I did read your previous posts. The fact it was playing other games is irrelevent. While Skyrim may have attributed to the system failure (corrupting files), it did not cause the failure. Games do not cause system failure.

If the system is under warranty, get your replacement. If it is not, these systems only seem to run an average of 2 years so... it was on it's way out anyhow. Mine is crashing more and more right now, is it the game? No. How do I know this? My system has been aging, although it is new, I get odd HDD clicks, fan buzzes, and odd hums at times. Noises of failing components. This browser also causes quite a few (way more than Skyrim) freezes and crashes. System was bought new as system bundle with Killzone 3, so still under a year old. Due to all of this, I know it is not Skyrim that will cause my system's death, but it may be making a contribution.

Even worse though is your a Georgia fan.

It's just very odd to have a PS3 for 4 months, have every game play flawlessly(no freezing, lockups, anything), and BOOM, when I get Skyrim, it goes freeze crazy, system rattles then shuts down only to corrupt my data. I just know i'm not the only one experiencing the freezing problem which is why I am furious about this issue.

I am going to get my money back for the PS3 as it still is under warranty, it's just the principle of the fact that this broken game is so bugged now that it is causing systems to actually crash. I am convinced that nothing was wrong with my system prior to playing Skyrim.


Let me guess, you're an Auburn fan still hurting from that roasting, or a fan of another conference who is consistently dominated by the SEC as a whole? Either way that is off-topic.

Well, I've just had this game lock up my PS3 eight times in a row, after about five minutes of gameplay. Now, since I can't access the XMB or do anything, my only choice is to turn off the PS3 via power button, but the improper shutdown while the PS3 is still accessing the hard drive has a chance of corrupting it. This is computer hardware 101 right there, and the PS3 states as much when I start it back up and it checks for corruption. Realistically I can only do this so many times before it will actually ruin the hard drive - so I have no doubt at this point that if I keep playing it WILL destroy my hard drive, eventually. Just my two cents, it svcks because this is a great game, but I'm not ready to shell out the dough for a new HDD just to play it.

This is exactly what i'm talking about, right here. Prime example.

My advice to you is to stop playing Skyrim right now. Don't risk your HD blowing out, it isn't worth it.

A difficult prospect, but it's the conclusion I've come to. At 144 hours in with only a couple quests to go with the DB and Thieve's Guild, I just want to finish the questlines but it looks like that won't happen for now. Just waiting to see if when 1.3 update hits maybe I'll see more stability.

Until then, thank god for Battlefield 3 and Uncharted 3!

These claims of skyrim blowing up PS3s are becoming much more prevalent with each passing day. I've seen people put their ps3 systems on ebay, claiming they were playing skyrim when their ps3 died, and a lot of claims on the 'official' bethesda forums here. If people claim new vegas or other bethesda games kill their ps3s, then there may be something to it. The engine is practically the same. Bethesda could somehow be overclocking the cpu and/or gpu for this engine, causing a massive amount of heat in the system. It is well-known that the PS3 uses a type of solder that cracks easily with heat, causing displacement of the cpu and gpu, aka the yellow light of death. In fact, I just bought a PS3 system at a yard sale yesterday with the infamous YLOD, in hopes of fixing it on the cheap, and the guy said he was playing skyrim when it went out! Sony quoted him $100 to fix it. It was an older 40gb model. So, he kept the controller and games and just went out and bought a new 180gb model slim PS3.

YLOD, Save game corruption, complete hard drive corruption. These issues shouldn't be discounted just because 'everyone' hasn't experienced them.

Pressing the power button performs a proper shutdown, that why it takes some seconds.

Well here's my story about Skyrim it didn't kill my system though. I got Oblivion 5th anniversary I've had it in my system the whole time till Skyrim came out. I get Skyrim put it in to see how bad the screen cutoff was (Had an SDTV at the time) I played the whole begining scene ok. I was like damn that does svck I wanted to get an HDTV anyway so I take Skyrim out put Oblivion back in start up the game. It starts loading up my PS3 makes a loud squealing noise I was like wtf then the Oblivion title comes up and the screen is mirrored over and over like your looking in a mirror with another mirror behind you and it's the same image but trailing off into the distance. I was like wtf ok hit the PS button my controller and shut the game down restarted it was fine I was like thank god. Haven't had that happen since though just the same Skyrim problems bugged quests and lag. I won't put off anyone that says it killed their system because it could happen.

Seriously though my ps3 did the same thing about 6 months ago. Just died and its the HD for sure. I just cut my losses sold my blu rays and games and stuck with the 360 since.

No you are not the only one to experience freezes. Depending on how you use your system, you may or may not see problems in other games or applications.


You won't be able to get your money back (depending on location I guess) but you will be able to get your PS3 repaired/refurbished. Causing a system to crash really is not that difficult for a game... I have seen crashes reported for some of the strangest games (Plants vs Zombies, MtG Duels of the Planeswalkers, etc) and seen crashes on these bigger games. I have even had freezes in my NES/SNES days, and maybe even Atari (my brain doesnt go back that far), so I do not expect that to stop happening.

If that minor ammount of information convinces you, then shame on you. It is completely ignorant to believe a game causes direct system malfunction. Again, it may contribue to the problem, but does not cause the malfunction directly.

So what would cause a system to crash other than playing a game or using software? Your reasoning is confusing. The only way for the PS3 to crash like this is software corrupting the hardware. There simply is no other way. The system has to have some kind of start point for the corruption to begin. You can't just turn the PS3 on and blame the blow out on some kind of mystery.

Software caused the malfunction, and in this case the software was Skyrim. As I have said countless times again, many have experienced this issue with Skyrim, whether it be extreme lag, to freezing, and in my case, "boom game freeze leading to an entire system corruption".

