The Hopping Dead - Thread #6

Post » Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:36 pm

Survival Instincts doesn't look as terrible as I thought it would. They actually have a survival focus oddly enough. :tongue:


http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2013/03/19/test-chamber-the-walking-dead-survival-instinct.aspx Minor spoilers if you're concerned.
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:48 am

This looks horrible.
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:32 am

This looks horrible.

I could care less about the graphics. I'll pick it up this weekend and give it a shot, as a couple people I know are saying it's better than they thought it would be.
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:15 am



I could care less about the graphics. I'll pick it up this weekend and give it a shot, as a couple people I know are saying it's better than they thought it would be.

I wasn't referring to the graphics.
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Post » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:20 pm

I did find the episode's horror cliche shenanigans rather over the top - but it was done well, so I can give it a pass. What I am having issue with, re: the show lately, is its lack of information on distances. This seems to be handy for the writers, since it means they can fudge traveling notions when the plot calls for it, but it's becoming inconsistent enough that it sometimes breaks credibility. Sometimes I feel like the Gov's town, the Prison, the Farm, and Rick's original town must be within this large, 100+ mile diameter that they keep circling around in, but other times I feel like maybe it's only 10 or 15. :tongue:

And I sure hope Tyrese will become more interesting/integral soon, because so far he's basically a pointless chr. eg, he better have some central role in the conflict that's coming up or I'll be sorely disappointed.

Also, I sure think that

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Andrea should have sliced the tires of the Gov's truck before leaving. Assuming of course she didn't know how to hotwire a truck, and the keys were on the Gov. Not to mention, not making sure someone is actually dead/incapacitated is always stupid. He did have guns for defense, it's not like he only had a tiny knife/bare hands. Of course, it would be a shortened season/series if he was actually dead...but surely there could have been something done to make it a little less silly. :wink:

And as much as I've come to dislike Andrea (I never liked her much to begin with, and this season just capped it), I wouldn't wish that potential fate on her. :bonk: Maybe a couple certain someone's will help her out.

(edit: put a little more of my original post in the spoiler tag, just in case. never know...)

I agree with you here on the generic horror cliches that this past episode was riddled with. I got what they were going for and I think they were successful with the scene where Andrea was hiding in the warehouse while the Gov. was stalking and trying to find her. That scene had a decent suspense and intensity to it, but after that, the run-of-the-mill basic horror stuff turned me off a little bit.

And what you mention in your spoiler is exactly what kind of upset me for this episode...
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Andrea didn't even go near the truck to investigate it after exiting the warehouse. Then after being swarmed by "biters", 'ole Governor Philip becomes a ninja and sneaks up on Andrea and grabs her just in time before she reaches Rick's line of sight. :facepalm:

I guess I didn't really mind that it happened, I just feel it could have been done a bit better ya know.

I also know what you're talking about in regards to the radius of the locations and the distance between them all. The range between some of the locales seems to differ at times. Remember in the episode with Morgan when Carl was looking at a hand-drawn map of the town on the wall and pointed out their old house and the police station? I wonder if that gives much insight into the overall location. I may go rewatch that episode just for that part.
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Post » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:03 pm


Honestly, of all the travel sequences that bothers me, it's that Andrea basically took to a direction and ran with it. I'm willing to overlook a lot for the sake of fiction and practical story telling, but running off in a random direction hoping it'll get you to the prison in near dusk hours in a zombie apocalypse, that's just dumb as all hell.
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:31 am

Am I seriously the only one who saw that coming a mile away?
No


So Polygon gave it a 3/10. I was expecting as much. Sounds like it had a couple cool ideas as far as the survival aspects go but failed to deliver on them and pretty much everything else.
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:42 am

Totalbiscuit did a first impression video on the game here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5sohwDTyPg


Some cool ideas in there, just no time for any polish or depth to actually make them good...
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:15 am

Totalbiscuit did a first impression video on the game here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5sohwDTyPg

Some cool ideas in there, just no time for any polish or depth to actually make them good...

