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[electro_fantics]

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Very nice, I remember back before Mass Effect 2 when I was doing a run-through I got Wrex just before Virmire just so I could kill him. Taking things a little more seriously now, Role-Playing wise; I'm curious as to what happens in regard to Wrex in the later games if he was never recruited in ME1.

I've seen the dialouge with the Prothean, he looks really cool. I think you'd said that you'd prefer the Ilos statues as the Protheans but I think Javik looks much better.

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I've grown fond of Javik now that I've done some traveling with him. At first I was very skeptical - I strongly hate all pseudo-Samurai crap in Western Media - so I had some prejudice built up.
He is actually pretty cool, now that I know him better. He makes a good partner for Liara in missions involving Prothean tech. Plus, his gun guts down the toughest creatures in a few seconds.
I do prefer the tenctacle heads though, but I'm content with the Retcon that they were actually the Protheans' predecessors the... I forgot their name but they are to Protheans what Protheans are to modern Council species.

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At what point did that happen? I'm on my way to Sanctuary and that hasn't happened with Wreav yet. I guess he won't notice :shrug; A Shame really, i wanted to shoot him

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When you leave Citadel after receiving objective to go to Thessia. When you exit to Normandy, guess who is waitiiiing

SHEPARD. I KNOW WHAT YOU DID SHEPPAAAAARD!

P.S. getting his family armor in ME1 has no impact. Shepard will try to convince Wrex by reminding him of it but Wrex shrugs it off as "words don't cut it anymore". There is Renegade/Paragon options but they don't help.

[mollypop]

Do they ever go into more detail on the actual nations of the Earth or is everything just the Systems Alliance?

[m Gardner]

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I've grown fond of Javik now that I've done some traveling with him. At first I was very skeptical - I strongly hate all pseudo-Samurai crap in Western Media - so I had some prejudice built up.
He is actually pretty cool, now that I know him better. He makes a good partner for Liara in missions involving Prothean tech. Plus, his gun guts down the toughest creatures in a few seconds.
I do prefer the tenctacle heads though, but I'm content with the Retcon that they were actually the Protheans' predecessors the... I forgot their name but they are to Protheans what Protheans are to modern Council species.

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When you leave Citadel after receiving objective to go to Thessia. When you exit to Normandy, guess who is waitiiiing

SHEPARD. I KNOW WHAT YOU DID SHEPPAAAAARD!

P.S. getting his family armor in ME1 has no impact. Shepard will try to convince Wrex by reminding him of it but Wrex shrugs it off as "words don't cut it anymore". There is Renegade/Paragon options but they don't help.

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If someone had just condemned my race to extinction, I would be pretty ticked too.

[Jade Payton]

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If someone had just condemned my race to extinction, I would be pretty ticked too.

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Is it really extinction? In Mass Effect 2 it's supposed to just stablise the population at "pre-industrial" levels.

[Genevieve]

Do they ever go into more detail on the actual nations of the Earth or is everything just the Systems Alliance?

What you see in ME3 is about all you ever see or get of earth its mostly data about the systems alliance, even in the codex ingame.

[Tai Scott]

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Is it really extinction? In Mass Effect 2 it's supposed to just stablise the population at "pre-industrial" levels.

The way the Krogan are fighting each other how long can they really last with a severely stunted birth rate?

[Russell Davies]

What you see in ME3 is about all you ever see or get of earth its mostly data about the systems alliance, even in the codex ingame.

That blows, I thought it would be a great opportuinty for infomation on the UK.

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At least the Houses of Parliment survive

The way the Krogan are fighting each other how long can they really last with a severely stunted birth rate?

That's their own damn fault, them and their stupid warrior culture [censored] that destroyed their home-planet. Krogan's are pathetic.

[Aaron Clark]

That blows, I thought it would be a great opportuinty for infomation on the UK.

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At least the Houses of Parliment survive

That's their own damn fault, them and their stupid warrior culture [censored] that destroyed their home-planet. Krogan's are pathetic.

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Yet I think Wrex and Eve will change that. Not to mention the gratitude of the Turians for their help against the Reapers. I think given a second chance, Wrex and Eve would not squander it

[Stephanie Nieves]

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Yet I think Wrex and Eve will change that. Not to mention the gratitude of the Turians for their help against the Reapers. I think given a second chance, Wrex and Eve would not squander it

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I wouldn't count on them that much. We take that risk with the Krogan and it's the whole Galaxy's ass on the line if the Krogan get wild again. As Enclave said Genophage is to return Krogan population to pre-industrial levels if they can't handle that then they don't deserve a cure.

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Damn, Kal'Reegar has died on Palaven. And I went through all the trouble to save him from the Colossus. A fine man, that one

War assets at 4,500. I'm beginning to think that it's enough. I'll probably have around 6,000 by the time I finish the game.

[Angel Torres]

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Yet I think Wrex and Eve will change that. Not to mention the gratitude of the Turians for their help against the Reapers. I think given a second chance, Wrex and Eve would not squander it

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Yeah, they may change it. Atleast they deserve a chance. But Wreav alone? No [censored] way.

[lauraa]

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Yet I think Wrex and Eve will change that. Not to mention the gratitude of the Turians for their help against the Reapers. I think given a second chance, Wrex and Eve would not squander it

I'll admit that I haven't played ME3 yet but I can't imagine any amount of charisma from two Krogan's would end centuries of clan warfare. The Krogan's turned their world into a wasteland, were elevated by the Salarians - true for non-altruistic reasons - into the galatic community and started invading other species colonies and planets. They've had enough chances IMO.

