This game is nothing special, who agree with me? : V - Skyrim

» Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:30 am

There's no way you're serious.

The game is a step backwards in terms of complexity, but in a good way, unless you're a hardcoe role player. If you're not, though, leveling up Acrobatics was an exercise in frustration and having to earn the right to be faster just drove you up the wall.

I like not having to pick starting stats, and just having my Redguard improve based on what I do.

» Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:28 am

The engine in this game has always been temperamental, but I'm glad to say I've only had two silent CTD, not surprising since I play very long sessions, I mean several hours at a time, the game itself has a couple of bugs but nothing game breaking yet, I average 35fps with very high ultra settings(ini tweaked).

If you look in the PC section of the forum you might be able to reduce crashes, one that comes to mind is the audio, windows defaults to 192khz sample, lowering this to 96khz or below certainly helps.

» Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:59 pm

They had to do this though to satisfy the greater audience, or whatever. In this time and age you're not gonna find games like Zelda etc. because the majority of people just aren't that tolerant anymore.

No. You are just looking in the wrong places.

» Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:09 am

Giving this game 9.5/10 is simply incredible.

This game constantly crashes, has a horrible framerate also on ultra high end configurations despite the really bad graphics (2007pc game are far better than this in terms of graphics quality), if you see a shadow sometime in the game you are lucky,
the player has no voice, the textures are blurry and very low detail, the sound effect is really basic and repetitive, the menu is tricky, the animations
are bad, most characters slides instead of walking, no particles, no shaders, the water seems to be a texture, the smoke is something seen in Quake 3 Arena.
the story is really fragmented and difficult to follow for a first time player of the saga, I played several hours but I don't understood who I am, how I'm there and why.
The first hour of the game is something like, take this letter here and than give this letter to x and than give this object to y.
The mouse movement is strange, it seems to use a pad instead of a mouse.

I'm playing since many hours but this game is not engaging me, I'm continuing to play just to understand how people can say that this
is a great game, should I see something that will change my thinking?

What have this game that rocks?
But how can a game with such huge limitations and problems take 9.5/10 in reviews?

lets disect this
i put disk into xbox
it plays.... nope no crashing
textures look pretty stunning but i can see improvements easily but its nothing short of fun to walk down a road now.
many great games have players that dont talk, and its sort of an immersion thing, i think the player should talk one day in elderscrolls, but not yet.
sound, esspecially music is stunning in this game
the story isnt hard to follow unless you jump around it.
smoke is meh so i see your point
water could be better but the improvement from oblivion is incredible
there is more to do now, mining, making your own armor enchanting alchemy
your guy isn't a bad ass like shepard in Mass effect 3, but that game is so linear that its boring soon as you beat it, this is so open that maybe if i play 12 hours a day in a few weeks i'l finish 90% of the quest and dungeons

» Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:50 pm

Honestly? Sounds like your computer can't handle it. I haven't experienced any of the graphical issues you've cited. I'm playing on high (not ultra) and everything is stunningly gorgeous.

You also seem to be missing the point of this type of game entirely. The story is what you make it, you can't expect to be walked through it .. the point is to discover it for yourself.

If thats not your bag, that's understandable, but that doesn't make it a bad game.

» Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:41 am

He should be - this games storytelling is a step backwards. Script, Voice Acting and Scripting (the act of movement in the game) range in quality from rubbish to great; never amazing though.

Compared to Morrowind and Oblivion it's pretty amazing. That's my point.

» Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:55 pm

I personally disagree with everything you said there...

But, some people will agree with you... And for these people RPG's are not their thing. They play COD etc. Try that.

» Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:51 pm

Go to your hole and whine. I'm enjoying the game.

» Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:48 pm

He should be - this games storytelling is a step backwards. Script, Voice Acting and Scripting (the act of movement in the game) range in quality from rubbish to great; never amazing though.

Step backwards from what? The piss mainstream fest that is video games of the last 11-13 years spurned mainly by consoles, and hugely Nintendo and Sony to blame? Skyrim is an improvement. Mildly. But an improvement.

» Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:53 pm

Sounds like you're not an RPG player. I personally feel that games like Gears and CoD are over-rated. Shoot, reload, shoot some more. How does that deserve an almost perfect score. Maybe find a different genre of game ro play. Just a thought.

Infact I'm not an RPG player, I play all genre and I played the witcher 2, this game seems like pacman return when compared to the witcher saga.
The problem is that the elder scrolls may be a great game some year ago but now there is games that raised the bars, if TW2 worth a 9.5/10, this game worth 6/10 for everything,
story, gameplay, quests, graphics, sounds, performance, problems hiccups, this game is really years behing the new RPG that raised the bars.

» Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:14 pm

I don't think you are right.

Although it runs good for me I have to agree that most of the quests are fairly simple and the storyline had nothing to surprise me yet. I played for over 50 hours now and must say that it sounds and looks good but nearly all quests can be simply completed with hack & slay, the riddles within the dungeons are rather simple and you don't have to use your brain very much.

Compared to Morrowind and also to Oblivion this game is a step backwards in both complexity and storytelling. I also see that the motivation to play this game a second or a third time is lower then in its predecessors.

I disagree. I feel this games quests and story are just as good as the past games. I think WE as gamers have just got so used to these types of games that something new never feels as good as the old titles because we have been there and done that. But newer gamers that this might be their first title of this type in 10 years will be comparing newer games to this saying just what you did.

» Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:29 pm

The game is a step backwards in terms of complexity, but in a good way, unless you're a hardcoe role player. If you're not, though, leveling up Acrobatics was an exercise in frustration and having to earn the right to be faster just drove you up the wall.

I like not having to pick starting stats, and just having my Redguard improve based on what I do.

I agree 100%. The removal of worrying about +5 bonuses alone makes the leveling experience much more enjoyable.

» Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:49 pm

Disagree. Everything you say is irrelevant.

» Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:55 pm

He should be - this games storytelling is a step backwards. Script, Voice Acting and Scripting (the act of movement in the game) range in quality from rubbish to great; never amazing though.

nice to know that I'm not fool and there is someone else who can judge a game without beeing a really devoted fan.

» Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:52 am

I have to ask, what is it you're smoking and where can I get some?

Skyrim is one of the better looking games I've seen for Direct X9. Even on outdated tech it looks and runs brilliantly even on dated hardware. I've got two 4870s and I'm maxing this game out with some ini tweaks to boot with no hiccups.

» Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:18 pm

Never had one crash and I played maybe 20 hours. I'm on PS3

There was a long freeze in the very beginning when I got off a carriage which I thought was a crash, but the game started back up.

» Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:40 am

They had to do this though to satisfy the greater audience, or whatever. In this time and age you're not gonna find games like Zelda etc. because the majority of people just aren't that tolerant anymore.

Oh you just didn't bring Zelda into the picture lol best games to ever be made besides Elder Scrolls games that is..

» Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:44 pm

My comments bolded.

This game constantly crashes,
For me it crashed twice in the first hour, since then 20+ hours and no crashes.
has a horrible framerate also on ultra high end configurations despite the really bad graphics (2007pc game are far better than this in terms of graphics quality), if you see a shadow sometime in the game you are lucky,
.If you want more shadows, there's an option in the .ini file to turn them on. Still, I don't quite understand your problem with graphics, I think it's beautiful
the player has no voice,
This is actually a good thing,
the textures are blurry and very low detail, the sound effect is really basic and repetitive, the menu is tricky, the animations
are bad, most characters slides instead of walking, no particles, no shaders, the water seems to be a texture, the smoke is something seen in Quake 3 Arena.
wtf? Character sliding actually happens, but the rest... I've experienced none of it. Except for bad UI, but that just one thing.
the story is really fragmented and difficult to follow for a first time player of the saga, I played several hours but I don't understood who I am, how I'm there and why.
The first hour of the game is something like, take this letter here and than give this letter to x and than give this object to y.
Take this letter... Anyone else thinking of Caius Cosades right now? Seriously though, the story is pretty easy to follow, especially the first hour. Dragons haven't been seen for hundres of years, suddenly one appears and wreaks havoc on some town. You bring the news to the Jarl. You fight another dragon, at which point you discover your ancestry. Simple as can be. As for "who I am and why I'm there", that's the beauty of TES. YOU decide who you are, you give life and purpose to a nameless character. And there's no reason for your being there, you just are. Invent your story. Be whoever you want to be.
The mouse movement is strange, it seems to use a pad instead of a mouse.

I'm playing since many hours but this game is not engaging me, I'm continuing to play just to understand how people can say that this
is a great game, should I see something that will change my thinking?

What have this game that rocks?
But how can a game with such huge limitations and problems take 9.5/10 in reviews?

Why does it rock? Because of the open and detailed world, the freedom to develop your character, the story, the immersion it allows... If you don't understand it, perhaps TES just isn't for you. It happens.
Out of curiosity, though, what other RPG games have you played? Did you enjoy them?

» Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:07 pm

I play with an onboard 256 mb video card (radeon 4250m) in 800x600 resolution with all graphic options on lowest and it still looks good.