Pretty much. It's not bad, but it's not good either. Just mediocre.
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Post » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:46 pm

I also know what you're talking about in regards to the radius of the locations and the distance between them all. The range between some of the locales seems to differ at times. Remember in the episode with Morgan when Carl was looking at a hand-drawn map of the town on the wall and pointed out their old house and the police station? I wonder if that gives much insight into the overall location. I may go rewatch that episode just for that part.

Where Morgan lives, Rick's Hometown, is King's County, Georgia. It's not a real town, but I would imagine it's quite a distance from the prison, since it took the whole morning to get there, I imagine they left early in the AM that day. As for the distance from Woodbury to the Prison, in the book it was approx. ~10-20miles. During that episode with Andrea, she left early midday and didn't get to the prison til early the next morning...sounds about right to me, considering all the side tracking she did.

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=211974457044924343699.0004723d3ecc55ac63583 that even Kirkman recommends, it's from a fan and based on the comics, but the only real difference is Rick is from Kentucky in the comic, but Georgia on the show.


Now, one big thing on the show is a sense of time, we clearly don't know it on a lot of episodes. In a few episodes this Season, some episodes spans the course of two days while some only span the course of an hour, we just don't know unles it is clearly stated by them on the show.
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Post » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:34 pm

No


So Polygon gave it a 3/10. I was expecting as much. Sounds like it had a couple cool ideas as far as the survival aspects go but failed to deliver on them and pretty much everything else.

Wow. A 3/10 really? That's disappointing. Oh well, I guess.


So how many episode sof season 3 do we have left again? Only 2?
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:34 am

So how many episode sof season 3 do we have left again? Only 2?

Yep.

"Everyone's in play now, everyone's on stage, everybody has a stake in it and I think it'll be a very interesting, surprising ending for the fans," Mazzara says in a recent phone interview from Los Angeles. "I know it won't be what people will expect but I think hopefully it'll be emotionally satisfying."

-I'm really stuck about how they will end this Season.
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Post » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:31 pm

Yep.

"Everyone's in play now, everyone's on stage, everybody has a stake in it and I think it'll be a very interesting, surprising ending for the fans," Mazzara says in a recent phone interview from Los Angeles. "I know it won't be what people will expect but I think hopefully it'll be emotionally satisfying."

-I'm really stuck about how they will end this Season.
now i need a rumor!!
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Post » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:17 pm

Pretty much. It's not bad, but it's not good either. Just mediocre.
That's kind of why I don't want it. Tell Tale made their game feel in the vein of the way the Comics work, but over all, I'd say that this one is just a cash grab based on the show (Obviously) and zombie killing.

@Little Mike- That bothers me,usually when a dev or producer says that, it's very predicted.

Throwing my dice on the table:
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Governor dies, a couple of the prisoners die (My guess being Hershel among them) and the prisoners fleeing as Woodbury is overrun or collapses into Anarchy.

Edit: Prisoner as in Prison Group >_>
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:52 am

Throwing my dice on the table:
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Governor dies, a couple of the prisoners die (My guess being Hershel among them) and the prisoners fleeing as Woodbury is overrun or collapses into Anarchy.

Edit: Prisoner as in Prison Group >_>

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I'm still thinking they will make us believe the Governor is dead, sorta like in the comics when Michonne thought she killed him, then in S4 it will be the big reveal in the first few episodes that he didn't die and the first half of the season or so will be his final assault on the prison. I really doubt the Governor arc will end at the finale...the Governor's true colors just started to show and to end it in only two episodes would be a big let down to his comic fans that have been waiting for the real Governor to appear. We know the Woodbury props were kept in storage and that they are returning to Senoia, GA for S4, but they could have anything up their sleeve for that...
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:44 am

Taken from THR Interview:

"As for next week's season three finale, Alpert says eagle-eyed fans are in for a reward. "There's stuff in the finale specifically that's going to call back to the beginning of the season that will pay off for people who have been paying attention and are invested in the show," he says. "You don't need to have seen it but your experience of the show is going to be much more rewarded if you watch the first-half closely. That type of storytelling and emotional payoff we're going to give in the finale is exactly the thing that makes The Walking Dead so special and unique."

WTF is he talking about I wonder...
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Post » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:13 pm

Episode 15 - 'This Sorrowful Life' Summary!


