[Steve Bates]

I hope everyone can be civil about this subject. While it's perfectly fine to have a negative opinion about the lack of a solid release date, you have to express them in a civil and mature way. We do not want to see immature hostile posts

Anyway, the only official word we have as of now, is from http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1398818-inquiries-re-dawnguard-release/. So unfortunately we have to wait until there is more information.

We have not announced release plans for Dawnguard on platforms other than Xbox 360 (available worldwide). As soon as there's any new information to share, we'll let everyone know.

Gstaff has also said he will have more information very soon.

That was the window for exclusivity, not an indication of when Dawnguard would be available on other platforms. The only date we set was for the Xbox 360 release.

I hope to provide more information in the very near future so you guys don't feel left in the dark. And sorry, there's only so many ways to say that without sounding like a broken record.

The 1.7 patch has been released for pc and should be going out to the console manufactures this week.


http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1399462-pcps3-release-date-thread-part-15/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1399556-pcps3-release-date-thread-part-16/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1399697-pcps3-release-date-thread-part-17/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1399808-pcps3-release-date-thread-part-18/

[kirsty williams]

One of the reasons for the anger being vented here is that Skyrim is a great game and Bethesda keeping us in the dark about a much wanted Dawnguard DLC is annoying to say the least. Respect for Bethesda as a customer friendly company is fading, even if most players (me included) will buy Dawnguard when it finally is available, and yes i do believe it will be.

Mind you - alienating customers with silence and vague comments can't be good for business, no matter how big your coffers are.

Also - If Bethesda wants Elder Scrolls Online to do better than say The Old Republic (bleeding badly and going F2P I hear), they do not need this much badwill among the PC-player base. Badwill is never easily erased.

C'mon already - lose the gag order. Let's hear something other than "info soon".

[megan gleeson]

To further make PC users think about if and when Dawnguard is being released for PC and PS3. In patch 1.6 a Dawnguard Quests Completed appeared in the quest log now in 1.7 it is gone. Just makes you wonder!

[Glu Glu]

wow 19 threds of ranting about no DG for pc and ps3....or no info for it...

[Katie Louise Ingram]

One of the reasons for the anger being vented here is that Skyrim is a great game and Bethesda keeping us in the dark about a much wanted Dawnguard DLC is annoying to say the least. Respect for Bethesda as a customer friendly company is fading, even if most players (me included) will buy Dawnguard when it finally is available, and yes i do believe it will be.

Mind you - alienating customers with silence and vague comments can't be good for business, no matter how big your coffers are.

Also - If Bethesda wants Elder Scrolls Online to do better than say The Old Republic (bleeding badly and going F2P I hear), they do not need this much badwill among the PC-player base. Badwill is never easily erased.

C'mon already - lose the gag order. Let's hear something other than "info soon".

Totaly agree if Bethesda want to have "positive karma" and fans of Elder scrolls saga to buy Elder Scrolls Online. They should not treat us like second category players - im ok with 30 days of exclusivity X360 but in 31 day Dawnguard shuld be released for PC/PS3. Remember Bethesda we are watching you. How you treat us and in future we will remember before we will buy any of your game.

PC user

[Lavender Brown]

What everyone is saying on this long forum is very sound opinion on most of you but... lets look at it on their perspective. They are trying their best to solve the situation on patching it to the ps3 and pc. Yes yes it might be a little easier because of the fact they patch it to 360 so pc should have had it by now i get that. But what if their was a problem with the patching codes for pc and ps3 and they don't know how long it will take. Maybe thats why were getting the sorry for inconvience but will have it out soon as possible remarks. Its understandable the consumers are thinking well we have the right to know because were buying this dlc from you. On that note i agree (BUT) Maybe just maybe their tired of the monkeys jumping on their backs about having it out by now and if they where to let it known that something is also wrong they will never hear the end of it. Sorry to pull out the monkey word its just for you to feel their understanding. im not choosing sides or anything just that their are probably doing their best and a little support wouldn't help right???

