Myth?

Last time i checked, all multi-platform console games are pretty much Xbox 360 prefered because they just flat out run better then their PS3 counter-parts (this is fact) Now PS 3 exclusives are great, but Multi-Plats are Xbox 360 area all day long and twice on sundays.

Also its not debunked, they may have learned how to code on the PS3 to "get by" so to speak, but Multi-platform games show the Xbox has far more optimizations. It is what it is....If Sony had it to do over, I bet they would have made better hardware decisions. the PS3 is the Windows Vista of Consoles.

Bethesda wasn't happy with it on the PS3 so it's been delayed.

And spare me the gabe newell speech. The guy says all that and then his company releases console exclusive steamworks content for Portal 2 on PS3. Gabe's lost touch with reality.

Alright.....can we push past the PS3 hardware already we get thanks.......thier no point in debateing or whatever you want to call it over it, let just move on to other things.

I see the post. Well that's unfortunate. But hey at least there might be one teeny-tiny chance that the DLC will run more smoothly since they are taking their precious time. Note I said teeny-tiny chance.

Very :/ I was hoping for Patch 1.7 to be up on PSN server as well but it wasn't submitted yet, then this news just put an arrow in my knee, chest, and left arm. I was looking forward to a release date.

The best part is when they make it sound like its a gift that we're getting free patches..

Well over the years Gabe must have warmed up to Sony and the PS3.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabe_Newell

"Nevertheless, at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Entertainment_Expo in 2010, Newell appeared on stage at Sony's keynote; while acknowledging his past outspoken comments on console development, he discussed the open nature of Sony's PlayStation 3 platform, and announced http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal_2 for the console, remarking that with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steamworks support it would be the best version for any console.^{http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabe_Newell#cite_note-6} Newell has also criticized the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_Live service, referring to it as "a train wreck".^{http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabe_Newell#cite_note-7}"

Please don't turn this into a defensive console war but there are valid points about the different closed proprietary systems on consoles.

@solidscale - your car anology was all sorts of off base, though I understand what you were hoping to get. I've removed the relevant posts.

I do hope bethesda gets their [censored] together. At least they're attempting. And the patch 1.7 is out already? I've taken a break from Skyrim so I wouldn't know.

Thank you...I think.....

Hey I would just like to point out something.

If you were Bethesda now, with all your mistakes done, what would you do?

You've released 3 products (FO3, FONV, Skyrim) with these issues on the PS3. It's done, you can't undo what's done. So, your next thing (DG) has the same problem. So, you could release it, knowing it's broken the same way, or, now that you're acknowledging the issue, hold it back, and fix the thing. It is NOT right to release another bad product just because all the previous ones were the same. Consistency is pointless, you might as well fix the issue now, and never make it again, rather than wait for your next big release.

Now, what would be awesome is if they fixed Skyrim's PS3 problems simultaneously via patch. They might be doing this, but that is speculation. What would be stupendously awesome is if they went back and fixed FO3 and NV but due to being a company they probably simply can't.

They made mistakes. Now they want to fix them, so let them, it's rather silly to complain now. Yes they made mistakes, but don't chew them out for finally doing something about it.

I do to, I do give them credit for trying now that I've calm down from the shock of the news, Nope hasn't been submitted to sony or MS, So have I, I booted my game up to see if the patch was thier it wasn't

Oh Bethesda.

I hope you learn something from this.

Oh. Well when patch 1.7 comes out I'll play skyrim again. The amount of bugs I got from dawnguard made me stop playing for a bit. I wish bethesda would've took some time with my version .

Oh man, i'am really with my brothers (ans sisters) in arms from the ps3, i have waited with them since june 26. Until 10 minutes ago (just out of bed its 4 am in Germany) i had no clue when they would even announce an release date for pc/ps3.

And now?
It is out for pc and maybe comes out for ps3 when hell freezes over?
Thats hard! Still can't believe it although i read it three times by now.

Well, once Sony gets the 1.7 patch (who knows when that will be too) you can expect the patch roughly 2-3 weeks after that.. Either way, I'm thinking at least very late August early September for patch 1.7.. Dawnguard? October?

I play up till I get near to the end of civil war for the imperial, then give it a rest until DG comes out and then and then pick it up again. *pats back* I'm sure they will with the next DLC.

I shouldn't have used cars lol. I just think that if you are going to release a game on a system, whatever it may be, that the responsibility lies on the developer, not the console. That's all I was getting at. I apologize for any patronizing/disparraging things I may have said. Just got a little worked up.

Keep Valve out of this. They're pure art. Pure. Art.

That's a little long but I have a feeling you might be accurate.
I doubt it. Either way I'm still probably going to buy it.

sadly..you might be right about that, lol same, I'm curious as what it might be next, hearthfire?, something unexpected? who knows right now.

What I said was true. I didn't bring Valve into this btw. I was responding to someone elses gabe newell rant.

Yes, but they are not famous for that. They're famous for taking a lot of time to develop games resulting in perfection each time.

HUGE thank you to Gstaff for updating us on the status of Dawnguard. It is much better for them to release the dlc later if it means that it will perform better. Thank you for finally letting us know what is going on. Transparency is always appreciated.