This Sorrowful Life:
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"Episode opens with Rick, Hershel and Daryl with Rick telling Daryl about the deal to hand over Michonne and no one else knows. Daryl asks if he plans on telling her but Rick says not until after. It has to be done that day and quietly. Daryl asks if he has a plan and Rick says that they’ll tell her that they need to talk when she’s away from the rest of the group. Daryl looks uneasy and says he doesn't know about this because it isn’t like them. Hershel hops away saying it’s not.

Rick tells Daryl if they do this then they can avoid fighting and no one else has to die. Daryl nods and then agrees. Rick then tells him that they need someone else. Daryl says that he’ll talk to ‘him’ but Rick says that he’ll do it.
In the prison, Rick walks upstairs to one of the cell blocks and finds Merle ripping apart a mattress. He sees Rick and says he’s just looking for some drugs but can’t find any while claiming the prison was probably no fun if no one had drugs.

Rick cuts him off by saying they need his help and Merle just laughs at him. Rick asks if he even knows why he does things he does and makes certain choices. Merle gives no answer. Rick tells Merle about the deal. Rick doesn't like it but he says it needs to be done and Merle can help with that. Merle asks if he told anybody else but Rick just says Daryl, Hershel, and now him.
Merle talks about the times he went on runs with the Governor and vicious he was to people. Merle tells him to go on and give him Michonne but he’ll only torture her and not kill her and that Rick would let all of that happen just for a shot that the Governor MIGHT keep his word. “You’re cold as ice, officer friendly.”

Merle says he’ll need some wire to do the job. He then tells Rick that he’s right and that he doesn’t know why he does things but he does know Rick and he doesn’t have the balls to go through with the deal. Rick cuts him off and says this needs to be done by noon and then walks away.

**Cue opening**

Rick runs out of the prison and sees Carl and Maggie distracting the walkers while Michonne, Daryl, Glenn, and Beth lay traps in the yard. Rick also sees Michonne pulling her weight by killing some walkers while Glenn lays the traps. When they get back in the prison yard, Glenn tells Rick that they found some blown tires that they can use at the gate to slow Woodbury down. Rick says that’s a great idea but then Daryl looks at him and says it was Michonne’s.

After that awkward pause, Michonne tells them that they don’t have to win but give them as much trouble as possible. Maggie and Carl meet up with everyone and Rick just gives Daryl a look and a hesitant nod. Back inside the prison, Merle looks down at the group in the yard through a window and says to himself ‘ain't no way….’ Carol overhears him and asks what’s he’s talking about. He brushes her off then asks if they have any whiskey. Carol tells him off and asks him if he is with them. Merle just says ‘sure’ but she clarifies not just about occupying the same place as them. Merle says he is here for his brother and Carol says Daryl is there for them so it’s not time to do shots but it’s time to pick a side. Merle tells her how she isn't the same when they first met and she used to be like a little mouse scared of her own shadow. She says it was her husband that she was afraid and agrees with Merle that she isn’t scared of much anymore. He claims she’s a late bloomer and she suggests that maybe he is too and walks away.

Back outside, Daryl walks up to Glenn and asks if he’s seen Merle and Glenn just ignores him. Daryl asks if he’s apologized yet and if he doesn’t then he’ll make him. He just asks for some forgiveness. Glenn explains to Daryl what Merle did to him and Maggie and he could maybe forgive him if he didn't terrorize Maggie but he did. Glenn goes back to what he’s doing and Daryl grabs his crossbow and walks away. Daryl then looks for Merle in the prison and calls out to him where he hears noises in the engine room. He finds him and asks what’s he doing and Merle tells him he’s just looking for some drugs. Daryl asks if he spoke to Rick, Merle says he did and he’s in but he doesn't think Rick has the balls to go through with it while Daryl says if he flops then he flops. Merle asks if he doesn't want to go through with the deal and Daryl just pauses and says whatever Rick says goes.