[Dean Brown]

What everyone is saying on this long forum is very sound opinion on most of you but... lets look at it on their perspective. They are trying their best to solve the situation on patching it to the ps3 and pc. Yes yes it might be a little easier because of the fact they patch it to 360 so pc should have had it by now i get that. But what if their was a problem with the patching codes for pc and ps3 and they don't know how long it will take. Maybe thats why were getting the sorry for inconvience but will have it out soon as possible remarks. Its understandable the consumers are thinking well we have the right to know because were buying this dlc from you. On that note i agree (BUT) Maybe just maybe their tired of the monkeys jumping on their backs about having it out by now and if they where to let it known that something is also wrong they will never hear the end of it. Sorry to pull out the monkey word its just for you to feel their understanding. im not choosing sides or anything just that their are probably doing their best and a little support wouldn't help right???

The files used for dawnguard on the xbox are different files used for pc and ps3 but all it takes is a conversion process which any normal computer would take forever to do.
Bethesda however has a special expensive computer that could do it in no time (a few hours or so ive been told.)

Type in convert and press enter (I realize its probley more steps than that).

[ladyflames]

Everyone threatening Bethesda and future sales cracks me up

TES games blow away any other game out there and always has and in five years if another elder scroll game is released
Those griping and threatening Bethesda will be standing in line waiting for a midnight release and griping because the guy in the front of the line gets its first

Bethesda may still have to wait to talk per contracts with Microsoft - none of us know? - and Bethesda will let everyone know eventually one way or another what is going on

[ezra]

The files used for dawnguard on the xbox are different files used for pc and ps3 but all it takes is a conversion process which any normal computer would take forever to do.
Bethesda however has a special expensive computer that could do it in no time (a few hours or so ive been told.)

Type in convert and press enter (I realize its probley more steps than that).

It could be simple yes but maybe it could not no one knows exactly how they do it im just saying all the hate is a bit one sided dont you think?

[Mariana]

It could be simple yes but maybe it could not no one knows exactly how they do it im just saying all the hate is a bit one sided dont you think?

It really is only a conversion process.

[Catherine N]

It really is only a conversion process.

actually do you know how hard it is to convert game data that was first made for 360 to any other firmware/game-system?

[Cody Banks]

Everyone threatening Bethesda and future sales cracks me up

TES games blow away any other game out there and always has and in five years if another elder scroll game is released
Those griping and threatening Bethesda will be standing in line waiting for a midnight release and griping because the guy in the front of the line gets its first

Bethesda may still have to wait to talk per contracts with Microsoft - none of us know? - and Bethesda will let everyone know eventually one way or another what is going on

You dont really seem to understand. They havent said they wont be playing the games. They've said they wont be paying for them. Theres a big difference.

[Georgine Lee]

actually do you know how hard it is to convert game data that was first made for 360 to any other firmware/game-system?

The 360 and PC versions are identical with the exception of the .dds files being .ddx files on the 360 and the .nifs being slightly different. Manually converting the .ddx to .dds would take ages for the public since there are so many, but bethesda obviously has the software to convert in batches since they created the file format. You can already take the 360 DLC file and load it up on the PC, but it'll crash when it tries to access the .ddx files.

[Jennifer Munroe]

You dont really seem to understand. They havent said they wont be playing the games. They've said they wont be paying for them. Theres a big difference.

Either you didn't read my post - did not understand my jest

Or you are suggesting piracy! Big no no!

Figure it out!

[kasia]

What everyone is saying on this long forum is very sound opinion on most of you but... lets look at it on their perspective. They are trying their best to solve the situation on patching it to the ps3 and pc. (...)their are probably doing their best and a little support wouldn't help right???

Right? I don't know, I sure would like to know, but there aren't any news about they having trouble or something, so we're speculating about their market strategy while they shut the doors in the community's face.

[James Hate]

I don't see what there is to convert, for the PC. Dawnguard, as well as Skyrim, is created on the PC. Dawnguard is nothing but a mod. It is originally a bsa and an esm file. These are the same format that will be use for the PC. There is nothing to convert.

However, it has to be converted to a file for the Xbox to use as well as the PS3, I forget the extensions. People convert save games from Xbox to PC and the back to Xbox all the time. They are the same files, just with different extensions.

It takes a second to hit "Save as" and... bam! New extension.

