PC & PS3 Release Date [merged topics]

Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:29 am

Caps won't get your point across better.

Looking at this thread, you are right. Probably should start drawing pictures for apologists like you.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:44 pm

How many XBox exclusives? Is it three or is it endless? Remember Bethesda it was the PC platform that gives you the most business not XBox. As for PS3 you might as well write that off for your lack of new content and if you even do get it to work something tells me that nobody will buy it. Now you do it again. I really hope that this is the last XBOX exclusive because I am really sick of this [censored]. Also this new content for PC and PS3 (Don't hold hope high) better be Dragonborn and nothing else but Dragornborn. If you give us [censored] that is not as good or better than Dragornborn then watch your sales go into the tank. Time to treat your other fan base better or you will just lose them forever. Well after all then you will just have your precious XBOX fan base. One step closer of writing you off just like I wrote off EA.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:37 pm

Remember Bethesda it was the PC platform that gives you the most business not XBox.

Meh, people will start arguing that this is sound business practice by Bethesda because the XBawks is their primary market nowadays. I took the liberty to brush up some infographics about that (I svck with diagrams, sorry).

http://i46.tinypic.com/260ppwx.png
http://i46.tinypic.com/imqmv5.png

Basically shows that Xbox gaming means US gaming. Also might explain why I, as a German customer, am especially pissed off by this favoritism. I call it the Central-European-Gaming-Anomaly.
Plus, digital sales are not included, at all. Personally I don't know anyone who bought a retail copy of Skyrim, but I don't have a global, objective estimate of digital sales either.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:54 pm

Meh, people will start arguing that this is sound business practice by Bethesda because the XBawks is their primary market nowadays. I took the liberty to brush up some infographics about that (I svck with diagrams, sorry).

http://i46.tinypic.com/260ppwx.png
http://i46.tinypic.com/imqmv5.png

Basically shows that Xbox gaming means US gaming. Also might explain why I, as a German customer, am especially pissed off by this favoritism. I call it the Central-European-Gaming-Anomaly.
Plus, digital sales are not included, at all. Personally I don't know anyone who bought a retail copy of Skyrim, but I don't have a global, objective estimate of digital sales either.
Digital sales take up a good chunk of the PC market. Skyrim remained in Steam top sellers list for quite a while.
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:49 am

Digital sales take up a good chunk of the PC market. Skyrim remained in Steam top sellers list for quite a while.

And once had more than 5 million people playing it at the same time. And no, pirate copies can't use Steam, so they aren't counted in that number ;)
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:44 pm

And once had more than 5 million people playing it at the same time. And no, pirate copies can't use Steam, so they aren't counted in that number :wink:
I don't think it was ever that high. The highest number I find a source for is 280k players shortly after release.
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:27 am

I would wager Skyrim sold at least as many digital PC as retail PC. The numbers aren't exactly crippling in favor of the 360- it's a pretty even split, if you take that into account.
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:05 am

Looking at this thread, you are right. Probably should start drawing pictures for apologists like you.

Well, you'd better ready your crayons then..

I'm on nobodies' side here though. I'm just not angry about it, and I was hoping to make more people less angry. A 30 day delay for the pc and ps3 is really not a big deal. At least you'll get the content.
How'd you feel if there was an all time xbox360 exclusive dlc? I know I would be pissed off beyond being pissed off. But this is only 30 days. 30 days!
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:51 pm

I don't think it was ever that high. The highest number I find a source for is 280k players shortly after release.

Ah, it was 5 million concurrent Steam users, not only Skyrim players :blush:
(http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-01-04-steam-shoots-over-5-million-concurrent-users-mark)
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:26 am

Well, you'd better ready your crayons then..

I'm on nobodies' side here though. I'm just not angry about it, and I was hoping to make more people less angry. A 30 day delay for the pc and ps3 is really not a big deal. At least you'll get the content.
How'd you feel if there was an all time xbox360 exclusive dlc? I know I would be pissed off beyond being pissed off. But this is only 30 days. 30 days!
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:17 pm

Well, you'd better ready your crayons then..