Merle laughs at him and asks what happened to his balls. Daryl then asks what happened with Glenn and Maggie Merle says he has done worst and Daryl needs to grow up. He claims that the group looks at him like he’s the devil and the same thing they’re planning to do to Michonne is the same as snatching up Glenn and Maggie and giving them to the Governor. He says you got to do what you have to or you die while Daryl disagrees and says it doesn’t have to be that way. Merle says that maybe the prison group needs someone like him to do all the dirty work that they can’t do. Daryl says he just wants his brother back and Merle says he standing right in front of him then Daryl walks away. Merle grabs a telephone and places it in a sack with a rifle and some other things. Back at the group’s cell block, Hershel is praying with Beth and Maggie. While the prayer goes on, Rick is seen walking in the yard looking for some wire to use on Michonne. He finds some and begins to roll it around his arm but he seems to be struggling to keep going. He looks toward the gate and sees Lori staring at him.

He looks back down and repeats that she isn’t really there but looks back up and still sees her standing and watching. Rick gets fed up and drops the cord that he found. He enters back into the prison passing Hershel who just finished his prayers and calls out to him to try to make a plea about the deal. Rick cuts him off saying that he can’t and won’t do it then walks away. Back in the prison’s corridors, Merle and Michonne go to find the breach in the prison where Tyreese’s group came from to barricade it. They kill off some walkers and when she isn’t looking, he knocks her unconscious and drags her into a room to tie up her hands and put a bag over her head.

Merle and Michonne are then seen walking on the road and he tells her about the deal The Governor gave to Rick. Michonne agrees that Rick wouldn’t have gone through it but of course Merle would. Michonne said he wasn’t straight with her but Merle says that the point is that he’s the one to get things done and does all the dirty work. They see a walker and Merle cuts it down with Michonne’s sword. He’s surprised that she didn’t run but she says she wants to make sure she gets her sword back before she escapes. Back at the prison, Rick finds Daryl and tells him the deal is off and Daryl comments that it’s a smart choice but notices something is wrong with Rick. He says that he can’t find Merle and Michonne so Daryl leads Rick back to where he last saw him. They find that Merle led Michonne into the engine room and he was able to capture her. Rick says he’s going to go find them but Daryl says he can’t track for [censored] so Rick says they’ll both go but Daryl refuses and says he’ll do it alone. It makes no sense for the both of them to go especially if the Governor shows up and also says that Rick is family as well.

Getting back to ‘M&M’;Merle/Michonne; Merle tells her that he wants to stay with Daryl and Daryl wants to stay at the prison so he’s willing to do what he has to maybe keep the prison standing. They stop to see if a van they found is still usable and Merle says that they just have to play the hand they are dealt. Michonne tells him that even though he talks about the entire burden that he has to carry, a truly bad and evil person wouldn’t feel a thing, yet he feels something. Merle then tells her he’s killed 16 men since everything has happened then they continue walking. We see Glenn enter Hershel’s cell to talk to him. He takes out the pocket watch and explains that he didn’t know what it meant at first but now he does. He then tells Hershel that he wants to marry Maggie.

Hershel gives Glenn his blessing and then Glenn leaves. Back on the road with M&M, they find some cars in front of a building and Merle ties her to one of the building’s pillars. Merle breaks into one of the cars and attempts to hot wire. It starts but it also sets off the alarm which attracts a bunch of walkers to them. Michonne tells him to hurry up while she fights off the walkers while being able to kill a couple. A walker comes out of the building and grabs Michonne but Merle is able to shoot it before she gets bitten and cuts her loose from the pillar (hands still bind) and they get in the car and drive off.

Driving down the road, Michonne asks if all he does is do what he’s told by Rick or the Governor. He just ‘runs to anyone who needs his piss bucket to be emptied’. She says that Daryl is different from him and at least Rick needs him and respects him but Merle just screws up his chance of having a new beginning but chooses to stay on the outside by just doing what he’s told and that no one will mourn him especially Daryl. Merle says if she keeps talking she’ll cut his tongue out and Rick views her on the outside as much as him.