[Pawel Platek]

I'll admit that I haven't played ME3 yet but I can't imagine any amount of charisma from two Krogan's would end centuries of clan warfare. The Krogan's turned their world into a wasteland, were elevated by the Salarians - true for non-altruistic reasons - into the galatic community and started invading other species colonies and planets. They've had enough chances IMO.

In game it shows that the Krogan weren't all herp a derp. Once upon a time they had art, science, and literature like any species. It's been a trial, but I think Krogan have finally learned how to work together and not just with themselves. On a wider scale with all of the species. Though only time will tell.

[Farrah Barry]

In game it shows that the Krogan weren't all herp a derp. Once upon a time they had art, science, and literature like any species.

That was like two-millenia ago though right - damn Bioware are in Bethesda territory with still depicting Tuchanka as a wasteland. Now they have devolved into border-line barbarism and macho [censored], the majority anyway. Wrex says at one point, "to thank us for wiping out the rachni they neutered us all." Yeah it wasn't like the Krogan started annexing other species world's even after the Council had given them new ones as compensation for their efforts in the Rachni wars, they invaded other council species colonies.

[alyssa ALYSSA]

In game it shows that the Krogan weren't all herp a derp. Once upon a time they had art, science, and literature like any species. It's been a trial, but I think Krogan have finally learned how to work together and not just with themselves. On a wider scale with all of the species. Though only time will tell.

Didn't the Krogan manage to nuke themselves, was that before or after Salarian intervention? I think that was before. It would explain why the ancient goodies were forgotten.

[Esther Fernandez]

Didn't the Krogan manage to nuke themselves, was that before or after Salarian intervention? I think that was before. It would explain why the ancient goodies were forgotten.

they did, and it was before the salarians uplifted them.

[Lyndsey Bird]

they did, and it was before the salarians uplifted them.

Which only serves to prove that the Krogan are incapable of containing themselves no matter what cures we give them.


I say play it safe and keep the bastards down. The war can be won without the Krogan and the Krogan have so far contributed none to the Galactic community. Only war, hate and violence.

[jeremey wisor]

Which only serves to prove that the Krogan are incapable of containing themselves no matter what cures we give them.


I say play it safe and keep the bastards down. The war can be won without the Krogan and the Krogan have so far contributed none to the Galactic community. Only war, hate and violence.

Rachni... almost wiped out everything. Krogan saved the counsel races form them. I would say that's a pretty big contribution. Also you forget the Krogan fighting in the Rachni wars were basically barbarians. Lifted from their world to go and fight Rachni. Then they get all of this space technology. Naturally without the right social law and training [censored] is going to happen. Now however over the course of two games we see Wrex unifying them and teaching them. Living with the genophage has taught them how to work together better. If you forget humanity has come just as close to the Krogans at wiping themselves out. It's the difference between the push of a single button. And who says a new genophage can't be introduced if they do get out of hand? All of Mordin's work is there waiting to be utilized if the need comes to that. Wiping out a species which has proven valuable at fighting in extreme combat situations and toxic environments without specialized equipment is too much to pass up. Not to mention the loss of diversity is bad for the galaxy as a whole. Not to mention the moral problems when we decide to kill someone off because we don't like them, seems a lot like the Krogan your going to destroy. I could go on. Decision like that isn't good.

Three different times in history and three very different generations of Krogan. This new generation has the wits to survive as a part of the larger whole. It's like comparing the Aztecs to modern day man. It was perfectly acceptable to behead and sacrifice people for their gods all the time. Now not so much.

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I find it cheating to look at the metagame. I went in assuming that I would need the absolute best of everyone and everything to fight the Reapers. Knowing you can sacrifice some people and get away with the "good" ending bothers me. We should be discussing this like each and every point of war asset matters. Which is how we went in originally thinking. Because then we could justify killing off things we don't like because we have some "wiggle room". It's just a tad silly is all.

[Shannon Marie Jones]

War assets at 4,500. I'm beginning to think that it's enough. I'll probably have around 6,000 by the time I finish the game.

I think it peaks out at 5000, basically 5000 is the listed limit in the hint book.

[Angelina Mayo]

Traynor just said "svck it up, princess" to my femshep. Atleast they can laugh at themselves Or perhaps at some of their forum posters

[kat no x]

I think it peaks out at 5000, basically 5000 is the listed limit in the hint book.

I got over 5000 ems with 78% readiness

[Victoria Bartel]

I dont think its a cap, but its the peak number you need to get the last ending option.

[Catharine Krupinski]

I dont think its a cap, but its the peak number you need to get the last ending option.

4800 and 96%, I hope I get the best ending.

I should have known that it really was no turn back when they said it was no turn back
Missed a stack of small fetch quests but I never got around doing them due to the abysmal journal system.

Did do all quests marked on the galaxy map though.


I hope this is enough.
Oh well it seems I will have to wait for Mass Effect 3: Broken Steel anyway. I just hope that the best ending, which I hopefully get, is not as abominable as I think.

[Claire]

So how many war assets does everyone have? I just finished the Thessia mission and my total strength (not effective strength) is currently 6541.

So far most of my decisions in ME3 and previous games look like they were the most effective ones for gathering the most assets, so that's pretty cool.

[Batricia Alele]

So how many war assets does everyone have? I just finished the Thessia mission and my total strength (not effective strength) is currently 6541.

So far most of my decisions in ME3 and previous games look like they were the most effective ones for gathering the most assets, so that's pretty cool.

Thats about what I had, then I did about 2 hours of multiplayer to get the ems over 5000.
and yeah, imported save games that have gone all the way from ME1 definitely have an advantage in war assets