It wouldn't exist because the companies wouldn't exist to make them. And now the internet might screwed because governments can't seem to take a hint on when to but the [censored] out on matters that have nothing to do with them.

I meant to express my liking for Germany

Don't forget we can actually choose between different political parties, not like in other states where you can only choose between mid-right and far right. (based on the actual german political spectrum)

lol just pulling your leg man.

Charlie Chaplin once gave speech about faith in humanity. Its not entirely relevant to ACTA but it always makes me feel a bit better whenever I lose faith in humanity.
Bear in mind I selected the most relevant part. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcvjoWOwnn4&feature=related there is the full speech.

Even with all this nonsense going on theres still a lot of people with the right intentions trying to stop things like ACTA from happening. By stopping and taking an interest in it all of us have contributed in some small way.

hahaha, I wasn't sure, D=

Guess it's time to send angry emails to our MEPs.

I don't know who to write to. I get here http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/search.html then realise I have no idea who is actually worth contacting.

Could try asking the https://www.eff.org/. I'm sure they'd have some ideas on how to help with fighting it.

On a sidenote, next time you, the reader of this post, buys a Humble Indie Bundle, remember that part (or none, or all, if you so choose) of your payment goes to the EFF, so be generous if you can. They do, and have done for quite a while, a lot of work to defend the internet and its users.

And it's not just ACTA you have to worry about. http://www.lawfont.com/2011/03/11/us-proposals-for-ip-in-the-trans-pacific-partnership-leaked/! http://keionline.org/node/1091. Oh, and Europe's not a party to Pacific-only agreements, so it can't intervene where it would otherwise.

Not to derail the thread. Just thought it bears pointing out that countries are constantly making agreements without the public's knowledge. It's not the end of the world, or the internet.

I suspect it just means that a few years from now, there will be significantly less couch potatoes! (Also, more readers. Yay books.)

If I remember right. The courts in Canada have already ruled that you can share all the music and videos you want in Canada and not face fines or imprisonment.

I haven't read the full bill but I saw nothing about censoring the internet in that bill. Also there is another bill thats going though that was going to make having a link to a restricted site illegal. That was taken out because it caused a huge fit. So if there was a bill anything like SOPA in Canada I am sure I would have learned of it by now.

Well, of course they are. They have centralized executive power over large sums of money, so they can hire a ton of lobbyists to browbeat congress into passing the laws they want passed. How many lobbyists do you have?

I will now put in motion to create a new bill: The ACTA Bill (America, Cut the Acronyms).

[insert massive amounts of legal jargon that no one will read nor understand even if they were to read it]

All in favor of the bill say "I"

Then stop buying their products and they stop making money. Why does everyone seem to think that companies are evil? They aren't. Read my sig. for the real threat.

I didn't say they were evil. I said they have a lot more political power than individuals. I would also add that the way they use it is oftentimes hidden from the public for good reason. This is really undeniable. "Evil" implies that a corporation can have malicious intent, which is ridiculous. They exist to make money, and if they need to influence politics to do so (and are allowed to) they will...it's just their nature.

By the way, a lot of the most politically active organizations don't sell products for people to stop buying in the first place. The idea that any corporate entity can be stopped by a concerted effort on the part of consumers is a fallacy. Real money and control is kept far away from points of contact with things as unpredicable as the general public. The only way to prevent them from unfairly influencing politics is to reform their relationship with politicians. I won't say anything more than that since political discussions aren't allowed here.

As far as your sig...if you think there's only one threat to worry about you're overlooking a lot.

Government is just a word, an idea. Like any good idea, it is fallible, corruptable. Many people represent the face of the government. Soldiers, librarians, social workers, and so on. The question is 'What kind of regime is it?' Sometimes an autocratic regime is better than a democratic one, and vice versa. To label 'all government is evil' is ludicrious. But I really want to stop while I'm being vague since as Softnerd said, it's a touchy line between 'general politics' and 'detailed politics' around here.

That's what I thought as well. I know there are several programs available for pirates that mask IP's to make them look like their from Canada. As we have some great privacy laws here.

At least as far as I know, ISP's here are not allowed to look at what you download.

Canada did not give us the right to share music and videos that are illegal such as movie's still in theaters or music that has been copyright by another owner

The exact solution is the same thing that happened in the US, inform as many people as possible about how bad the bill is.

Internet "Pirates" will always exist. It is impossible to stop them. What needs to happen is crackdown on Hackers and non-rpg modders (like you're modded controller for call of duty, and you're aimbots and the like). The same applies to those who use the internet to get our information. If these real threats to the internets were hunted, then theoretically, there would be less "pirates"

Dayumn.
Probs gonna be passed.

I'd give people my music for free, so I don't even care because they got it for free. Anyway, eventually one of these ridiculous bills are going to pass, and there will be riots people. There will be riots, and disorder, and we don't want that now, do we? /goldenitalianvoice.
Vote for Tom Dobbs, he is our true savior.

But you can share music and movies you legally bought.

At least that is my understanding.

Oh don't worry, I've hunted hagiis before and lived, those vertically defect bears won't stop my hide tanning.
That was the original choice since I could possibly find Nemo, but the prices were a bit expensive.

Whaa...Oh right on topic, yeah bad censorship, stupid contagious Uhmexica

I ACTA kick this Bill in it's hairy [censored]