SOPA, PIPA, ACTA and other assorted Internet censorship.

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:27 pm

http://amana07.deviantart.com/gallery/26064552?offset=48#/d48g8m7

In all honesty i'm wondering what bug crawled up these people's hind quarters to get them on this kick. There is really something more to all of this than simple "Control" of created content. In all honesty I think the "government" and the RIAA/MPA want to go back to older times when recording devices weren't even around. You listened to a song you listened to the song that was it. Talking about playing songs on the jukebox paying a quarter to listen, or paying X amount of dollars to see a movie.

There is a fine line between necessary money/wealth for compensation and greediness. Think the RIAA/MPA/Whatever got on a turbocharged rocket sled and went FAR past that line that was labeled "Compensation/Greed".
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:06 pm

hypothetically speaking, if some one in todays time owned the patent and rights to the design of the wheel, they would not be allowed to controll who has and does not have the right to manufacture, sell and market every wheel in the world.

real life non hypothetical example: windsheild wipers and fire extinguishers, there was a point [you might have seen the movie about it] where some one fought for his rights to the concept the windshield wiper and ultimately lost because the courts ruled that you can't have absolute finaincial controll over something that is vital or that nearly every one in the world uses. [idk if fireextinguishers have any parrellel history with windshield wipers in this regard but i put them as an example of a vital safety tool of which an individual would certainly not be allowed to have absolute control over their use]

how this applies to the internet is similair, [granted there is a difference between pirated software and open source], you cannot allow one group to decide how and for what the internet is used for, good or bad.

also, if your going to shut down places for no other provocation than they MIGHT sell stolen goods, then you would have to apply that standard to every pawn shop in america, other wise you are obviously making a double standard.
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Dylan Markese
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:41 pm

this is much worse then SOPA... the US government already signed it without even releasing this information to the public
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Meghan Terry
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 9:52 am

:yawn: I don't care anymore, I'm gonna go play my pacman machine down the arcade....
Good citizen.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:52 pm

Just want to say, http://www.megaupload.com/ has been blocked. Looks legit. ...It has already begun.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:51 am

Curious I was just about to post this but it goes to show that bills like this can have an overarching effects on world wide politics whereby everyone can be effected when more nations decide to implement these measures (and the unwarranted power of special interest groups I.E. Lobbyists).

https://www.eff.org/issues/acta
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:16 pm

I've lost all faith in Humanity.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:08 am

Quite frankly, if I had a work that was under copyrights I wouldn't want to be giving it out for free, I'd want to earn money off of it, I created it, I poured blood, sweat and tears into it, why should you get it for free?
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:11 am

That does it. I want passage off this planet. Now.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:30 pm

Quite frankly, if I had a work that was under copyrights I wouldn't want to be giving it out for free, I'd want to earn money off of it, I created it, I poured blood, sweat and tears into it, why should you get it for free?
I don't think you understand what this exactly is, or maybe I'm missing something here. :confused: It won't stop piracy or all copyright infringement. It will just cause troubles for the average PC user.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:57 am

Why the world ends in December:
Angry Protester protest international government stupidity.
With the Internet horribly mangled beyond anything we could regocnize today, they have nowhere to protest but on the streets.

The world is thrown into chaos, governments disband and society, unable to fix the Internet slowly regress to a primitive state and slowly die out.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:48 am

Carrying out all the copyright infringement cases for every single individual still seems like an absurd amount of work, so I doubt this is going to work out as well as they planned.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:15 am


I don't think you understand what this exactly is, or maybe I'm missing something here. :confused: It won't stop piracy. It will just cause troubles for the average PC user.
Nothing stops piracy, that's obvious, but you can stem the tide.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:50 am

Nothing stops piracy, that's obvious, but you can stem the tide.

Not with this. This is like dropping a nuke to kill a fly.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:32 pm

Nothing stops piracy, that's obvious, but you can stem the tide.
Still, it doesn't help. YouTube will pretty much be taken down, won't it? It will hurt legit businesses because of "free advertisemant" that people put up (Let's Plays and probably product-previews) and a bunch of other bad stuff.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:09 pm

I think the most disgusting thing is how the governments pushing ACTA are keeping people in the dark. That governments are conducting secret negotiations and pretend to represent us. That they must keep it a secret tells us its horrible news for the public. Democracy can only function when the public has access to sufficient information to form their own opinion. Democratic values are incompatible with such secrecy.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:57 am

While its true that this may not be the way to go about it, you must realize that sooner rather than
later you are going to Have to give up your "right" to free [censored] on the Internet.

