Skyrim just blew my PS3 out

Post » Fri May 18, 2012 8:08 pm

Understandable but it is a far-stretch to believe it's a coincidence that multiple people have experienced PS3 crashing and HD corruption only after playing Skyrim. The facts add up perfectly.
Maybe there's a senario like this:
Skyrim use's your PS3's HDD very intensively because of the large amount of memory needed and accesses the hard drive a lot. Possibly a batch of PS3 were sold with less than stellar hard drives that are corrupted more easily?
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Robert Garcia
 
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Post » Fri May 18, 2012 9:57 pm

There's no proof that it is breaking them either. Just because some people's PS3s break while playing skyrim isn't proof enough to claim it was skyrims fault. There's a fallacy term for this that escapes me atm... FYI I am in no way defending bethesda's wreck of a game. Just trying to be fair.

Affirming the consequent?

But if he was smart he could argue that you are using Argument from ignorance.
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Post » Fri May 18, 2012 10:49 am

Maybe there's a senario like this:
Skyrim use's your PS3's HDD very intensively because of the large amount of memory needed and accesses the hard drive a lot. Possibly a batch of PS3 were sold with less than stellar hard drives that are corrupted more easily?

Wouldn't that still be Skyrims fault then? Unless all the corruptions re happening on the same type of system 120gb slim for example, I don't think this is the case but we'll just have to wait and see.
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Post » Fri May 18, 2012 9:07 pm

Wouldn't that still be Skyrims fault then?

Not really. It would mean that it could break whilst playing any game, that game just happened to be Skyrim.
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Post » Fri May 18, 2012 11:13 am

Wouldn't that still be Skyrims fault then?
Not if the HDD were poor quality from the start. That is up to sony to make sure the PS3 is made with quality parts.
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Post » Fri May 18, 2012 4:25 pm

At least he wasn't playing that stupid Modern CopyPaste 3 game.
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Post » Fri May 18, 2012 2:09 pm

Affirming the consequent?

But if he was smart he could argue that you are using Argument from ignorance.
Ignorance? please explain
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Post » Fri May 18, 2012 5:04 pm

Not really. It would mean that it could break whilst playing any game, that game just happened to be Skyrim.

Either you are subtly trolling or you do blindly support this broken game for some reason, and why, I have no clue. I'm going to ignore your posts now and focus on the other people who actually give intelligent responses.
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Post » Fri May 18, 2012 11:32 pm

Ignorance? please explain

Don't get me wrong, I'm not calling you ignorant. Argument from ignorance: assuming that a claim is true (or false) because it has not been proven false (true) or cannot be proven false (true)

Was just giving him a come-back to the assumption he was using a fallacy. It's hard to make a statement and not use one lol

It's time I left this thread, I'm not helping...
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Post » Fri May 18, 2012 11:20 am

hey ya my 40gb ps3 fat i've had for 4 years died after like 140 hours of skyrim. dont kno if it was the game, or the fact that i play alot. in a way its great that i got 4 years out of it the way i worked it so hard. all i do know is that it took me all of about 10 minutes of messing with it trying to get it to start again before i said F* this and went out and bought a new 120gb slim cuz this game is epic and i must feed my addiction. maybe its a scheme with sony to boost console sales to finally outsell the 360 haha. anyways, sorry it happened to you also man, hope you get some sort of resolution!
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 1:50 am

Not if the HDD were poor quality from the start. That is up to sony to make sure the PS3 is made with quality parts.

I don't even know what to say anymore, now we've got Sony selling cheap HD's on some models. It's never the game or bethesda is it? It's everyone else doing all sort of things and a lot of them just happen to be playing skyrim and lose everything on their HD when it freezes while playing skyrim.
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Post » Fri May 18, 2012 8:39 pm

The "Processing Element" of the Cell is a 3.2-GHz PowerPC core equipped with 512 KB of L2 cache. The PowerPC core is a type of microprocessor similar to the one you would find running the Apple G5. It's a powerful processor on its own and could easily run a computer by itself; but in the Cell, the PowerPC core is not the sole processor. Instead, it's more of a "managing processor." It delegates processing to the eight other processors on the chip, the Synergistic Processing Elements.

The computational workload comes in through the PowerPC core. The core then assesses the work that needs to be done, looks at what the SPEs are currently processing and decides how to best dole out the workload to achieve maximum efficiency.


When an Engine does not allocate memory appropriately with the Cell processor you find in a PS3, the workload of the processor is is limited to, a few of the SPEs, which causes more stress on the chosen SPEs and not divided to share the load among them all.

This can result in system failure if the load is to much for SPEs, and can overheat the elements, under long term exposure.



Not sure who said this...but sounds like to me he just gave the answer to everyone that is saying... "Skyrim isn't breaking consoles....GIVE US PROOF!".



:celebration:
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Post » Fri May 18, 2012 2:56 pm

My friends 2 week old ps3 slim has just had problem with the harddrive and guess what game hes been playing and only playing yes SKYRIM.He has to return it to the store tomorrow to exchange it.
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Post » Fri May 18, 2012 6:52 pm

I am sorry for your loss. I can tell you a few things that will/will not happen though.

