Still think Destruction is balanced VS. Archery 1-handed Mel : V

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:31 pm

So after watching these videos, I am convinced that this game is utterly broken when it comes to balance.

Melee is way stronger than magic could ever be. It's just the fact that Enchanting, Blacksmithing, and Alchemy are CATERED for Melee types it's not even funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOSw36zv7YI

Sneak is also horribly broken.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKP26gbQ7II

Enjoy the game breakingness.

» Mon May 14, 2012 4:21 am

Beth will fix it. I believe in them LOL

» Mon May 14, 2012 6:29 am

Who gives a crap? This isn't WoW and you're not competing in PVP on Skyrim.

» Mon May 14, 2012 12:03 pm

Cool, doesn't mean my mage will suddenly pick up a sword because it's "better"

» Mon May 14, 2012 9:06 am

Who gives a crap? This isn't WoW and you're not competing in PVP on Skyrim.

But isn't this [censored]? He's not even max level overall character wise.

This is just with max smithing and enchant. His 1 handed is 50. It's unbelievably overpowered.

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:49 pm

So after watching these videos, I am convinced that this game is utterly broken when it comes to balance.

Melee is way stronger than magic could ever be. It's just the fact that Enchanting, Blacksmithing, and Alchemy are CATERED for Melee types it's not even funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOSw36zv7YI

Sneak is also horribly broken.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKP26gbQ7II

Enjoy the game breakingness.

Thanks, I am very much so.

» Mon May 14, 2012 9:47 am

Who gives a crap? This isn't WoW and you're not competing in PVP on Skyrim.

Obviously a lot of people care, so your question is pointless.

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:54 pm

If we're comparing this to destruction, the argument is negated by one word: Impact. Probably the most OP perk in the game, and you don't need max anything to use it.

» Mon May 14, 2012 12:18 pm

Two other comments are fair ones...

But, doesn't it serve the person right for maxing out sneak and one-handed? Also, correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't level scaling work differently in Skyrim. Another thing, the game was released on Friday and it looks as though that person is very close to level cap ifnot already there - what a waste of a purchase...

» Mon May 14, 2012 1:11 pm

Balance. Single player game.

Does not compute. Does not compute.

You can have fun a million different ways, and none of them affect anyone else's gameplay experience. Working as intended.

» Mon May 14, 2012 4:18 pm

People max out certain perks and then complain the game is not balanced? I thought this game was play how you want to play?

I find crafting terribly tedious. What if I don't bother maxxing out those skills?

» Mon May 14, 2012 6:08 am

Who gives a crap? This isn't WoW and you're not competing in PVP on Skyrim.

People who like balanced combat.

» Mon May 14, 2012 2:09 pm

I actually quite like that sneak has been improved as it makes up for the lack of the chameleon spell. It's nothing you couldn't do with spells in the other games ("Hello, is someone there?" from random NPCs in town when you forgot to take your chamelon gear off) and I prefer that it be a skill rather than magic. It suits the sneaky player better.

» Mon May 14, 2012 5:24 pm

It's hard to understand why people are complaining about this. This game doesn't need balance at all, every play style just needs to be viably able to beat the game and I'm finding it is so far. Pretty much all single player games with multiple paths suffer from this and it has never really been a problem considering there is no pressure to play at the very best level of play.

How does this hurt anyone in anyway?

» Mon May 14, 2012 5:25 am

Two other comments are fair ones...

But, doesn't it serve the person right for maxing out sneak and one-handed? Also, correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't level scaling work differently in Skyrim - the reason I ask [spoiler] That Dragon is close to Whiterun, i.e one of the first places you come to. Another thing, the game was released on Friday and it looks as though that person is very close to level cap ifnot already there - what a waste of a purchase...

He hasn't even maxed out 1 handed. This with purely enchanting and blacksmithing and sneak.

Balance. Single player game.

Does not compute. Does not compute.

You can have fun a million different ways, and none of them affect anyone else's gameplay experience. Working as intended.

Working as intended to 1 shot dragons right? He didn't even finish absorbing the dragon soul before he killed the other guy.

This video goes to prove that if you Smithing + Enchanting is just way too strong.

Sure, play it how you want, but when it takes you 20 minutes with destruction magic to kill a single dragon on master difficulty, as opposed to .5 seconds in melee, you know that feels terrible.

» Mon May 14, 2012 1:12 pm

He hasn't even maxed out 1 handed. This with purely enchanting and blacksmithing and sneak.

Okay... Don't use an enchated weapon, or craft your own weapons or sneak? I am sorry, but I didn't realise we were force to do those things! (This is not directed at you, but to the creater of that video).

Finding it too easy? Lower your armour by a grade, or your weapons. Play by house rules, like myself. Finding it too hard? Try another tact. I don't mind people sharing thier problems, not at all, but it aggrovates me when some people insta-come-to-the-forums-and-whine before trying something different - i.e the people who have been playing none-stop since Friday

» Mon May 14, 2012 2:36 pm

What if you WANT to max enchanting & smithing and becoming ridiculously OP without intending or wanting to?

» Mon May 14, 2012 1:28 am

What if you WANT to max enchanting & smithing and becoming ridiculously OP without intending or wanting to?

Then wait for the patches and mods to roll in?

» Mon May 14, 2012 2:29 pm

Balance. Single player game.

Does not compute. Does not compute.

You can have fun a million different ways, and none of them affect anyone else's gameplay experience. Working as intended.

Immersion. RPG.

Herp derp more.

» Mon May 14, 2012 5:34 pm

Okay... Don't use an enchated weapon, or craft your own weapons or sneak? I am sorry, but I didn't realise we were force to do those things! (This is not directed at you, but to the creater of that video).

Finding it too easy? Lower your armour by a grade, or your weapons. Play by house rules, like myself. Finding it too hard? Try another tact. I don't mind people sharing thier problems, not at all, but it aggrovates me when some people insta-come-to-the-forums-and-whine before trying something different - i.e the people who have been playing none-stop since Friday

You honestly make no sense to me.

Why would you GIVE UP your better gear if it becomes too easy? That feels terrible, to give up your good weapons to "make the game feel balanced".

The point of this thread is to give spotlight to the how unbalanced Smithing and Enchanting are. Is it ok for them to be this broken?

» Mon May 14, 2012 7:18 am

Ultimately that shows that warriors are over powered

I'm just going to get on with my game as a mage, I'm really enjoying it

» Mon May 14, 2012 4:38 am

You honestly make no sense to me.

Why would you GIVE UP your better gear if it becomes too easy? That feels terrible, to give up your good weapons to "make the game feel balanced".

The point of this thread is to give spotlight to the how unbalanced Smithing and Enchanting are. Is it ok for them to be this broken?

Sorry, you are making no-sense. You say you are sheding light on the imbalance, so I assumed you felt it was unbalaced. Ergo, I decided to shed light on how to balance your gameplay untill a patch or mods come out, etc...

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:48 pm

Just try sneaking with daggers + the x2 backstab damage gloves. enjoy your x30 damage instant kills!

» Mon May 14, 2012 6:10 am

Sorry, you are making no-sense. You say you are sheding light on the imbalance, so I assumed you felt it was unbalaced. Ergo, I decided to shed light on how to balance your gameplay untill a patch or mods come out, etc...

I truly doubt Bethesda will patch this. They would have to do a large re-work to bring Magic up few notches, and Melee down.

» Mon May 14, 2012 5:16 am

Yar it's like Strong ~~~~~thing ~~~~ thing ~~~~~ thing ~~~~~ thing ~~~~~ weak in damage potential.

I wish I could gather together everyone who tries to be more powerful on a solo rpg, and ignore them from life permanently.