Want reasons? Check out my thread of why Skyrim is great. Or check out my many threads of different aspects of Skyrim.... Here to keep it sweet and simple for you:

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1263874-happily-proven-wrong-an-elder-scrolls-fans-look-on-skyrim/page__p__19248374__fromsearch__1#entry19248374

Have fun reading.

Though I'm not one to troll or be mean, your thread shows many things, one big thing that lights up is the fact that you are quite horrible at noticing anything around you in a game. This is an RPG, play it as such and you'll love it. If you play an RPG like an FPS, or expect it to be a "hallway" game where your shunted from one point to the next in the storyline that is as linear as a pencil is straight, then yes you'll have issues with this magnificent game which allows for virtually unlimited RPGing and exploration/immersion.

Perhaps the person above is right, maybe MW3 is more to your liking? A game which takes zero skill, and one which you dont need to pay attention to anything around you and still do ok because, heck, even if your aims way off, the horrid hit detection will still allow you to hit them.

Just dont try BF3, I think you'll find many "issues" with that as well, since the skill level and immersion is quite a bit higher than MW2 or COD....


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Ok I'll be nice, I am sorry.. Let me explain Elder Scrolls to you. They are for exploration and making YOUR OWN story....

Giving this game 9.5/10 is simply incredible.



^This is your computers problem... Graphics are Beautiful on PS3, pretty good on Xbox, and looks drop dead gorgous on my friends PC...



^ And? Its an RPG, you are YOU, in-fact giving a character a voice in many times can kill the mood. Why? Lets look at Dragon Age II for instance... Its actually quite easy to make a character that DOES NOT fit the voice.. killing the immersion and RPG factor of the game.. Having a character creation aspect like in Skyim, its obvious why they didnt add voices... I.E. "why does my 50 year old woman mage sound like a 20 year old woman?" <-- this is what it avoids by having no voice for your character



^ Once again, your PC's problem.. not the games



This sounds like nothing but trolling, that or a childish and un intelligent attack i'm sorry to say.. Repetitive how? Sorry is the crunch of stone and or earth everytime you take a step "repetitive"? Is everytime you strike metal on a metal you get a metal grinding sound to repetitive? This comment makes no sense...



^ This is slightly true, and I will give you this one. Sometimes they do slide a bit at random times while talking to another NPC, or suddenly warp for no apparent reason while talking to another NPC... but.. really? Does it matter THAT much?



^ Once again..... your PC's problem... not the games...



Ok.. here is your bread and butter true problem... You have no idea what an RPG is... honestly I cant blame you, there has been so few proper RPGs released these past 10 years I'm amazed kids even know what they are to begin with. So let me break this down for you....

The world is a sand-box... You do what you want, when you want, where you want, how you want. (to a slight limited degree in "how" you want, I.E. I cant poison the guard by giving him a poison potion, but I can still kill him in many other ways). This being said.. the game NEVER ENDS... thats right.. no ending to the game of Elder Scrolls... And there are more than enough quests to find to keep you busy for hundreds of hours if you really explore everything.

You dont understand who you are, why your there, or how.. why dont you understand? because its YOUR character, this is YOUR story.. not a story the developers made about your character, the developers presented you with a world, with ITS story, and ITS background, and ITS situations, and its YOUR choice of who you want your character to be, how and why. YOU are to fill in those blank spots. Thats the whole point of Role-playing..




Your problem is, you are not looking at it right.. Your not looking, playing, or reacting to the world like an RPG, like an open ended world with limitless possibilities. The only limit to this game is your own mind.. which, is honestly the only thing keeping you from seeing Skyrim as it truly is.



The game isnt limited.. your mind is. You want the game to hold you rhand through everything, you dont want an RPG, you want a story that you can mash buttons too and kill stuff with minimal thinking, and a linear storyline which takes no thought process or brain power to follow because EVERYTHING is given to you on a silver platter... Elder Scrolls is for you to figure stuff out, to wonder, to think, to explore, to learn, and to have fun how YOU want to do it..

The witcher 2 was good, but then with a similar budget anyone can create a good game that lasts 10 hours on PC. Want it to last 200 hours? Sacrifices will be made.

Why do you keep bringing up The Witcher 2? Both of those games were terrible. The storyline's boring and the controls utterly mangled.

Too bad TW2 svcks

I happen to have played both the Witcher 2 and Skyrim. Comparing them is like comparing apples and Oranges. Also, really, most of your complaints are with graphics glitches and framerates? No idea what's wrong with your rig, but I'd seriously consider getting a new one if it can't even play Skyrim.