*Cuts to Glenn finding a walker wearing a ring; Glenn cuts its finger off*

Michonne asks if he killed any men before this all happened and how many since he met The Governor. Merle tells her that he never killed anyone before meeting him. Michonne asks why not they both just go back to the prison together but Merle hesitates and says he can’t just go back but she asks him “why?” Merle stops the car and pauses for a few. He cuts Michonne loose and tells her to go back to Rick and get ready for what’s next but he has something that he has to do on his own. She gets out with her sword and he drives off.

Michonne and Daryl cross each other in a field and he asks where his brother is or if she killed him but she tells him that he let her go. Daryl rushes off and tells her to not let anyone go after him and Michonne just looks on has he runs. Merle is seen in the car drinking some whiskey with some music blasting and taunting a bunch of walkers. He lures the walkers with the noise and heads to the field where the deal is to be held(the area where Rick and the Governor met) but jumps out of the car quickly to sneak away into a nearby building.

This catches the attention of Martinez and his and they go check out the noise. While the group is distracted by the walkers and start shooting, Merle begins to take out some Woodbury men in the chaos but Martinez also notices something is going on in the building close to them. Merle just about has the Governor in his cross-hairs but Ben gets in the way of his shot by accident and gets hit in the shoulder or neck area. Then a walker suddenly grabs Merle from the side but he kills it and accidentally falls through the building’s door. He get a kicked to the face and the Woodbury men starts to kick him while he’s down but the Governor yells for them to leave Merle to him and he grabs Merle and tosses him back into the building.

The Governor then beats on him while he’s on the ground but Merle manages to get a hit in and gets up and tries to fend him off but The Governor bites two of his fingers off and spits them out and then breaks his arm back and starts to choke him. He calms down a bit and spits on him and walks back but Merle says he won’t beg. The Governor just tells him “No…” and shoots. *cut to black*

Glenn finds Maggie and tells her he wants to speak with her before they all have the meeting with Rick. He hands her the ring and she tells him yes and they start to kiss. Everyone meets in the yard and Rick tells them all about the deal that the Governor gave him. He tells them that he was going to do it to keep them safe but he changed his mind, Merle took Michonne to fulfill the deal and Daryl went after them but he doesn’t know if it’s too late. He says that he was wrong not to tell them and he apologizes.

He mentions the night that he declared the ricktatorship and that it cannot be like that anymore and what they do is not his call. The decision is life or death and he isn’t their governor. They vote to stay and fight or they vote to leave. Rick then walks away. He goes to the watch tower and sees Michonne is coming back without Merle or Daryl. Back at the field where [censored] went down, Daryl is investigating and comes across bodies that have been shot and eaten by walkers. He shoots one walker that was still feasting in the head but comes across another walker eating Ben.

He realizes that the walker is Merle with a gunshot wound in the chest. Daryl begins to sob and walker Merle tries to attack him but Daryl just pushes him away a few times while sobbing. When it tries to attack Daryl a third time, Daryl takes out his knife and stabs him in the neck to the ground. Daryl then repeatedly stabs him in the face out of anger and sadness and then backs off of it and starts to cry on the ground."

*screen cuts to black*
*This episode was written by Scott Gimple/New Showrunner*

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Post » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:56 pm

Episode 15 - 'This Sorrowful Life' Summary!


This Sorrowful Life:
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"Episode opens with Rick, Hershel and Daryl with Rick telling Daryl about the deal to hand over Michonne and no one else knows. Daryl asks if he plans on telling her but Rick says not until after. It has to be done that day and quietly. Daryl asks if he has a plan and Rick says that they’ll tell her that they need to talk when she’s away from the rest of the group. Daryl looks uneasy and says he doesn't know about this because it isn’t like them. Hershel hops away saying it’s not.

Rick tells Daryl if they do this then they can avoid fighting and no one else has to die. Daryl nods and then agrees. Rick then tells him that they need someone else. Daryl says that he’ll talk to ‘him’ but Rick says that he’ll do it.
In the prison, Rick walks upstairs to one of the cell blocks and finds Merle ripping apart a mattress. He sees Rick and says he’s just looking for some drugs but can’t find any while claiming the prison was probably no fun if no one had drugs.