I'm on nobodies' side here though. I'm just not angry about it, and I was hoping to make more people less angry. A 30 day delay for the pc and ps3 is really not a big deal. At least you'll get the content.
How'd you feel if there was an all time xbox360 exclusive dlc? I know I would be pissed off beyond being pissed off. But this is only 30 days. 30 days!

I'd like to know where you're getting the "30 days" number from; all I've seen mentioned is "early 2013," which is so vague that it's just about meaningless.
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:25 am

Just wanted to chime in and say a nice big [censored] You to Bethesda and Microsoft for not saying this untill yesterday, did they not know or are they just trolling us? Seriously I got all excited for this [censored], only to realize I have to wait another month. Well now I will be avoiding the forums and wiki for fear of spoilers. [censored]!
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:09 pm

And once had more than 5 million people playing it at the same time. And no, pirate copies can't use Steam, so they aren't counted in that number :wink:
I don't think it was ever that high. The highest number I find a source for is 280k players shortly after release.
Yes 280K was maximum, no other game has reached this high.

Think the difference with central Europe has lot to do with people going from home computers to amiga then to pc.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:35 pm

Digital sales take up a good chunk of the PC market. Skyrim remained in Steam top sellers list for quite a while.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2011/12/16/skyrim-is-the-fastest-selling-game-in-steam-history

That combined with a history of NPD and VGC (lol, VGChartz ...) massively underbilling PC sales figures due to missing Steam / other DD date (and incompetence or corruption in VGC's case) tells me there's something we're not quite seeing here. Portal 2 sold more copies than either console version, and VGC has 0.61M PC versus 1.55M 360. Crysis sold "over 3 million" copies, yet VGC has only 0.68M. I wonder how much Portal really sold given that it's a Valve game and PC gamers buy the [censored] out of Valve and Blizzard (10M sales D3 as a PC exclusive) games ... If Crysis 1 which basically no system could max for over a year can sell 3 million copies on PC, how much did the highly anticipated Valve game really sell? We already know Portal 2 sold at least a million Steam copies to account for the gap with the 360 version. How many more?

Since Skyrim is the fastest selling Steam game of all time, I'd bet PC sales at minimum are literally double what's listed, which would put it above the sales of the PS3 version. Combine this with how quickly Beth's attitude about PC in press releases turned around post-release "we're doing this as a courtesy" and "it's tradition for us to release tools so we will continue it" almost instantly became "fastest selling Steam game ever!", "We're doing something extra special (official HD texture pack) for you guys when we release the CK! Also we're partnering with Valve to add a centralized mod hosting service!", and http://www.joystiq.com/2012/02/08/todd-howard-over-10-million-skyrim-players-average-pc-time-75/

Wait, what? Many million!? B-b-but Skyrim sold less than half of the 360 version's copies! PC gaming is dead you entitled, whiny pirate scum! Bethesda are doing you a favor by releasing on PC at all! You don't have the right to complain about anything!!!11!!!one!!! PC is for spreadsheets and farmville :smile:. So. How many million is "many million" anyway? I can tell you right now it's not 2.5. Given that other games (I've listed two already) literally have 75% of their sales missing from VGC (smaller gap on NPD, since they're more professional), I'd be very, very interested to know just how many millions of PC copies sold is "many million" to Bethesda. In any case, the absolute minimum of extra copies Skyrim sold on Steam is 1 million. It literally cannot be lower than that because of Portal 2's "Steam gap" in its sales statistics. Portal 2's peak user counthttp://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1650947 http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=451769

The given sales breakdown for Skyrim, bearing in mind that this data source is literally worth less than used toilet paper for PC sales figures (less than a million Crysis sales versus "over 3 million" direct from Crytek), is:
X360: 6.5
PS3: 4.24
PC: 2.55, but at the very least 3.55 in reality