It was Skyrim that caused the problem, if anything this isn't ignorance this is the saddening truth.

When you consider software runs hardware, like hardware runs software, it only makes sense that one could damage the other in either respect. If you think a game doesn't have the potential to damage hardware you have another thing coming.

ROUTE 66 KILLED MY CAR@!!!!!


DONT DRIVE ON ROUTE 66 FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS

And a tv show killed my plasma!!!

I guess by making comparisons with things that are completely unrelated we can prove that software cannot damage hardware.

Let me jump on board!

My undercooked steak made the Beatles break up!

Rofl.

In all seriousness, back to the topic at hand.

I've seen mods continuously viewing this thread yet none have made any contributions. Mods, will you attempt to post in this thread and not lurk it?

Well, on a serious note - I think the Illuminati are behind this. Mayhap Newt Gingrich, but for sure the Illuminati.

I've seen you post on numerous threads that your game is fine so why are you in the Hardware and Software forum trolling people who are having problems. Go play your game if it works so well wtf are you doing here?

Your system can, and will, crash from causes other than corruption. Your data does not get corrupted everytime your system crashes. An overheat can cause a system to freeze or crash.


Again, software did not cause the malfunction. This is your likely scenario: Play game, game lags (memory leak), memory over taxed sends corrupted info to HDD, corruption accessed game freezes - now at this point one of two things could happen... 1. User unplugs system causing further system damage (user caused) 2. User presses power button, system shuts down, system powers for hd scan (depending on where corruption is, maybe fix)

That is just an example but the game will cause memory leaks, and can tax hardware, depends on the coding. The game in it's self does not cause the system to break. These problems are caused by Memory and HDD issues, which are ultimately hardware problems. That is in part why the problem is not as noticeable on PC. This problem isn't even universal, although I have had a freeze or 2, I have not had any major lag at all. If the game were causing system damaging problems, everyone would in fact see them.


Again, I hope you can now see what I am trying to explain here.

What is a mod supposed to say? They have no influence or input from Bethesda other than anthing Gstaff might post on a whim.

The ridiculous claim that such and such game broke my ps3 goes on in every single popular game on the market. ALL of them broke your ps3.


Just because you were playing Skyrim when yours went belly up doesn't mean Skyrim added anything in particular to your kettle of pos stew.

Blame Sony before you blame anyone else.

The ps3 is terrible in this regard and Sony has redesigned it several times because of it.

My fat 40 gave up after just a year of gentle playing. The bad design of the Laser mount was at fault and I threw the stupid PS3 in the trash and bough a newer design.


Unfortunately these consoles wear out. HDs crash all the time. Ask any pc user. I've had Video cards, HDs, sound cards, you name it... they all break.

It wasn't skyrim and it's just silly to blame the game.

Of course games cause stress on our PS3... So stop playing games. There's your answer.


If youn want a game cconsole with heat and moving parts, you are gonna have to live with the fact that they break down.

You don't need video of a crash to prove anything, because that doesn't prove anything. My PS3 has crashed a few times while playing Skyrim, and I walked away. Turned my PS3 on later or more likely the next day (probably because when it happened I had been playing for several hours) with no problems whatsoever.

All I'm saying is that you need proof to say something like this. Proof. Proof. Proof. If you could prove it, I would not play Skyrim again until a fix has been made, and I would tell everyone I know to do the same. I'm not saying you're wrong, but what I am saying is that you are speculating out the wazoo. And yeah, I understand that proof can be hard to come by, but the internet is amazing, have you looked for precedents in these circumstances? What, if any, damage can software cause to hardware? What kinds of damage? Why was that damage incurred? Was the experiment reproducible?

Anecdotal evidence is to science what wrenches are to surgery. Useless.

Always great to discuss a technical issue with someone who describes an issues as " it got blown out" what? Your hd is still working but needs reformat or it's physically dead?

Feel bad the OP is experiencing issues right now but.....

This is getting out of hand and I think people just need something to blame. I was playing mass effect 2 a while back and my ps3 crashed, guess what it was my HDD. A quick swap and I continued playing. Also, a lot of these people started to come to the realization that the older fat PlayStation had serious soldering issues which overtime dry out and create hardware failures. Those hard drives are 4-5 years old too. These things break over time/quickly and it svcks but you have to move on. The newer slim system I have will break tomorrow or after a few years too. I think most people expect the thing to last the whole lifetime and when it does they get angry and assume everything.......

Yes skyrim has had crashing issues, but saying it caused it needs more anolysis. People are also putting massive hours into a game that uses their HDD a lot. Add up the past 3-4 games you spent time playing now compare to this one. Bottom line a console with a mechanical drive broke. Head online or go to store and get a new drive(if that is the case), throw a tantrum too if you want and sell the game. I would hate to see these people when they buy a new car and something breaks.

Edit: Also people who do not backup their ps3 data are the same as the people who don't back up their PC.

Don't sweat it trying to convince people OP.
Let them experience HDD corruption themselves and blame it on Sony or the weather. Or maybe global warming, electrical storm, a butterfly moving its wings in China.
I am convinced that the way Skyrim's game engine accesses the HDD is problematic and that it can cause corruption.

Yeah, at this point i'm tired of repeating myself.

How can I [censored] give proof? SERIOUSLY? You want me to sit in front of my [censored] TV with my iPhone rolling at all times just waiting for another PS3 HDD to blow out due to Skyrim???? FFS!!!!!!!!

If you guys don't believe what i'm saying then just continue to risk your game. Go ahead, keep playing. Just don't say no one warned you because that's all i'm really trying to do at this point.

Jesus. I swear some of you are serious Bethesda nuthuggers.