Star Wars Episode VII

Post » Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:46 am

He was the director, but there were lots of unit directors too and Fran Walsh also directed few scenes. He had the final say on everything and he did give lots of advice, but he couldn't be everywhere at once. I'm not saying that he isn't good at romance or that nerdy people can't write or direct proper romance(Joss Whedon), but Phillipa Boyens did say in an interview on the box set that he generally left the romance to Fran and her while they let him handle the fights and battles.
Again, and?

It was said "nerdy people shouldn't be anywhere near a romantic storyline."

Jackson and Whedon change that.

Lucas just svcks.
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Post » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:16 pm

Again, and?

It was said "nerdy people shouldn't be anywhere near a romantic storyline."

Jackson and Whedon change that.

Lucas just svcks.
I know, but I wasn't responding to what Oof said. I was just being incredibly pedantic and showing off my knowledge of the Lord of the RIngs. :hehe:
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Post » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:46 pm

I hated that Arwen and aragon sub-plot, they should have stuck with grade-a badass glofidnel taking on all the Nazgul himself.
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Post » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:22 pm

Jackson

... is terrible at romance. Look at what he did to King Kong.

Joss Whedon

... is not a real nerd. He's just a normal guy that happens to be very passionate about some nerdy things.

Again, the only reason the first Star Wars trilogy worked was because Lucas's then-wife a. did amazing editing on them, and b. was able to tell George "no" when he had particularly dumb/lacklustre ideas.
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Post » Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:48 am

Oh no!. NO! Star Wars will be...just like it was before: designed for kiddies.
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Post » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:23 am


... is not a real nerd. He's just a normal guy that happens to be very passionate about some nerdy things.



Riiiiiiight....
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Post » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:05 pm

Notice how almost everything you've mentioned is old. Almost all of his characters of the past ten years are as I've described them: camp + weird English accent.
Yeah, that must mean he has no versatility as an actor /sarcasm,

Also, the reason most of his roles recently are camp/english accent is because they are kids/family films. I'm guessing he just has fun doing them.

Heaps of actors goes through a period of awesomeness, then camp or family films, and then have a rennaisance

I thought he was good in rum diary.
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Post » Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:47 pm

Transformers, I agree with you on, but Spiderman 1 & 2 were all right; and Avatar, as hackneyed as it is, is at least competent, which is something that can't be said for the Star Wars prequel trilogy.

I have to disagree, all of the Spiderman films had bad writing in my opinion, and even worse acting. Not being a fan of Marvel Comics I went into the first three Spiderman films with zero expectations, and I didn't find any of them worthwhile. I haven't seen the new one, so I can't comment on it, but I feel the same way about all Marvel films I've seen, and this includes the much lauded Iron Man flicks, neither of which I enjoyed at all (though they at least had better acting than the Spiderman trilogy). I should probably stay away from comic book movies, the only ones I've liked were the Tim Burton and Christopher Nolan Batman films, Watchmen too.

In regards to Avatar, it had much of the same problems as the Star Wars prequels, mediocre writing, bad romance, bad acting, too much emphasis on pretty CGI. Maybe calling it worse than the prequels is a bit extreme, but I wouldn't call it any better either.

Again I didn't find the Star Wars prequels bad, not exceptional either, just mediocre. Compared to most of the garbage that comes out of Hollywood, the Star Wars prequels are fairly average. I wouldn't call them as good as let alone better than the best sci-fi\fantasy films that have come out in the last decade, but I wouldn't call them as bad as or worse than the worst either. The prequels are decent enough, and I'd argue that they're competent enough, and I for one actually enjoyed them despite their many flaws, which is more than I can say for Avatar.
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Post » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:32 am

Am giving the benefit of doubt to Disney.

