I've played the DLC for a total of 18 hours nows. And both Riverwood and Whiterun are devoid of non essential NPC's. They are not over exaggerating, a master vampire 1 hit's a non guard before I even get the chance to draw my bow.

But that;'s not even the majority of the games. That's just yours. The whole damn expansion isn't like that.

That helps....now just the non starting part would be cool....I have several characters that I don't plan on running thru dg

Well I beat the MQ, and haven't gone to any other towns out of fear. I first fast traveled to Riverwood straight after DLing the DLC. (I went to pick up Meeko, I had left him in Riverwood) When it loaded, so did 3 Master vampires and a few hounds. Ofcourse Meeko was the first die, he always attacks everything no matter what. Then, shortly after, the rest of the NPC's were dead. Whiterun's been attacked 4 times now. I'm going to have to play a lvl10 character on novice if I want to save the NPC's. I usually play on Master as I'm lvl 81. I wouldn't find it fun to be lvl 10 on novice again...

well i broke down and bought it
the ratings on the dlc are not really that good not too bad either
but i have a save pre dlc and i will go back to that
when i finish the dlc [will delelete it] and go back to an earlier save
i do not care for it
vampires look really stupid.. their dogs are just ok
want a real hellhound? try dragons dogma... they breath fire

dragon attacks increased dramatically... now i get a dragon attack every city and sometimes two at once

then the vampire attacks killing off the npc... nah not for me
i fixed that by fast traveling to a spot outside the city and waiting until dawn if it is dark
there needs to be a safe zone

and folks the attacks are NOT RARE

thingi will play red dead redemption
get on my horse and just watch the sun set
yeah did that a lot in that game
no one attacking me either



let me go back to OBLIVION!!
not sure how this is elder scrolls

No one ever said the attacks are "rare", we've said that they're random. Which they are.

I agree, the invansions should only start when you start the questline, but there are so many people exaggerating that it is not even funny.

But if that is what they have experienced, then that is what they have experienced. You can't dismiss it simply because that hasn't happened to you or even to most players. If it is happening just to a significant minority, then that is an issue.
There are many bugs I've heard about but never experienced myself and maybe most people didn't - but that didn't mean they weren't a problem and didn't need to be patched. You seem to be determined to dismiss anyone's reports that their towns have been annihilated.

I'm not dismissing it. I'm saying that they're over-exaggerating it as more reports have come in that really states that it isn't as bad. But just by reading the posts, I can tell that they don't really like the new feature. But the problem is, rather than just leave it as "I don't really care for it", they're making it sound vastly worse than it is.

If someone doesn't like a new feature, fine. But don't over-exaggerate it simply for the sake of trying to make it sound like the worst thing ever.

A little perspective.

That's what this restaurant needs. Perspective.

You say you see more and more reports coming in stating that it's "not that bad". What if THEY"RE the ones over exaggerating as not to scare people away from the DLC? And in reality, their world is dead and lifeless?

Kind of hard to take complaints seriously when you have people posting that they have dragons attacking every single time they step into a city, and sometimes two dragons attack at once, and then at the same time say they have constant vampire attacks.

That's the Catch 22 now isn't it...

How do you know they're exaggerating? The blunt fact is in my games dragon attacks are pretty rare. I think that's a combination of infrequent fast travel, only ever having got about halfway through the MQ and never taking a character beyond the mid 40s. Whatever, I don't see many dragon attacks. When people complain they're plagued by them, I don't think they're exaggerating, I think they're having a different experience to me. Partly due to playstyle concerning such factors as those I've just mentioned and partly because for some weird reason people do seem to have fairly varied experiences with Bethesda games, I guess because of all the complex variables at play with the open world system. You seem blanketly unable to accept people are having a different experience to you. If someone says "I lost X amount of people in Whiterun", how is that exaggerating? They're lying about how many?
To you it probably isn't an issue. To many other people it seems to be. I don't get why you cannot accept people are having a different experience to yourself.

Yeah, that would be a lot better.

10 in a row is rare? With enemies that can one-hit-kill civilians?

I'd deal with them if it were possible. Sometimes they spawn by the gate I enter into, but usually they're in the middle of town with a pile of bodies before I can even see them.

Casting Slow Time and sweeping the whole map every time I enter a town or exit a building isn't fun. Dawnguard isn't fun.

It could be incredible, but this nuisance is far too unbearable.

I've stopped playing Skyrim until the next patch hoping that will fix a lot of issues with Dawnguard. If it doesn't then I'll continue to wait.

I've had some characters have 2 dragons show up often and some with none at all. Not everyone's game is the same. I had a master vamp show and a challenger too. I've had no dragons since I didn't do MQ with this character.

In all the time I have spent with the DLC I have had maybe 7-10 vampire attacks on a city. Weeks of play with only 10 attacks. That is less then 1 attack a day (and I play all day every day) Then you have people saying in two days entire cities have been wiped out..... What would be the goal of a person "exaggerating as to not scare people away from the DLC" exactly? I do however see a clear goal of people who dont like the feature exaggerating to get it removed, it happens all the time on forums.

What is this? A poem? Please, type normally also try to speak coherently and structurally I honestly can't understand half all of what you're saying.

Surprisingly enough. The ONLY dragon attack I've had since the start of the DLC was in the "Forgotten Vale" And well, that was a scripted event. But the Vampires do seem to have a fetish for attacking towns directly in my game though. :/

The vampire attacks should never have happened in the cities to begin with. Vampires should have just attacked guards at the gates or close to unwalled cities in an attempt to get in. Also random attacks on the player while out exploring. The cities should not be battle grounds, I go to cities to shop, get quests, turn in quests, smith, etc. And I hate that cities that are already under populated will soon have no population.

How bad something is depends on what someone percieves as bad. Maybe Uriel Nocturne doesn't mind that his towns are empty but a lot of people do mind and don't want to babysit them constantly. The fact that this topic is coming up so often speaks for itself and lo and behold it's the same person defending this feature in all of them.


Ever thought that English is not his first language? We arn't all linguistic experts like you are.

You know guys, it just hit me... "I used to be an adventurer like you, then I bought a DLC and got permanent guard duty whenever I go to town" hahah

For those who still believe this is a minor issue, watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v80gUzq6Ec8

While one vampire is being dispatched on one side of the town, it turns out that there is also a Master Vampire and a Death Hound on the other side. Gerdur and a guard got wiped out before the player could properly arrive on the scene.

Actually my towns are thriving and alive.

The City Guards in my game are outstanding and use the Vampire attackers as meat puppets every single time.