:57 am

Anyway , I'll summarize the situation of myself.

I'm going to buy Dawnguard , I love Skyrim and I love all TES games.
What made me angry is the all out Xbox love from the side of Bethesda , I mean just search their blog for 'Dawnguard'.
You get in every article " Xbox " " Xbox " " Xbox ".
I think the love should be spread to all the platforms even if the exclusivity is only for one.

Another think I want to say is , I see many people say Dawnguard will be shadowed by many soon games.
I really don't care about all of them and dislike many of them , I really wish to play only Skyrim ( And Dawnguard when it will be possible ).

Yehhh,now give me 5 :ahhh:

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:08 pm

I have a feeling that it will come out tomorrow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI6-JzxV-_M

Oh God, please don't.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:32 am

Again, you are totally missing the point. He was talking about entertainment in general. Going back to a point I made in my previous comment, what you deem unreasonable is subjective. It's your own personal definition of it. You obviously feel that the current situation has induced an unreasonable wait, and that is the basis of your argument.

no not at all I am fine with how Bethesda is handeling this situation and look every company has to have a standard if Dawnguard is released next year I am fine with tht as long as Bethesda communicates. games are different from food and I agree tht just waiting for a game or dlc does not warrant the right to complain in gaming industry delays happen all the time,but in food industry delays are not good, what Im trying to say is all companies should communicate and if I missread franks post then Im sry I thought he meant all gaming issues

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:44 am

Yehhh,now give me 5 :ahhh:

Truly ?

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:11 am

They should have just called it a Temporary 360 Exclusive. Not this 30 day thing. Less peeved people, and lower expectations.

Better it be a pleasant surprise, then a rude awakening. If you are going to be vague, at least get it right with being vague.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:31 pm

I think I have the logic. gamesas can′t announce anything until patch 1.7 goes live so.... if my logic is fine, as soon as the console manufacturers (PS3) gives the ok to Skyrim patch, Beth can announce Dawnguard.

But not until 1.7 is officially out.

Hope I′m right and DG is announced

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:15 pm

Yehhh,now give me 5 :ahhh:

Truly ?

Of course

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:20 am

I think I have the logic. gamesas can′t announce anything until patch 1.7 goes live so.... if my logic is fine, as soon as the console manufacturers (PS3) gives the ok to Skyrim patch, Beth can announce Dawnguard.

But not until 1.7 is officially out.

Hope I′m right and DG is announced :smile:

I'm currently installing 1.7

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:00 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI6-JzxV-_M

Oh God, please don't.

What relevance did that video have to my post?

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:19 pm

Everyone has the right to complain if there is a valid reason behind
But your point in my opinion its invalid unfortunately - on this forum i see gstaff -member of bethesda staff - that constantly communicate with forum members to resolve any possible issue in the best and fastest way

In your case you are referring a non- issue simply because they've never announced that dawnguard would have been out for ps3 and pc at "x " day/month/year or something similar.

And no,food isn't a commodity like games,you have made a terrible mistake comparing the two things - a primary need with an entertainment product

If you don't eat you die,if you don't play games ?

u missunderstand Im not targeting Bethesda they are communicating fine and food is a commodity to businesses, I am not comparing food and games I was just using an example for standards I know food industry standards are higher than games, just a missunderstanding really

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:10 am

no not at all I am fine with how Bethesda is handeling this situation and look every company has to have a standard if Dawnguard is released next year I am fine with tht as long as Bethesda communicates. games are different from food and I agree tht just waiting for a game or dlc does not warrant the right to complain in gaming industry delays happen all the time,but in food industry delays are not good, what Im trying to say is all companies should communicate and if I missread franks post then Im sry I thought he meant all gaming issues

They're communicating constantly with us - what you're asking for is communicate about something that isn't even out yet or planned to being shared- its impossible

One step at once,patch 1.7,verification from sony and then probably an announce with release date for ps3 and pc

I haven't misunderstood,just try to understand even my point

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:06 am

u missunderstand Im not targeting Bethesda they are communicating fine

Oh really?

then they are who im talking to I have been waiting 8 months for a patch that will let me play skyrim uniterupted crashes and other bugs keep hendering so I think if they continue to ignore us we should boycott them game devs themselves should just go work for a company that communicate and care about releasing patches instead of making money

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:22 pm

What relevance did that video have to my post?

My reaction to your naive hope.

Naive hope is what caused all of this.