Yeah, 2.55 sure is "many million" and enough for Bethesda to do a complete 360 on their attitude about the PC version. PC gaming confirmed dead. While we're at it, Xbox 3 will be 5x as powerful as even the most expensive PCs and PS4 will be 7x as powerful but expensive and hard to develop for. Durango has 64GB of RAM and a 16 core processor lelelelelele PC is finished!
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:38 pm

snip

Looks like you're just overjoyed at the prospect of PC gaming being "dead," and as far as you're concerned, the sooner PC players all just go away the better. Yet I see links to PC mods in your signature, which I presume you're taking credit for making. If the PC is such a dead platform good for only "spreadsheets and Farmville," why are you wasting your time making Skyrim mods for it? :shrug: Are you hacking your precious XBox to use them on that, and then calling the rest of us "entitled whiny pirate scum?"
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:47 pm

Look at the console audience, most are casuals, who will buy everything "cool" they are thrown at. They are the reason for this, and for the poor quality of nowadays games. But it won't stay like that forever.
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:57 am

Looks like you're just overjoyed at the prospect of PC gaming being "dead," and as far as you're concerned, the sooner PC players all just go away the better. Yet I see links to PC mods in your signature, which I presume you're taking credit for making. If the PC is such a dead platform good for only "spreadsheets and Farmville," why are you wasting your time making Skyrim mods for it? :shrug: Are you hacking your precious XBox to use them on that, and then calling the rest of us "entitled whiny pirate scum?"

Yeah. The ENB screenshots I have are totally taken on 360. Ignore the 1080P.

Adjust your sarcasm meter, come on :).
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:48 am

Yeah, 2.55 sure is "many million" and enough for Bethesda to do a complete 360 on their attitude about the PC version. PC gaming confirmed dead. While we're at it, Xbox 3 will be 5x as powerful as even the most expensive PCs and PS4 will be 7x as powerful but expensive and hard to develop for. Durango has 64GB of RAM and a 16 core processor lelelelelele PC is finished!

5x / 7x as powerful... wow this statement here nominate you in my personal hit list of fail posts 2012.
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:11 am

PC gaming confirmed dead. While we're at it, Xbox 3 will be 5x as powerful as even the most expensive PCs and PS4 will be 7x as powerful but expensive and hard to develop for. Durango has 64GB of RAM and a 16 core processor lelelelelele PC is finished!

:rofl: no seriously :rofl: then again nop :rofl:
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:55 pm

Looks like you're just overjoyed at the prospect of PC gaming being "dead," and as far as you're concerned, the sooner PC players all just go away the better. Yet I see links to PC mods in your signature, which I presume you're taking credit for making. If the PC is such a dead platform good for only "spreadsheets and Farmville," why are you wasting your time making Skyrim mods for it? :shrug: Are you hacking your precious XBox to use them on that, and then calling the rest of us "entitled whiny pirate scum?"

:facepalm:

You fail at sarcasm.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:32 pm

5x / 7x as powerful... wow this statement here nominate you in my personal hit list of fail posts 2012.

I think he was being sarcastic... well, I hope so.
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:18 am

Yeah. The ENB screenshots I have are totally taken on 360. Ignore the 1080P.

Adjust your sarcasm meter, come on :smile:.

The more I looked at, the more I thought it might be sarcasm, but it didn't come across as such on first read. Should have had that second cup of coffee before posting, I guess.

Well played. :biggrin:
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:07 am


I detect sarcasm.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:45 pm

Ups before i forget Dragonborn DLC coming for PC and PS3 on 04.01.2013 :biggrin:
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:00 pm

The given sales breakdown for Skyrim, bearing in mind that this data source is literally worth less than used toilet paper for PC sales figures (less than a million Crysis sales versus "over 3 million" direct from Crytek), is:
X360: 6.5
PS3: 4.24
PC: 2.55, but at the very least 3.55 in reality

I really wouldn't be surprised if Skyrim sold 6+ million PC copies total. But the problem is, without any official numbers, we have no leverage when discussing this issue with Bethesda. Even before release, Pete Hines said that PC sales only made up about 10% of their market, which is clearly wrong, but we would need hard numbers to make our case. :(
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