What needs to happen is that we need to propose ideas to our governnt official rather than [censored]ing and moaning every time one of these comes up. Those that are in seats of power obviously don't known how to go about battling online piracy so they do only what they know how, outlawing everything related to it.

Now imagine if those of us with the knowledge of the innerworkings of these processes came forward with actual legitimate ways to stem the tide of piracy, that is democracy, that is what it means to take part, not protesting but helping. You will never see it happen because you all can't live without your free music and free movies and whatnots.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:44 pm

It's almost like they want people to stop consuming their entertainment. Is that a challenge? :P I already don't watch much TV or movies, or play many video games.

I like my music, but I've always paid for that, anyway. Now I may not. Looks like I'll have to start a Brotherhood of the Travelling USB/CD/iPad.

Also, Internets? Who cares about it? There are these things called wi-fi and local, personally hosted servers.

We don't need your entertainment or your internet, Leeches, Inc. Do keep that in mind when you try to kick us around.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:17 am

While its true that this may not be the way to go about it, you must realize that sooner rather than
later you are going to Have to give up your "right" to free [censored] on the Internet.

What needs to happen is that we need to propose ideas to our governnt official rather than [censored]ing and moaning every time one of these comes up. Those that are in seats of power obviously don't known how to go about battling online piracy so they do only what they know how, outlawing everything related to it.

Now imagine if those of us with the knowledge of the innerworkings of these processes came forward with actual legitimate ways to stem the tide of piracy, that is democracy, that is what it means to take part, not protesting but helping. You will never see it happen because you all can't live without your free music and free movies and whatnots.
We wouldn't be heard. The government doesn't want to stop piracy or copyright infringement... they want to block the internet.


Now, who was it that was going to build some internetz in their basemant? Cookies to whoever finishes it first.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:34 am

While its true that this may not be the way to go about it, you must realize that sooner rather than
later you are going to Have to give up your "right" to free [censored] on the Internet.

What needs to happen is that we need to propose ideas to our governnt official rather than [censored]ing and moaning every time one of these comes up. Those that are in seats of power obviously don't known how to go about battling online piracy so they do only what they know how, outlawing everything related to it.

Now imagine if those of us with the knowledge of the innerworkings of these processes came forward with actual legitimate ways to stem the tide of piracy, that is democracy, that is what it means to take part, not protesting but helping. You will never see it happen because you all can't live without your free music and free movies and whatnots.

You're kidding, right? Just because we oppose some ham-fisted bill that will literally kill the internet (not hyperbole, by the way, because pretty much every popular site will be gone) doesn't make us pirates.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:23 pm

We wouldn't be heard. The government doesn't want to stop piracy or copyright infringement... they want to block the internet.


Now, who was it that was going to build some internetz in their basemant? Cookies to whoever finishes it first.

I'll donate a cookie also. Make sure the goverment knows nothing!
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:34 am

These stupid acts are just tiring me now... and I'm afraid it'll do the same for other people, and the stand up against SOPA moment that occurred throughout the internet previously won't happen again.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:23 pm


We wouldn't be heard. The government doesn't want to stop piracy or copyright infringement... they want to block the internet.


Now, who was it that was going to build some internetz in their basemant? Cookies to whoever finishes it first.
you will be heard if you speak up, imagine if the people/sites that protested SOPA came forward with an idea of their own to help. Oh and that was Old Andy btw.



You're kidding, right? Just because we oppose some ham-fisted bill that will literally kill the internet (not hyperbole, by the way, because pretty much every popular site will be gone) doesn't make us pirates.
I don't think you actually read wha I posted...
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:23 am

https://www.eff.org/press/archives/2009/01/29. It may have only just been signed, but it's been brewing for quite a while now... too bad we (the general populous, the demos if you want to get all Greek) have virtually no awareness of or involvement with our governance. I don't blame politicians for that, I don't blame the government, I don't blame 'The Man'; I blame us, all of us, every man*. It is the individual that gives the whole its power, it is the individual that is ultimately responsible, even in this system of ours which passes it between people and groups again and again until we almost forget responsibility exists at all, let alone that it still belongs to us.

*And woman.

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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:16 am

https://www.eff.org/press/archives/2009/01/29. It may have only just been signed, but it's been brewing for quite a while now... too bad we (the general populous, the demos if you want to get all Greek) have virtually no awareness of or involvement with our governance. I don't blame politicians for that, I don't blame the government, I don't blame 'The Man'; I blame us, all of us, every man*.

I knew about it last year. Sent info to a few news websites and law professors. Nothing.

:shrug:

I did my part. It's not my fault if everyone else doesn't care.
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