Either your trolling or your computer blows a load.

and to your later posts, what makes this game great is the open world, character progression, sense of acievement and wonder (go to blackreach and be amazed), you CAN do whatever you want in this world. and also soon enough this game will be better then great when the CS is realeased.

EDIT: oh and also, i've put in 60+ hours of gameplay so far without a single crash. keep in mind my computer is six years old.

» Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:52 am

Sorry but this is best game ever for me ... It is a matter of taste, but you cant spit on something that isn't for you ...

Graphics are not important to me, look at Morrowind, still owns ANY new game ...

You say you don't know who you are and why are you there, and your character has no voice, that is the whole point of the elder scrolls ...

» Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:16 pm

Giving this game 9.5/10 is simply incredible.

This game constantly crashes, has a horrible framerate also on ultra high end configurations despite the really bad graphics (2007pc game are far better than this in terms of graphics quality), if you see a shadow sometime in the game you are lucky,
the player has no voice, the textures are blurry and very low detail, the sound effect is really basic and repetitive, the menu is tricky, the animations
are bad, most characters slides instead of walking, no particles, no shaders, the water seems to be a texture, the smoke is something seen in Quake 3 Arena.
the story is really fragmented and difficult to follow for a first time player of the saga, I played several hours but I don't understood who I am, how I'm there and why.
The first hour of the game is something like, take this letter here and than give this letter to x and than give this object to y.
The mouse movement is strange, it seems to use a pad instead of a mouse.

I'm playing since many hours but this game is not engaging me, I'm continuing to play just to understand how people can say that this
is a great game, should I see something that will change my thinking?

What have this game that rocks?
But how can a game with such huge limitations and problems take 9.5/10 in reviews?

My specs:
Eizo FlexScan S2433WFS-BK + X-Rite DTP94B ~~ Lian Li PC-7FNWX USB 3.0
Intel I7 2600 @ 4.2GHz 1.160V ~~ Noctua NHU12-P SE2
Asus P8P67 Deluxe ~~ Corsair Vengeance PC-12800 - 1600MHz - CAS8 - 2x4GB - 1.5V
Corsair F120 - 120GB ~~ Western Digital Black - 2TB - 2002FAEX - SATAIII - 6gbps
Western Digital My Book 3.0 2TB ~~ 2x Zotac NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 SLI
Enermax MODU87+ 700W ~~ APC Power-Saving Back-UPS Pro 1500VA 865W

You have no idea what an RPG is, go and play some other FPS, basic games for basic gamers...

» Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:04 pm

this game seems like pacman return when compared to the witcher saga.

I love Pacman. One of the best games of all time. I believe you are insulting the Witcher 2 here

Anyways, this game is suburb. I don't have my rig yet (one in a half months T_T), but I played it at a friends house for about 5 hours...and it was amazing. Everything about it, all the points you brought up are moot. This game is wonderful.

Also, why do you keep bringing the Witcher 2 into this? That's like a Crysis fan yelling at Battlefield 3 players for bad graphics, you're insulting another game that excels at pretty much the same stuff, and does it just about as well (alright, opinion)....

» Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:09 pm

I clicked on this, wondering how anyone could possibly think this, and was interested in finding out what exactly you had to say.

Then I saw all the PC stuff. I know there's nothing inherently wrong with the PC version since a lot of people do enjoy it, but the first thing that popped into my head was "There's your problem." :tongue:

I honestly hope your issues get solved, I'd hate for you not to enjoy the game as much as most others do. And I don't get all the Witcher 2 references either... its looks boring to me. Is that like the standard of measurement for RPG gaming? I figured Elder Scrolls would be, at least for Open-world RPGs. Then again, I don't really think there should be a standard games should feel pressured to match, I think they turn out better if they stick with doing their own thing.

» Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:30 am

Can't agree less. I have put in about 40 hours, and maybe 3 crashes. Game runs and looks amazing on my outdated computer (at least 3 years old).

I'm sorry you aren't enjoying the game, but I wish more people would stop posting negative posts and posting positive ones. I come to the forums for discussion on the game, not really to sift through countless whining threads.

I'm not saying that you are whining by any means, because your post is straightforward... but not sure about the other people <.<

» Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:54 pm

I love Skyrim.

But I've also been an admitted really devoted fan of the TES since the release of Morrowind. (Which consumed a good portion of my childhood. Oblivion not so much, but is still an AWESOME game.)

I just think the pre-game hype killed my experience. I expected too much out of this release.

Where have all the skooma heads gone?