Rick cuts him off by saying they need his help and Merle just laughs at him. Rick asks if he even knows why he does things he does and makes certain choices. Merle gives no answer. Rick tells Merle about the deal. Rick doesn't like it but he says it needs to be done and Merle can help with that. Merle asks if he told anybody else but Rick just says Daryl, Hershel, and now him.
Merle talks about the times he went on runs with the Governor and vicious he was to people. Merle tells him to go on and give him Michonne but he’ll only torture her and not kill her and that Rick would let all of that happen just for a shot that the Governor MIGHT keep his word. “You’re cold as ice, officer friendly.”

Merle says he’ll need some wire to do the job. He then tells Rick that he’s right and that he doesn’t know why he does things but he does know Rick and he doesn’t have the balls to go through with the deal. Rick cuts him off and says this needs to be done by noon and then walks away.

**Cue opening**

Rick runs out of the prison and sees Carl and Maggie distracting the walkers while Michonne, Daryl, Glenn, and Beth lay traps in the yard. Rick also sees Michonne pulling her weight by killing some walkers while Glenn lays the traps. When they get back in the prison yard, Glenn tells Rick that they found some blown tires that they can use at the gate to slow Woodbury down. Rick says that’s a great idea but then Daryl looks at him and says it was Michonne’s.

After that awkward pause, Michonne tells them that they don’t have to win but give them as much trouble as possible. Maggie and Carl meet up with everyone and Rick just gives Daryl a look and a hesitant nod. Back inside the prison, Merle looks down at the group in the yard through a window and says to himself ‘ain't no way….’ Carol overhears him and asks what’s he’s talking about. He brushes her off then asks if they have any whiskey. Carol tells him off and asks him if he is with them. Merle just says ‘sure’ but she clarifies not just about occupying the same place as them. Merle says he is here for his brother and Carol says Daryl is there for them so it’s not time to do shots but it’s time to pick a side. Merle tells her how she isn't the same when they first met and she used to be like a little mouse scared of her own shadow. She says it was her husband that she was afraid and agrees with Merle that she isn’t scared of much anymore. He claims she’s a late bloomer and she suggests that maybe he is too and walks away.

Back outside, Daryl walks up to Glenn and asks if he’s seen Merle and Glenn just ignores him. Daryl asks if he’s apologized yet and if he doesn’t then he’ll make him. He just asks for some forgiveness. Glenn explains to Daryl what Merle did to him and Maggie and he could maybe forgive him if he didn't terrorize Maggie but he did. Glenn goes back to what he’s doing and Daryl grabs his crossbow and walks away. Daryl then looks for Merle in the prison and calls out to him where he hears noises in the engine room. He finds him and asks what’s he doing and Merle tells him he’s just looking for some drugs. Daryl asks if he spoke to Rick, Merle says he did and he’s in but he doesn't think Rick has the balls to go through with it while Daryl says if he flops then he flops. Merle asks if he doesn't want to go through with the deal and Daryl just pauses and says whatever Rick says goes.

Merle laughs at him and asks what happened to his balls. Daryl then asks what happened with Glenn and Maggie Merle says he has done worst and Daryl needs to grow up. He claims that the group looks at him like he’s the devil and the same thing they’re planning to do to Michonne is the same as snatching up Glenn and Maggie and giving them to the Governor. He says you got to do what you have to or you die while Daryl disagrees and says it doesn’t have to be that way. Merle says that maybe the prison group needs someone like him to do all the dirty work that they can’t do. Daryl says he just wants his brother back and Merle says he standing right in front of him then Daryl walks away. Merle grabs a telephone and places it in a sack with a rifle and some other things. Back at the group’s cell block, Hershel is praying with Beth and Maggie. While the prayer goes on, Rick is seen walking in the yard looking for some wire to use on Michonne. He finds some and begins to roll it around his arm but he seems to be struggling to keep going. He looks toward the gate and sees Lori staring at him.

He looks back down and repeats that she isn’t really there but looks back up and still sees her standing and watching. Rick gets fed up and drops the cord that he found. He enters back into the prison passing Hershel who just finished his prayers and calls out to him to try to make a plea about the deal. Rick cuts him off saying that he can’t and won’t do it then walks away. Back in the prison’s corridors, Merle and Michonne go to find the breach in the prison where Tyreese’s group came from to barricade it. They kill off some walkers and when she isn’t looking, he knocks her unconscious and drags her into a room to tie up her hands and put a bag over her head.