I can't stop thinking about Mickey mouse with a light saber and dress in a set of Jedi robes. May the force be with them.
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Post » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:00 pm

The more interesting thing here is that people seem to want an endless churn of sequels ... I'd argue that if a franchise is to have any worth, it should be allowed to die on a high note. Star Wars could have done without the prequels; or, at the least, the prequels should have been executed properly, and then GL should have let the whole thing die, including collectibles, video games, cartoons, books ...

Disney, and everyone that has licences to Marvel property, are going to devalue that entire line of IPs, if they keep tossing out slop.

I feel the same way about all Marvel films I've seen, and this includes the much lauded Iron Man flicks

Iron Man 1 is the only one that's above mediocre. I agree with you on the rest.

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... is Pocahontas with smurfs. What did you expect? All of its worth hangs on a gimmick-- 3D-- which can't really be experienced properly outside of a cinema. But in the cinema, that movie is a visual glory. It doesn't have anything else going for it.
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Post » Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:00 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJlbPXZEpRE
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Post » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:11 am

http://www.imdb.com/list/Q1ngX-Z8UL0/ - Well, that was funny, but I think I can come up with a better cast for A New Hope remake.

Luke Skywalker - Ed Speleers
Obi-Wan Kenobi - Jeremy Irons
Princess Leia - Sienna Guillory
Darth Vader - John Malkovich
Han Solo - Garrett Hedlund
Grand Moff Tarkin - Robert Carlyle
Uncle Lars - Alun Armstrong
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Post » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:05 am

http://www.imdb.com/list/Q1ngX-Z8UL0/
The only good part of that list is Jim Parsons as C3-PO. There's no way in hell that I could ever take Luke Skywalker with a hint of seriousness if he was played by Zac Efron.
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Post » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:52 pm

The only good part of that list is Jim Parsons as C3-PO. There's no way in hell that I could ever take Luke Skywalker with a hint of seriousness if he was played by Zac Efron.
Ewan Macgregor could play Obi Wan.
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Post » Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:50 am

The only good part of that list is Jim Parsons as C3-PO. There's no way in hell that I could ever take Luke Skywalker with a hint of seriousness if he was played by Zac Efron.
And what's with snubbing James Earl Jones (yet keeping Frank Oz...?) :tongue:

Oh wait, this guy must've liked Transformers. That explains it. Poor lad.
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Post » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:56 am

I can even imagine Disney churning out some form of Live Action TV series for the Disney Channel.
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Post » Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:03 pm

The more interesting thing here is that people seem to want an endless churn of sequels ... I'd argue that if a franchise is to have any worth, it should be allowed to die on a high note. Star Wars could have done without the prequels; or, at the least, the prequels should have been executed properly, and then GL should have let the whole thing die, including collectibles, video games, cartoons, books ...

There were some pretty darn good Star Wars video games that came out during the 90s and early 00s, though, and some of them were actually innovative as opposed to watered down clones of successful IPs, so I'm glad that he didn't just let the franchise die. I heart TIE Fighter, greatest Star Wars game/space sim ever.

Disney, and everyone that has licences to Marvel property, are going to devalue that entire line of IPs, if they keep tossing out slop.

I do agree with this though, I'd take a single exceptional movie over a single exceptional movie that is cheapened by a series of shameless cash in sequels any day. There are some sequels that do their predecessors justice, and there are certainly some excellent film trilogies out there, but these are the exception as opposed to the rule. Disney has never been particularly good at delivering satisfying sequels, and while I usually admire persistence, it's getting a little ridiculous at this point. Has anyone here ever seen a Disney sequel that wasn't just mediocre?

Iron Man 1 is the only one that's above mediocre. I agree with you on the rest.

Now see I didn't even like that one, Robert Downey Junior did a fairly good job at making the protagonist likable, but outside of that the film was pretty 'meh.

... is Pocahontas with smurfs. What did you expect? All of its worth hangs on a gimmick-- 3D-- which can't really be experienced properly outside of a cinema. But in the cinema, that movie is a visual glory. It doesn't have anything else going for it.