1. Bethesda will not replace your PS3.
2. The store will not refund your cash because you opened the game, and I don't know anywhere you can return opened software.
3. Bethesda will not lose sleep and does not care about you.
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Post » Fri May 18, 2012 2:34 pm

Either you are subtly trolling or you do blindly support this broken game for some reason, and why, I have no clue. I'm going to ignore your posts now and focus on the other people who actually give intelligent responses.

Hard-drives have a shelf life, that's a fact. They're like a time bomb that's been ticking down since you first started using it, eventually it's going to break. Yours just happened to break while you were playing Skyrim.

It is possible that Skyrim is speeding up the process though.
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Post » Fri May 18, 2012 8:35 pm

Hey man, I hear you!

Fallout 3 GOTY fried the Blue Ray Drive of my old 60gb and enough complaints were made to EBgames were I live that they took the game off the shelves.

Skyrimv staff is currently running after their tail while receiving GOTY awards. What I find interesting is that more and more gaming sites are responding to gamers frustrations, ecpecially eurogamer and IGN.

Bethesda won't be able to hide from their responsabilities like during the Fallout incidents. I'll never buy Fallout New Vegas after the damages done by the previous entry and went to Borderlands instead. I kept the Elder Scrolls franchise since Oblivion and it's expansion went well with my console, with the exception of the final boss fight with Martin Septim which brought my PS3 FPS to the "press play on tape" era of my Vic 20.

I read the frustrations at such a large scale... The outcome of this situation will be something to remember for the industry I'm sure. God I can't wait for Sony to jump seriously into this...
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 12:57 am

I don't even know what to say anymore, now we've got Sony selling cheap HD's on some models. It's never the game or bethesda is it? It's everyone else doing all sort of things and a lot of them just happen to be playing skyrim and lose everything on their HD when it freezes while playing skyrim.
I'm not claiming fact, just a hypothetical lol
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Post » Fri May 18, 2012 9:23 pm

Hard-drives have a shelf life, that's a fact. They're like a time bomb that's been ticking down since you first started using it, eventually it's going to break. Yours just happened to break while you were playing Skyrim.

It is possible that Skyrim is speeding up the process though.

I just bought this PS3 four months ago. A ticking time bomb you say?
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Post » Fri May 18, 2012 10:28 pm

I'm not claiming fact, just a hypothetical lol

Fair enough.
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Post » Fri May 18, 2012 9:13 pm

I just bought this PS3 four months ago. A ticking time bomb you say?

Some bombs tick faster than others. Just ask Wille E. Coyote
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Post » Fri May 18, 2012 11:58 pm

The "Processing Element" of the Cell is a 3.2-GHz PowerPC core equipped with 512 KB of L2 cache. The PowerPC core is a type of microprocessor similar to the one you would find running the Apple G5. It's a powerful processor on its own and could easily run a computer by itself; but in the Cell, the PowerPC core is not the sole processor. Instead, it's more of a "managing processor." It delegates processing to the eight other processors on the chip, the Synergistic Processing Elements.

The computational workload comes in through the PowerPC core. The core then assesses the work that needs to be done, looks at what the SPEs are currently processing and decides how to best dole out the workload to achieve maximum efficiency.


When an Engine does not allocate memory appropriately with the Cell processor you find in a PS3, the workload of the processor is is limited to, a few of the SPEs, which causes more stress on the chosen SPEs and not divided to share the load among them all.

This can result in system failure if the load is to much for SPEs, and can overheat the elements, under long term exposure.



Not sure who said this...but sounds like to me he just gave the answer to everyone that is saying... "Skyrim isn't breaking consoles....GIVE US PROOF!".



:celebration:
We don't know that skyrim is causing this either. His hard drive was corrupted. This has nothing to do with overheating the CPU.
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 12:45 am

I hope it's still under warranty lol.
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 2:57 am

Bethesda already knows that many people are getting corrupted files with Skyrim, where have you been?

What the above quote you replied to states, is exactly how a poorly proper coded game engine can destroy the SPEs inside a playstation 3 buddy :foodndrink:


And is also how Josh Sawyer explaines what the problem is with the Creation engine...


My point being.. stop fighting, point is proven, it can destroy your system, if it is indeed tied to an Engine issue.
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 12:22 am

They certainly do know, there's a developer browsing at the mo.
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Post » Fri May 18, 2012 1:34 pm

I am sorry for your loss. I can tell you a few things that will/will not happen though.

1. Bethesda will not replace your PS3.
2. The store will not refund your cash because you opened the game, and I don't know anywhere you can return opened software.
3. Bethesda will not lose sleep and does not care about you.

In the uk you can get a refund even if the games been opened.Under the goods for sale act 1979 "has to be fit for the purpose it was intended for" this was also confirmed by consumer rights when i rang them thats how i got a full refund.
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