PCPS3 Release Date Thread part 20 : V - Skyrim

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:20 pm

I quit playing Skyrim about 2 months ago. I probably would have started a new game for Dawnguard; but didn't see a point, since most of us guessed this would happen.

Exclusives are the biggest slap in the face a company can give to it's audience; and stuff like this is the clear evidence of that.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:06 am

I quit playing Skyrim about 2 months ago. I probably would have started a new game for Dawnguard; but didn't see a point, since most of us guessed this would happen.

Exclusives are the biggest slap in the face a company can give to it's audience; and stuff like this is the clear evidence of that.

Same sentiment. I don't remember the last time I played Skyrim.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:06 pm

You must enjoy pretending that Xbox and PC players don't get exclusive content and that the PS3 gets nothing but a broken half-game.

Yeah, good one. The problem with your argument is that several times now, i've acknowledged the fact that the PS3 owners got screwed over. Im going to quote a post of mine that I made in the original 'Will you be buying Dawnguard when it comes out?' thread on the 30th July 2012 at 07:08PM;

It was 30 days. 30 days where Bethesda were not allowed to release it for any platform other than Xbox 360, now they can and will release it in due time because the period is over. In my eyes the only people with a valid cause for frustration are the poor sods who bought this game on PS3.

Can you give me an example other than Kinect, of exclusive content that only the PS3 doesn't get? Because there is none. You're getting the patch. You're getting the DLC.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:18 am

How about game fixes that work and various PC exclusivity that don't apply to consoles in the first place?

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:50 am

and this what starts wars RIGHT HERE , -__-

It's true though. It could barely run the game, even Bethesda admitted they knew that - which is something they should be ashamed of.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:12 pm

And besides which, one is more than enough. I paid as much as any Xbox player, perhaps more so. There is no valid argument against the claim I and many others have made: the PS3 has gotten unfairly stiffed and the behavior persists.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:59 am

How about game fixes that work and various PC exclusivity that don't apply to consoles in the first place?

Examples? A couple of patches on the PC broke my Skyrim, and I had to reinstall the game and validate the game's cache just to get 1.7 to stop screwing my game up. And what about 'various PC exclusivity?' You mean mods? There are a plethora of reasons why current gen consoles having access to developer tools like the Creation kit in order to mod the game will not happen and will not work.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:30 pm

I'm a PC gamer but I think PS3 gamers should get Dawnguard for free as an apology for the crappy treatment.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:45 pm

Nothing is free

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:29 am

You know what, as a PC gamer, how is it even possible that this game runs on a Microsoft OS yet is not included in the Microsoft timed exclusive?

Ask Microsoft that, they paid for it to be exclusive on the Xbox.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:07 am

Examples? A couple of patches on the PC broke my Skyrim, and I had to reinstall the game and validate the game's cache just to get 1.7 to stop screwing my game up. And what about 'various PC exclusivity?' You mean mods? There are a plethora of reasons why current gen consoles having access to developer tools like the Creation kit in order to mod the game will not happen and will not work.

Now you're just trying to antagonize me. I've already made my damn point well after many others have said the same thing: there exists content for both other systems that can but does not exist for the PS3. Do everyone a favor and quit posting if all you're going to be doing is instigating fights and trying to convince people that just because they "will" (read: may; the official word is that there is no official word on the release of Dawnguard, in case you missed the OP on the last nineteen threads) get Dawnguard that they should be satisfied with having a lesser game for an equivalent price.

People like you are why I no longer frequent the forums. You wouldn't have invalid opinions if your judgement wasn't clouded by your privilege. And yes, before any fool claims otherwise, an opinion is perfectly capable of being wrong: it is wrong (as in both factually incorrect and morally abhorrent) to be of the opinion that others ought not have negative opinions or complaints about a product, for instance; wrong opinions, in case someone needs reference, are most easily recognized in opinions of bigotry (one color of people is better/worse, one demographic of consumers deserves more/less, etc.).

Anyway, this is my final post in this thread and probably my last post today. I can see that this series of threads contains a lot of conflict rooted in the thinly-veiled console bashing that much of these posts are awash with. I'm here to give my opinions and complaints on Bethesda's public forum to add one more voice to the roar of dissatisfaction; I'm not here to entertain challenges to defend why I think (read: know) that PS3 players (and in the case of Dawnguard, PC players as well) are getting stiffed by Bethesda. Any person who feels the need to challenge that claim is either very misinformed or an elitist/troll.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:16 pm

The world is full of injustices my friends...i wanted uncharted for months and the only way to obtain it was buying a ps3

If you're incapable to wait a month or two to play dawnguard you could do the same,with the difference that you can be sure to have it anyway soon or late - even for your platform

We are all aware before launch that the first two dlcs would have been xbox timed exclusive,so i've chosen to buy it for pc and xbox too
and i'm also pissed off for that because i largely prefer pc to play but due to the exclusive i'm forced to give priority to a console with evidents technical limits other than wasting money

Its called freedom of choice in a free market,don't blame bethesda for that - how many of us are capable to refuse a lot of money if offered ? Its not fair perhaps,but acceptable considering that at the end all could play the dlcs

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:41 am

It's true though. It could barely run the game, even Bethesda admitted they knew that - which is something they should be ashamed of.