[phillip crookes]

I'm mainly curious if there are simply issues with releasing on the separate platforms. We never know what might have been the situation at Bethesda. Could have been rushing to release for X-Box and didn't have a lot of time to code for other platforms.

But a good question is; will this be a reoccurring thing for future DLC?
If so, there will be some problems, Bethesda.
We fans, as a whole, are not very patient.

[chinadoll]

I don't see what there is to convert, for the PC. Dawnguard, as well as Skyrim, is created on the PC. Dawnguard is nothing but a mod. It is originally a bsa and an esm file. These are the same format that will be use for the PC. There is nothing to convert.

However, it has to be converted to a file for the Xbox to use as well as the PS3, I forget the extensions. People convert save games from Xbox to PC and the back to Xbox all the time. They are the same files, just with different extensions.

It takes a second to hit "Save as" and... bam! New extension.

Don't you think that if it was that simple, pirates would have been playing it for over a month now? Yes, it's just a mod. However the resources it introduces are locked up in .ddx format, which the PC version of Skyrim can't read unless converted into .dds format as I explained above.

[daniel royle]

Don't you think that if it was that simple, pirates would have been playing it for over a month now? Yes, it's just a mod. However the resources it introduces are locked up in .ddx format, which PCs can't read unless converted into .dds format as I explained above.

ok...

[Matt Bigelow]

What everyone is saying on this long forum is very sound opinion on most of you but... lets look at it on their perspective. They are trying their best to solve the situation on patching it to the ps3 and pc. Yes yes it might be a little easier because of the fact they patch it to 360 so pc should have had it by now i get that. But what if their was a problem with the patching codes for pc and ps3 and they don't know how long it will take. Maybe thats why were getting the sorry for inconvience but will have it out soon as possible remarks. Its understandable the consumers are thinking well we have the right to know because were buying this dlc from you. On that note i agree (BUT) Maybe just maybe their tired of the monkeys jumping on their backs about having it out by now and if they where to let it known that something is also wrong they will never hear the end of it. Sorry to pull out the monkey word its just for you to feel their understanding. im not choosing sides or anything just that their are probably doing their best and a little support wouldn't help right???

Or maybe, just maybe, the random vampire attacks are affecting Bethesda itself, and by now, the game development studio resembles a ghost town!
And a vampire disguised as a traveler is visiting the PR department's homes at might, preventing them from sleeping; and the sleep deprivation is preventing them to perform a proper comunication...
How's that for a plausible excuse to explain things?!

[Sheeva]

actually do you know how hard it is to convert game data that was first made for 360 to any other firmware/game-system?

I'm pretty sure Bethesda develops their content for all platforms simultaneously. We have a lot of insight into the way they develop things since they've been nice enough to give us access to their development tools, and while I understand very little about it, people who do tell me there shouldn't be much trouble at all making the Dawnguard content for other platforms.

[Hilm Music]

Or maybe, just maybe, the random vampire attacks are affecting Bethesda itself, and by now, the game development studio resembles a ghost town!
And a vampire disguised as a traveler is visiting the PR department's homes at might, preventing them from sleeping; and the sleep deprivation is preventing them to perform a proper comunication...
How's that for a plausible excuse to explain things?!

I've been playing with Dawnguard installed for about 80+ hours and I finally saw a vampire attack for the first time today.

[brian adkins]

Everyone threatening Bethesda and future sales cracks me up

TES games blow away any other game out there and always has and in five years if another elder scroll game is released
Those griping and threatening Bethesda will be standing in line waiting for a midnight release and griping because the guy in the front of the line gets its first

Bethesda may still have to wait to talk per contracts with Microsoft - none of us know? - and Bethesda will let everyone know eventually one way or another what is going on

You, Sire, are righter than right:
Bethesda is too big to fail, and all gamers are bound to give out our hard earned cash money to support them, no matter what.

[Brentleah Jeffs]

wow 19 threds of ranting about no DG for pc and ps3....or no info for it...

Might be able to hit 50 if we're lucky.

[Emmanuel Morales]

I've been playing with Dawnguard installed for about 80+ hours and I finally saw a vampire attack for the first time today.

Yes, but Bethesda is the source of the vampires (the motherload).
(Molag Bal is manufacturing the vampires in Bethesda's basemant)