Skyrim is NOT an RPG. : V - Skyrim

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:57 pm

Wikipedia is a reliable source?

It is when the material is cited and you can verify those sources.

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:04 pm

Role Playing Game. A game in which you assume the role of a character in a fictional setting.

Worst definition of an RPG I've ever heard.

You realize that classifies every single game ever made as an RPG.

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:20 pm

LOL WUT? Why am I the only one that thinks the new character development system is awesome and RPG?

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:40 am

I guess RPG = lots of spreadsheets

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:22 am

I stopped bothering with such terms, especially when BioWare throws around the word "Streamlining". At any rate, TES is just godly in nature, one of the few still in tact franchises without the need for multiplayer. Thank Talos

A Talos worshiper eh? This will not stand!

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:13 pm

Role Playing Game. A game in which you assume the role of a character in a fictional setting.

It's an RPG.

That's a terrible definition. Unless you are willing to call Super Mario games RPGs, or Halo, or CoD, or Centipede, or pretty much every other game ever. 90% of games (things like Tetris are exceptions) have you assume the role of a character in a fictional setting...

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:52 pm

When people stop using the excuse that RPG exists only in mind, is when people will agree it isn't much of an RPG. all those "endless possibilites" don't exist anywhere in the game. don't care about you're mind we're talking in context of the game, and in context of the game. there aren't much in choices.

Way more possibilities than any other Bethesda game out there....

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:25 pm

Just to make it clear, Progressive Leveling System does not equal Role-Playing Game; It is just an RPG element.

Well this is not true, it actually has more character developement than older elder scrolls games. Perks change a lot about your character. But it's lacking options, mainly in dialogue / quests and TES games never have had any real options.

I don't think that's the kind of Character Development they meant, an RPG always has a narrative and that narrative can change based on the actions performed. The character's development goes along with that narrative, the problem with skyrim is the story is pretty short and so it's narrative suffers with it. It is still an RPG but it's a very lite RPG compared to other proper RPGs around. In my opinion fallout 3 is more of an RPG then Skyrim since the actions you take have consequences or effect the storyline in some way.

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:27 pm

We define the player character, correct?

There are choices. (i.e.) Daedric quests

There are levels, skills and stats, abeit limited.

It's as much a RPG as Daggerfall, just different in how it accomplishes it.

RPG is a very wide range.

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:58 pm

open world games and RPG games are not mutually exlusive

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:43 am

LOL WUT? Why am I the only one that thinks the new character development system is awesome and RPG?

Your not. I think it's awesome too.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:11 am

We define the player character, correct?

There are choices. (i.e.) Daedric quests

There are levels, skills and stats, abeit limited.

It's as much a RPG as Daggerfall, just different in how it accomplishes it.

RPG is a very wide range.

Daggerfall has more spreadsheets, because RPGs have spreadsheets.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:12 am

A Talos worshiper eh? This will not stand!

Actually more fond of Arkay. But whatever your issue is, I am willing to obliterate you to Oblivion!

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:02 am

Arg, why are there still threads like this?
Who cares what "genre" it is? If a game is good, play it!
RPG as a term is too broad and encompasses way too many games. Many people in current times refere to this genre as broad and therefor break it up into "action/adventure" and so forth.
Why do you, or anyone else, for that matter care if the game you are playing is 100% RPG, 1/2 RPG or none?

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:01 am

Just to make it clear, Progressive Leveling System does not equal Role-Playing Game; It is just an RPG element.

I don't think that's the kind of Character Development they meant, an RPG usually has a narrative and that narrative can change based on the actions performed. The character's development goes along with that narrative, the problem with skyrim is the story is pretty short and so it's narrative suffers with it. It is still an RPG but it's a very lite RPG compared to other proper RPGs around. In my opinion fallout 3 is more of an RPG then Skyrim since the actions you take have consequences or effect the storyline in some way.

Well this was kind of my point. TES games never really had any real consequences when you did something(well, daggerfall did have some). It's just that people seem to think that Beth suddenly removed the RP part of RPG.

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:42 pm

Yeah, it's just an action-adventure-FPS, like the rest in the series, starting with Arena...

no, really, if Skyrim is not an RPG, how are Daggerfall and Morrowind?

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:51 pm

I could argue that C&C is a RPG because it has Stats, Ranks etc...
I could also argue it is an RPG because I play the role of Commander.
At the end of the day, Its not an RPG, Its the greatest RTS ever made.

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:37 pm

I wonder when this threads will stop appearing.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:30 am

as long as the game works we dont care what it is called here at our house on our PS3...

Skyim, is not a RPG, here in our living room, it is broken...

When it works we love it...

We call it fun!!!

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:18 am

Way more possibilities than any other Bethesda game out there....

No... end of story. Interpret that how you will, but no, you're wrong.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:26 am

Too RPG = Casuals angry
Too Casual = RPG fans angry
Balance of Both = Casuals and RPG fans angry

It's impossible to please everyone.

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:38 pm

We define the player character, correct?

There are choices. (i.e.) Daedric quests

There are levels, skills and stats, abeit limited.

It's as much a RPG as Daggerfall, just different in how it accomplishes it.

RPG is a very wide range.

But what effects are seen for completing a Deadric quest? "Is that the star of asura? no it couldn't be!" I mean the game itself does very little to nothing for having completed most of these quests, other then maybe 1 NPC disappears or dies... the quests are very short stories in themselves but really see any major effects from doing anything...

Spoiler

In fallout 3, if you blow-up mega-ton you get a very disappointed father, you see Moira as a ghoul and you can get bounty hunters after your blood for it

In Skyrim you're having to make up the story yourself but you aren't fighting anybody over it...

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:44 am

No... end of story. Interpret that how you will, but no, you're wrong.

Well, that's your opinion, isn't it? Just as an RPG is whatever you think it is, it's your opinion.

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:07 pm

Who cares what "genre" it is? If a game is good, play it!

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:10 pm

meh, the last rpg bethesda made was morrowind...

If you want to get technical...

oblivion had a handicap. and Skyrim, has an over the top Handicap...

No imagination needed for those two games..