Seriously, about the region lock, there is no hope? : V - Skyrim

» Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:27 am

It doesn't matter what LANGUAGE it's in.. the REGION that the DISC is made for is what matters. AMERICAN DLC only works for AMERICAN DISCS. BRAZILIAN DISCS will use BRAZILIAN DLC, regardless of language. Honestly, do you need a how-to tutorial to understand this very simple concept?

try to use your brain. Someone can buy the UK version of Skyrim and play with it on a FIGS account just because localization svcks and english version is better by far.
Now with dawnguard coming, the ideal is to be able to get the UK version of the DLC rather than the 'local' one (not considering the fact that it couldn't work at all).

Other games like ME3 works like this perfectly so why not skyrim DLCs

is that hard to understand ?

-peace

» Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:33 am

Uh. Wat?

I agree with English being a standard for everyone who wants to play. DLC shouldn't be locked due to language barrier, but you can blame pirates for that. Travelling in China was the most horrid thing for a gamer. Street stalls selling "The Great Older Books Version V: Skydream"? That's why you wait.

But saying everyone should live in the US? Uh, no. You should probably re-write that to say North America.

Canada gets English DLC that works JUST fine. If you live in Quebec, you get English and French. ALSO WORKS JUST FINE.

Also, translation requires $$$ and time, not to mention a team of devs who are multi-lingual. If you have a problem with the system, apply to Bethesda as a translator or PR representative for Brazil.

Translation has nothing to do with it. The English version is done, it's out. Why in the world are there some people in some places that can't get it? That's idiocy, and that's what I was talking about. To that extent, I think you missed my point.

As for every single person on earth moving to the USA, clearly that was a joke. Sorry you missed as much. I didn't mean everyone should literally move to the US, nor did I mean that every single game should be made in the US (seeing as what I said wasn't even close to that anyway). I have and play lots of games from all over the world. That has nothing to do with it.

What is stupid is that a US game in English is available now, for download, but only in English speaking countries. That's stupid ignorance to assume that only people in English speaking countries would want the English version.

If I were to go to Chile with my American computer with the US American Skyrim, speaking American English and try to download the American English version of DG, I couldn't get it. Stupid.

That was my point.

That's not true at all, there are a ton of American game developers who create multiple voiced and dubbed versions of their games for international players. I think Bethesda sort of dropped the ball by forcing language on different regions. Especially when you see how many international players bought the English version of the game only to be forced into "native" language for the DLC. ( I hope i'm understanding correctly) This will definitely be fixed, but it shouldn't have happened to begin with. Good luck international players, hope you get the fix you need :smile:

This was closer to my point. Forcing English speaker that don't happen to live in "English Zones" to wait for the version for their zone is stupidity. That's what has me all hot and bothered about this. Someone at Bethesda or Zenimax dropped the ball big time and can't read contracts right.

Either that or they forgot to write that letter to general counsel to find out how this all works.

» Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:30 pm

So, i live in Austria and bought Skyrim while in the UK (UK version). Are you telling me, that i won't be able to play Dawnguard (even after 10th July)? Because that would be a first. I always buy the english versions of games (better VA, no cuts --> Thanks, Germany!). I never had any problem getting the dlc for the games (Mass Effect 1-3, Castlvainia LoS, Borderlands and so on) But for Skyrim - the game i waited for since Morrowind - i need a german version to enjoy the DLC in Austira? Thats just .... :ohmy:

That's what it's looking like right now. You live in Austria, so you can only have the local version of DG, regardless of which version you are actually playing.

That's so absurdly idiotic that I can't imagine it's what they meant to do, or intend to keep doing. I bet this will be fixed soon, now that I think about it.

» Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:45 am

the DLC's region is not related to the language disc or console, just to the account's country. And this is IMPOSSIBLE TO CHANGE! :mellow:

of course this is Microsoft's fault.

I have all in english, only my account is in italian but I can't do anything. But Bethesda can do something: for example, give us the same english DLC. It's not difficult to do, eh. It's the same, easier. And then give a free dlc with italian or spanish or french or german audio. Are we asking too much?

» Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:40 am

the DLC's region is not related to the language disc or console, just to the account's country. And this is IMPOSSIBLE TO CHANGE! :mellow:

of course this is Microsoft's fault.

I have all in english, only my account is in italian but I can't do anything. But Bethesda can do something: for example, give us the same english DLC. It's not difficult to do, eh. It's the same, easier. And then give a free dlc with italian or spanish or french or german audio. Are we asking too much?

For being Bethesda, a mediocre and incompetent developer, you are asking too much i think

» Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:27 am

For being Bethesda, a mediocre and incompetent developer, you are asking too much i think

mmh...this is not the good way to ask something, I guess.

» Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:01 am

mmh...this is not the good way to ask something, I guess. :biggrin:

I'm pissed of... and we are not asking for any favors dude, it's OUR RIGHT! :stare:

Besides, i'm not insulting anybody by saying the truth

» Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:58 am

Look who's reading right now

» Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:46 am

Brazil and Chile are two of them...

We're looking into South America.

» Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:45 am

We're looking into South America.

Thank you? :dry:

» Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:41 am

Thank you? :dry:

Calm down, we were asking for some answers and we got them already

No es necesario tanto enojo

We're looking into South America.

Thanks

» Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:51 pm

We're looking into South America.

I'm from Chile too. Appreciate it.

» Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:07 am

Calm down, we where asking for some answers and we got them already

No es necesario tanto enojo

Thanks :smile:

En eso nos diferenciamos de los gringos lame botas... nosotros tenemos bolas

» Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:40 am

En eso nos diferenciamos de los gringos lame botas... nosotros tenemos bolas :wink:

I disagree. It's best to ask for things with calmness and kindness

» Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:16 am

I disagree. It's best to ask for things with calmness and kindness :smile:

I know, i know... but i'm still pissed off because of this situation

Well, now that i know they are "working" on this i'll be quiet and waiting... finally

» Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:47 am

Same here.
I'm Italian, I have the PAL UK version.
I always buy the original version of games, movies, books etc; I want to enjoy a creative work as it was originally conceived, with the original actors/voices; no translations or localizations.
Now: is there anything wrong with it? I don't think so.
Didn't Bethesda get my money anyway? I think they did.
So, now, why isn't my English version of Skyrim supported?
Why do I have to wait for the italian version?
And worse: when available, the italian version will probably not work with the UK disc; and even if it will, why should I put up with having italian dialogues mixed with english ones?

One more thing: when patch 1.6 was out, my game immediately found it and downloaded it, even though it wasn't available in Italy (I think it isn't yet, but I might be wrong).
In that case, the UK version was supported even if i wasn't in an English speaking region. Why isn't the same thing happening with the DLC?

I don't mind waiting, I'm in no hurry, but I think it's my consumer right to have my version of the game supported as well as anybody else's, no matter where i physically am.
Therefore, I would really like to be guaranteed that, now or later, my english version of the game will automatically download the english version of the DLC.

I hope Bethesda will realize this is just reasonable to ask and will find a way to accomplish this...?

» Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:18 am

I hope Bethesda will realize this is just reasonable to ask and will find a way to accomplish this...?

Yup, it is reasonable. They said "We're looking into South America."... whatever that means, but i think they know this is a whole problem on south america and europe, and probably in other continents too

... i hope

» Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:42 am

I know, i know... but i'm still pissed off because of this situation

Well, now that i know they are "working" on this i'll be quiet and waiting... finally :tongue:

I understand how you feel, I'm in the same situation.

And anyway they're looking into south america, but not in Europe, so I'm not so optimist... :\

» Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:15 am

I understand how you feel, I'm in the same situation.

And anyway they're looking into south america, but not in Europe, so I'm not so optimist... :\

Don't worry, they know

, it's logical to think that if we on a non-english country are having this problem, why they would not to think that for the rest as well?... i hope :/

» Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:00 pm

Don't worry, they know :wink:

, it's logical to think that if we on a non-english country are having this problem, why they would not to think that for the rest as well?... i hope :/

I wouldn't go that far. If they could put that many dots together, they likely wouldn't have had this problem in the fist place. Problem is, this is almost certainly caused by bad communication between multiple companies or something to that effect. I doubt it's a guy in a room somewhere going "ooohh.. crap!"

Nope, there's a lot of people mixing up a lot of paperwork for this to be the result. Not going to be a quick fix, and I imagine it would be really easy for them to lose track of stuff.

» Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:48 am

I wouldn't go that far. If they could put that many dots together, they likely wouldn't have had this problem in the fist place. Problem is, this is almost certainly caused by bad communication between multiple companies or something to that effect. I doubt it's a guy in a room somewhere going "ooohh.. crap!"

Nope, there's a lot of people mixing up a lot of paperwork for this to be the result. Not going to be a quick fix, and I imagine it would be really easy for them to lose track of stuff.

Well, that's what i'm waiting for now... a fix. Enough is enough i quess :dry:

» Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:18 am

That's the explanation i want to ear from Bethesda people here... but they are ignoring all of this situation :ermm:

You really don't get it region locks are not Bestheda's doing, Region locking is nothing new its been around since the original Nintendo system maybe even sooner. Stop riding Bestheda's rear about it

» Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:35 pm

We're looking into South America.

Let's cross our fingers, everyone! :T

Thank you for keeping us updated, Gstaff!

» Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:15 am

Same here.
I'm Italian, I have the PAL UK version.
I always buy the original version of games, movies, books etc; I want to enjoy a creative work as it was originally conceived, with the original actors/voices; no translations or localizations.
Now: is there anything wrong with it? I don't think so.
Didn't Bethesda get my money anyway? I think they did.
So, now, why isn't my English version of Skyrim supported?
Why do I have to wait for the italian version?
And worse: when available, the italian version will probably not work with the UK disc; and even if it will, why should I put up with having italian dialogues mixed with english ones?

One more thing: when patch 1.6 was out, my game immediately found it and downloaded it, even though it wasn't available in Italy (I think it isn't yet, but I might be wrong).
In that case, the UK version was supported even if i wasn't in an English speaking region. Why isn't the same thing happening with the DLC?

I don't mind waiting, I'm in no hurry, but I think it's my consumer right to have my version of the game supported as well as anybody else's, no matter where i physically am.
Therefore, I would really like to be guaranteed that, now or later, my english version of the game will automatically download the english version of the DLC.

I hope Bethesda will realize this is just reasonable to ask and will find a way to accomplish this...?

Didn't noticed this thread before and I just opened another one about this matter...

Anyway, EXATLY the SAME situation I'm in. I'm italian too, with an PAL UK version of Skyrim.
When they announced that Dawnguard would be available on the 26th but only in english I supposed that the english version would be available on FIGS countries anyway, just without local localisation, but nothing...

I now really think that the only way to download Dawnguard in english for us european players owning a UK version of Skyrim is to use an UK account...wich is going to be really boring and a pain in the ass...unless Bethesda tells us that when the localised versions come out there will be english versions for us FIGS countries too...

» Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:03 pm

You really don't get it region locks are not Bestheda's doing, Region locking is nothing new its been around since the original Nintendo system maybe even sooner. Stop riding Bestheda's rear about it

What an ignorant you are. I only had this problem with this game, no other. Is that so hard to understand? Also, they are already working over this... so? :dry: