Is the Enclave coming back at all?

Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:24 am

Enclave already came back in Vegas. They kicked ass at Hoover Dam and disappeared into the sunset.

At least they did in my game.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:29 am

u don't really wipe out the enclave , i mean somebody with that kind of technology has to have multiple bases somewhere , but i guess they are on radio silence mode , same as the brotherhood chapter is in the mojave


No they are wiped out, get over it. The only place left is Chicago and that is most likely just a small outpost built on the way to DC.

Fallout 2 makes it clear that the only Enclave bases are the Oil Rig and Navarro. Oil Rig blew up and took the Enclave leadership with what had to be at least 90% of all the Enlcave. Fallout 3 tells us that there were no Enclave in the East till after the events of Fallout 2 and that those in DC came from Navarro. It also tells us that Eden became president because no one else was left that could be, confirming that the entire Enclave command structure was destroyed in Fallout 2. Fallout 3 they get blown up not once but twice! New Vegas tells us that Navarro fell to NCR after Augustus Sir left. Some Enclave stayed at Navarro to fight NCR and others gave up and tired to start a new life like the Remnants. Only to be hunted by BoS and NCR.

Enclave are dead and they arn't coming back in New Vegas and they should never come back as a major faction ever again.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:07 am

Look at it this way:

50% of the most popular Fallout games are centered on defeating the Enclave.

Popular != Good
Justin Bieber is popular too.
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Suzie Dalziel
 
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:41 am

I wouldn't mind seeing some old base with lots of experimental tech, but the whole place is abandoned... or is it?
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Annika Marziniak
 
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:35 pm

Some of you guys don't understand lore and canon of video games. Let me put it into perspective;

*im guessing most of you are CoD players -,-

Imagine if Viktor Reznov came back alive. You'd all be confused and think this makes no sense. actually i doubt that considering some of the unintelligent responses ive seen thrown around here.

the Enclave are Viktor Reznov; but even MORE overkill.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:53 am

Popular != Good


...Did you just imply that Fallout 2 isn't good? :huh:

Anyway, Fallout 4 will again be Bethesda's game, so don't worry, you'll have all the Enclave in the world to shoot :D
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:59 pm

do not inssult people just cuse they have divergente opinions, besides like i said before it doesen't has to be the enclave (we will probably either see them in the next games has remmanants or diferent faction all toguether) i think we do need to see something more interesting than tribals or someone trying to kill you with a macheti
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:56 pm

Some of you guys don't understand lore and canon of video games. Let me put it into perspective;

*im guessing most of you are CoD players -,-

Imagine if Viktor Reznov came back alive. You'd all be confused and think this makes no sense. actually i doubt that considering some of the unintelligent responses ive seen thrown around here.

the Enclave are Viktor Reznov; but even MORE overkill.


I don't understand this, who's Viktor Reznov?
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:09 am

...Did you just imply that Fallout 2 isn't good? :huh:

Anyway, Fallout 4 will again be Bethesda's game, so don't worry, you'll have all the Enclave in the world to shoot :D


Did you just imply that Bethesda are stupid morons completely incapable of making anything new? That they only thing they can do is just make the same game over and over again just with different graphics? That Bethesda fans are happy being spoon fed the same old crap over and over again?

I for one am going to give Bethesda some credit and say they will make something new.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:01 am

I don't understand this, who's Viktor Reznov?



that is a good question, tho he refered CoD so i assume it has something to with CoD :confused:
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:15 am

that is a good question, tho he refered CoD so i assume it has something to with CoD :confused:

I'm stating that once something has been killed and signed of. it shouldn't come back.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:16 pm

i agree, and that is good we woun't see CL again :rolleyes:
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:47 am

i agree, and that is good we woun't see CL again :rolleyes:


Legion were killed off?

Did the entire state of Arizona get nuked during Fallout New Vegas? :rolleyes:
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:12 am

i agree, and that is good we woun't see CL again :rolleyes:

You need to look up some fallout history. CL are much larger than the mojave.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:35 am

yes i know they are :thumbsup:
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:59 pm

I think one day, I will write a fallout book, and declare that fallout 3's broken steel was not canon. the enclave couldn't been destroyed by the brotherhood, the enclave was long set up by then, they came in 2257 (take or give.) and then, the enclave was there before, i see no [censored] enclave in the pentagon, they could of set up before the brotherhood of steel, fallout 3 is uncanon, and it's enclave is swisscheesed, there was no option to side with the enclave. sadly enough. there was no earlier button to summon a robotic army to kill the brotherhood of steel, nor was there a option to rig liberty prime to attack the brotherhood of steel.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:29 pm

Did you just imply that Bethesda are stupid morons completely incapable of making anything new? That they only thing they can do is just make the same game over and over again just with different graphics? That Bethesda fans are happy being spoon fed the same old crap over and over again?

I for one am going to give Bethesda some credit and say they will make something new.


Yes. Except not because they're "stupid morons", but because it works :hehe:

But seriously, have they done anything that wasn't TES (or "TES") recently? That's a pretty good indication on what direction they're going in future. Regardless i ain't complaining, their style works fine for me.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:47 am

Your opinion seems to be in the minority.


We're not Fallout 2 cool enough for the old timers.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:39 am

I think their should be but not like it was before... Ex: lets say like 10 enclave members reunite and go to and old base that was untouched... inside lies thousands of robots... They could simply power them all back on and their the enclave is back... It only takes a few to remake the Enclave..
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:46 am

I am okay with people liking and supporting them. I am just getting sick and tired when I have to bump into them every fethin' time.

How about the almighty Bethesda actually coming up with a *new* enemy faction? With power armors so they can satisfy your hunger for high-tier faceless baddies, hm?

I might suggest Circle of Steel if Obsidian didn't use their concept with nightkin.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:34 am

We're not Fallout 2 cool enough for the old timers.



Cool story bro
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:46 am

Look at it this way:

50% of the most popular Fallout games are centered on defeating the Enclave.

Actualy it 40% of the games

fallout: no enclave
fallout 2: enclave
fallout tactics: no enclave
fallout 3:enclave
fallout nv: there's a few but not centered

so 2 divide 5 = 0.4 X100 = 40%
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:46 am

I think its fairly safe to assume we'll see the Enclave again.
None of the other factions have the ties to the shady pre-war world that the enclave does.
It's just part of the game..

so you're saying having ties to the "shady pre-war world" requires a fraction to keep returning as the main enemy even though they've been destroyed twice(three times if you count broken steel)
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:17 am

Who says we have to fight them in a future Fallout game? The protagonist of the next one could be from the Enclave. It's sure as hell better than another Vault dweller and we've just done the above-average Joe idea.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:44 am

We're not Fallout 2 cool enough for the old timers.

You don't have to be old to have played Fallout 2; you have to be interested in Fallout, I for example was so hyped before F3's release that I went out and bought it so I could get some perspective on the world I was going to be immersed in back when I was 14.
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