Merle and Michonne are then seen walking on the road and he tells her about the deal The Governor gave to Rick. Michonne agrees that Rick wouldn’t have gone through it but of course Merle would. Michonne said he wasn’t straight with her but Merle says that the point is that he’s the one to get things done and does all the dirty work. They see a walker and Merle cuts it down with Michonne’s sword. He’s surprised that she didn’t run but she says she wants to make sure she gets her sword back before she escapes. Back at the prison, Rick finds Daryl and tells him the deal is off and Daryl comments that it’s a smart choice but notices something is wrong with Rick. He says that he can’t find Merle and Michonne so Daryl leads Rick back to where he last saw him. They find that Merle led Michonne into the engine room and he was able to capture her. Rick says he’s going to go find them but Daryl says he can’t track for [censored] so Rick says they’ll both go but Daryl refuses and says he’ll do it alone. It makes no sense for the both of them to go especially if the Governor shows up and also says that Rick is family as well.

Getting back to ‘M&M’;Merle/Michonne; Merle tells her that he wants to stay with Daryl and Daryl wants to stay at the prison so he’s willing to do what he has to maybe keep the prison standing. They stop to see if a van they found is still usable and Merle says that they just have to play the hand they are dealt. Michonne tells him that even though he talks about the entire burden that he has to carry, a truly bad and evil person wouldn’t feel a thing, yet he feels something. Merle then tells her he’s killed 16 men since everything has happened then they continue walking. We see Glenn enter Hershel’s cell to talk to him. He takes out the pocket watch and explains that he didn’t know what it meant at first but now he does. He then tells Hershel that he wants to marry Maggie.

Hershel gives Glenn his blessing and then Glenn leaves. Back on the road with M&M, they find some cars in front of a building and Merle ties her to one of the building’s pillars. Merle breaks into one of the cars and attempts to hot wire. It starts but it also sets off the alarm which attracts a bunch of walkers to them. Michonne tells him to hurry up while she fights off the walkers while being able to kill a couple. A walker comes out of the building and grabs Michonne but Merle is able to shoot it before she gets bitten and cuts her loose from the pillar (hands still bind) and they get in the car and drive off.

Driving down the road, Michonne asks if all he does is do what he’s told by Rick or the Governor. He just ‘runs to anyone who needs his piss bucket to be emptied’. She says that Daryl is different from him and at least Rick needs him and respects him but Merle just screws up his chance of having a new beginning but chooses to stay on the outside by just doing what he’s told and that no one will mourn him especially Daryl. Merle says if she keeps talking she’ll cut his tongue out and Rick views her on the outside as much as him.


*Cuts to Glenn finding a walker wearing a ring; Glenn cuts its finger off*

Michonne asks if he killed any men before this all happened and how many since he met The Governor. Merle tells her that he never killed anyone before meeting him. Michonne asks why not they both just go back to the prison together but Merle hesitates and says he can’t just go back but she asks him “why?” Merle stops the car and pauses for a few. He cuts Michonne loose and tells her to go back to Rick and get ready for what’s next but he has something that he has to do on his own. She gets out with her sword and he drives off.

Michonne and Daryl cross each other in a field and he asks where his brother is or if she killed him but she tells him that he let her go. Daryl rushes off and tells her to not let anyone go after him and Michonne just looks on has he runs. Merle is seen in the car drinking some whiskey with some music blasting and taunting a bunch of walkers. He lures the walkers with the noise and heads to the field where the deal is to be held(the area where Rick and the Governor met) but jumps out of the car quickly to sneak away into a nearby building.

This catches the attention of Martinez and his and they go check out the noise. While the group is distracted by the walkers and start shooting, Merle begins to take out some Woodbury men in the chaos but Martinez also notices something is going on in the building close to them. Merle just about has the Governor in his cross-hairs but Ben gets in the way of his shot by accident and gets hit in the shoulder or neck area. Then a walker suddenly grabs Merle from the side but he kills it and accidentally falls through the building’s door. He get a kicked to the face and the Woodbury men starts to kick him while he’s down but the Governor yells for them to leave Merle to him and he grabs Merle and tosses him back into the building.