More Dances with Wolves, but my point still stands.
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Post » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:39 pm

I can even imagine Disney churning out some form of Live Action TV series for the Disney Channel.
Anyone else hear of Lucases plans to make a live action Star Wars TV Series for advlts? It was going to be set between ROTS and ANH and be a Sopranos style show about spice smugglers iirc.

I don't know about you, but if I'm watching a set when the Galactic Empire is kicking ass left right and centre, I'm not interested in any kind of spice smuggling that doesn't star Han Solo.

Has anyone here ever seen a Disney sequel that wasn't just mediocre?
Do Pixar films count?
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Post » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:37 pm

There were some pretty darn good Star Wars video games that came out during the 90s and early 00s, though, and some of them were actually innovative as opposed to watered down clones of successful IPs, so I'm glad that he didn't just let the franchise die. I &--#60;3 TIE Fighter, best Star Wars game/space sim ever.
Not to mention KOTOR, Dark Forces (and Jedi Knight) and even Rebellion/Supremacy. And Star Wars Galaxies, one of the last true MMORPGs (with emphasis on the RP... at least before it got butchered.)
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Post » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:31 pm

I honestly don't really know what to expect. I think it could go either way I guess. As long as they do not put any musical numbers into it...I will be happy.

Sometimes I wish it was left alone at 4-6, but I did enjoy the new movies. Not as much as the old ones of course, but they were still fun to watch.
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Post » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:06 am

Do Pixar films count?

Sure, I don't have much experience with Pixar's work myself as I prefer traditional animation over CG animation. Still, Disney probably has the longest list of sub par sequels in the industry even if some of Pixar's stuff is decent.

Not to mention KOTOR, Dark Forces (and Jedi Knight) and even Rebellion/Supremacy. And Star Wars Galaxies, one of the last true MMORPGs (with emphasis on the RP... at least before it got butchered.)

Indeed, and there's a few others but X-Wing, TIE Fighter, X-Wing Alliance, Knights of the Old Republic, Knights of the Old Republic II, Dark Forces and Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight/Mysteries of the Sith are probably the best Star Wars games out there. As far as licensed games go, the Star Wars franchise had a pretty good run until the late 00s where LucasArts started pumping out nothing but bargain bin material, not that every Star Wars game prior to that was gold.

Rebellion was pretty good if you could keep up with its pace. Not sure if making the game real time was the greatest idea, traditionally 4X games are turn based, and for a very good reason. Unfortunately I haven't been able to install the game since upgrading to 64 bit operating systems, which is a shame as I'd really like to give it another go. Sadly I don't think anyone has bothered to program a 64 bit installer for Rebellion like they have for Jedi Knight and its expansion.
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Post » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:05 pm

Ewan Macgregor could play Obi Wan.

He's a great---no---excellent choice for Obi Wan Kenobi, if only Geroge wrote a better scrpt for him during the prequels Ewan would have been perfect.
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Post » Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:58 pm

Do Pixar films count?

Disney (animation studios, or anything else with the name Disney on it) has no creative input in Pixar Studios. And thank god for that.
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Post » Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:06 pm

http://www.imdb.com/list/Q1ngX-Z8UL0/ - Well, that was funny, but I think I can come up with a better cast for A New Hope remake.

Luke Skywalker - Ed Speleers
Obi-Wan Kenobi - Jeremy Irons
Princess Leia - Sienna Guillory
Darth Vader - John Malkovich
Han Solo - Garrett Hedlund
Grand Moff Tarkin - Robert Carlyle
Uncle Lars - Alun Armstrong

NO! No damned reboot. Do 7, 8, 9 and if it goes well 10, 11, 12. Then put OT away and never consider making another one ever again.

As for Johnny Dep did reprise his role as Tommy Hansen in the 21 Jump Street movie.
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Post » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:57 pm

I wonder if Leia will be added to Disney's princess range? ;)
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