Lulz, Bethesda had plenty of time to learn how to code for the PS3, they chose not to and instead copy and pasted.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:13 pm

Dark Souls will be release for PC this month and I have to say that it seems a best decision buy it for $39 than pay $20 (if this is actually the PC price) for Dawnguard.

Bethesda drop the ball delaying so much this DLC and now will have to compete with dark souls, darksiders 2 and even Dishonored (some plp that would bought both games now will have to choose between the 2).

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:45 am

Dark Souls will be release for PC this month and I have to say that it seems a best decision buy it for $39 than pay $20 (if this is actually the PC price) for Dawnguard.

Bethesda drop the ball delaying so much this DLC and now will have to compete with dark souls, darksiders 2 and even Dishonored (some plp that would bought both games now will have now to choose between the 2).

First rule of Dark Souls, Prepare to die...ALOT, I own it onPS3 ((I use to own Demon souls )) and they really amped up everything in that game.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:39 pm

*snip*

Irony.

How? I've already said that Im aware the PS3 users are getting screwed, now you're just making up nonsense. Your entire comment is pretty much based on something I haven't said nor implied. Where are you getting this from? Did you ignore my last comment (and several before that) completely? Im not being hostile, im just pushing for answers, you're not giving me any examples, you're just saying that it exists. Maybe if you provided actual examples then I could understand where you are coming from, you're not even giving me this chance. Instead, you call me privileged and go on an unrelated rant. Also, just because there has not been an official announcement does not make the fact that 1.6 includes Dawnguard files and that 1.7 includes DG fixes for all platforms etc redundant. This is all a matter of perspective, not everyone shares your opinions, not everyone shares mine. You can't honestly say you come here expecting otherwise. You just claim that you're right and that anyone who has a different opinion is a troll or an elitist.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:22 pm

So when is bethesda speaking today, I would really like to know when our 365 day exclusive is up.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:42 pm

For Bethesda's sake, I just hope it was a handsome sum of money as they have created quite a bit of distance between themselves and many PC/PS3 fans. (myself included) I have always been a huge follower/supporter of Bethesda and wish I could trantrum and say that I wont be buying anymore of their products, but that is not the case. That being said, their games have fallen down my priority list as I as a PC gamer have fallen down theirs. Now Dawnguard will be competing with my top priority games Borderlands 2 and Xcom among others. May end up passing on Dawnguard altogether.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:54 pm

Lulz, Bethesda had plenty of time to learn how to code for the PS3, they chose not to and instead copy and pasted.

Debatable. I still think, along with many others, that this is a hardware issue. Hell, Bethesda outright said that.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:27 pm

Debatable. I still think, along with many others, that this is a hardware issue. Hell, Bethesda outright said that.

Source to where bethesda outright said that.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:46 am

Debatable. I still think, along with many others, that this is a hardware issue. Hell, Bethesda outright said that.

They also said that the two versions had achieved a level of parity. Obviously that wasn't the case.

Also, it isn't so much of a hardware issue as it is not tackling the hardware appropriately. I'm not tech savvy, but I hear the architecture of the consoles are very different from one another. Skyrim was ported over to the PS3 without them doing significant overhaul to ensure it would run properly. This is akin to taking a locomotive and placing it on the interstate, and expecting it to run just as well as it would if it was on the tracks it was designed for.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:26 am

I'm actually starting to get impatient (ps3 owner)

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:25 am

A couple of you are turning this into a personal battle - take it to PM please.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:25 pm

But even for ps3, it is gonna be a competition, for example,i love skyrim but armored kill is coming out, also newer games like medal of honor warfighter and others are here soon. Hurry!!!

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:38 am

They also said that the two versions had achieved a level of parity. Obviously that wasn't the case.

Also, it isn't so much of a hardware issue as it is not tackling the hardware appropriately. I'm not tech savvy, but I hear the architecture of the consoles are very different from one another. Skyrim was ported over to the PS3 without them doing significant overhaul to ensure it would run properly. This is akin to taking a locomotive and placing it on the interstate, and expecting it to run just as well as it would if it was on the tracks it was designed for.

This. I can't believe a person is capable of thinking otherwise; there are enough multiplatform games (and throughout history, not even just in this generation) to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that any developer is perfectly capable of delivering exactly the same product across the board as long as the freaking work ethic to do it. I, for one, am looking forward to Transformers: Fall of Cybertron, and the only reason I'd even consider buying it on another console is if I happen to purchase another console, not because the game is going to be superior or inferior in one respect or another. Obviously, Bethesda does not employ people with good work ethic or does not allow good work ethic.