The Governor then beats on him while he’s on the ground but Merle manages to get a hit in and gets up and tries to fend him off but The Governor bites two of his fingers off and spits them out and then breaks his arm back and starts to choke him. He calms down a bit and spits on him and walks back but Merle says he won’t beg. The Governor just tells him “No…” and shoots. *cut to black*

Glenn finds Maggie and tells her he wants to speak with her before they all have the meeting with Rick. He hands her the ring and she tells him yes and they start to kiss. Everyone meets in the yard and Rick tells them all about the deal that the Governor gave him. He tells them that he was going to do it to keep them safe but he changed his mind, Merle took Michonne to fulfill the deal and Daryl went after them but he doesn’t know if it’s too late. He says that he was wrong not to tell them and he apologizes.

He mentions the night that he declared the ricktatorship and that it cannot be like that anymore and what they do is not his call. The decision is life or death and he isn’t their governor. They vote to stay and fight or they vote to leave. Rick then walks away. He goes to the watch tower and sees Michonne is coming back without Merle or Daryl. Back at the field where [censored] went down, Daryl is investigating and comes across bodies that have been shot and eaten by walkers. He shoots one walker that was still feasting in the head but comes across another walker eating Ben.

He realizes that the walker is Merle with a gunshot wound in the chest. Daryl begins to sob and walker Merle tries to attack him but Daryl just pushes him away a few times while sobbing. When it tries to attack Daryl a third time, Daryl takes out his knife and stabs him in the neck to the ground. Daryl then repeatedly stabs him in the face out of anger and sadness and then backs off of it and starts to cry on the ground."

*screen cuts to black*
*This episode was written by Scott Gimple/New Showrunner*

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I don't want to read your spoiler, and without giving any spoilers, does the next episode seem like a goodin'?
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:10 am

I don't want to read your spoiler, and without giving any spoilers, does the next episode seem like a goodin'?

To be honest, I just skimmed over it, because I want to be a little surprised. Scott Gimple's episodes so far have been some of the best of the series; 'Save The Last One',' 18 Miles Out,' 'Pretty Much Dead Already,' and 'Clear.' One of the big spoilers for the next episode I learned last week, so just knowing those two things I think it's safe to say it's going to be pretty ****ing great! You're in for a massive surprise :shocking:-if you don't already know what spoiler I'm referring too.
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Post » Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:46 pm

All I can say is this, Holy Hell. Tonight's episode was too powerful at the end, and it really tugged at my heartstrings.
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:45 am

Damn........ That's all.

This is my reaction to the last episode
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MERLE!.......I never really liked you!(as a character because rooker's acting was good :) ) But I was still sad :(
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Erich Lendermon
 
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Post » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:28 pm

TV Series:

NOoooOOOoooOOOooooOOOooOOOOOoooooooOOOO!!!

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I feel so bad for Daryl! :confused:
...and actually, I felt terrible for Merle, too. He was an asshat, but never truly "evil," and I wanted him to be redeemed. Redeemed, darnit! They twisted me around, making me think maybe, and then ... Nooooo!

...did anyone else think it was a little odd the way Michone seemed to "soften" when Merle took her? I mean, as opposed to acting all angry/accusing etc? Maybe she felt like she could relate to Merle's loneliness?

...damn, I feel all sad now. :(

...good episode, they took me for an emotional ride. Probably for the first time in this series. :smile:
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:57 am

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Noticed the look on Zombie Merle's eyes when he saw Darryl. It's as if he sorta remembered that face.
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Emma
 
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:38 am

All I can say is this, Holy Hell.

Which leaves me wondering... how do you top it?

EDIT: You know exactly how.
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:19 am

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Noticed the look on Zombie Merle's eyes when he saw Darryl. It's as if he sorta remembered that face.
Well, there is the (unfounded) theory the undead retain a spark of who they are, but the primal instinct to feed is stronger than that faint whisp.

That said-

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Watching Daryl cry like that was really hear breaking.
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