Whats up with The Witcher 2? "THE WITCHER 2 HAS BETTER GRAPHICS, TEXTURES, STORY, COMBAT ETC. I HATE SKYRIM AND NOTHING WILL NOT CHANGE MY MIND, EVEN IF I SAID THAT!"
YOU DON'T like this game. YOU LOVE The Witcher 2. Go back to The Witcher 2, seems like you like that game, and not Skyrim. I think Skyrim is the most best games I have ever played.

Also I don't go to the forums of The Witcher 2 and say: "OMG THIS GAME IS GARBAGE. SKYRIM IS WAY BETTER!"

If you don't like the game, don't play it. There's no reason to make a topic of this and literally say Skyrim is not a good game.

disagree with Op as he too must of picked the dissatisfied/Bethseda burned me perk like i see in these rinse and repeat threads on here. Move on folks, nothing to see here. :cryvaultboy:

I am still confused as to why some people say this game has terrible graphics. This game is STUNNINGLY beautiful. I set it to ultra and tweak the ini settings from there to get shadows on trees and things like that, and it is just gorgeous. The art direction is superb. Some of the textures are a bit low res, but most of them are a lot better than people say. The only one I find off-putting is the shield texture, but overall, I have found the game to be far prettier than I expected it to be.

I don't know if you need to tweak some settings more, fix your rig, or fix your eyes. I have played Witcher 2, Metro 2033, Battlefield 3, etc. all of them on highest settings and with smooth framerates. Metro was pretty incredible, BF3 is great, and the Witcher 2 was also a very pretty DX11 game. But imo, none of them have near the art direction and over all "feel" of Skyrim. I disagree with almost everything the OP says, except for the mouse control part of course...but even that is easily adjusted to if you just give it a chance. Not sure how many hours I have played but after I hit about level 8 or so (now level 18), I don't even think about the wonky mouse and keyboard implementation. I think they did about as good a job as they could without actually redesigning the UI for the PC.

BTW, my rig is an I7 920 OCd to 3.3ghz, 6 gigs ram, ONE GTX 570, and a Creative audio card, everything else is pretty run of the mill. It is an updated and recent computer but nothing fancy or bleeding edge. Cost me about 1000bucks 2.5 years ago, put about 250 into it since then. I run Skyrim full tilt, with every graphics tweak you can find on the internet (shadows, water enhancements, added LOD commands, etc.) and some newly made mods, all at a smooth 40-60 FPS. I have had exactly 2 crashes the whole time I have played it.

You are too right.

The Witcher 2 literally lasted 10 hours. Not to mention I think Skyrim has far superior combat to the Witcher 2. Steel sword/silver sword. 5 spells. 10 potions. Sloppy mechanics.

I mean, yes, The Witcher 2 was pretty good for 10 hours, but I never even replayed the game once. I'm already creeping on 50 hours in Skyrim and I feel like there is so much to do.

Too bad one could not get Paid for Forum Trolling. Trolling for Dollars,that would be Cool.

This. ^

To OP, stop trolling. The game is amazing.

What do you expect Skyrim to be? An action-fantasy-first person hack&slay game?

Role playing is about developing a character within a story, not jsut to level up rushing through the game.

The game has spectacular art direction, but just mediocre graphics, which is fine.

The Witcher 2 is a great great game. It catered very specifically to the PC crowd and really pushed what the PC could do graphically. I love all of those things about it.

Depending on your preferences, I could see why you might enjoy that over Skyrim. Personally, I prefer Skyrim. I prefer the exploration I can do in Skyrim and I prefer the feeling that I am in a living breathing world that I can affect in every possible way.

I don't see what the big deal is. I play lots of games every year that I don't like that much. If Skyrim is not for you, move on to other gaming adventures.

This sure is a lot of words to say simply "I don't really like the game"

Look, nothing, and I mean nothing in the world is All Things to All People. So you don;t really like it. The goods news is: the world is somehow still spinning, so you can go and find a game you like better

But, surely, you already know, that no PC game was made with any individual's precise PC specs and condition in mind. Could you possibly consider the fact that so many people run this game on their PCs with no problems seems to indicate that your experience is out of the norm when it comes to performance?

It's about whatever you want it to be. Both versions of playing the game are fine.

I've put 30 hours into the Witcher 2 and still haven't completed it. It has lots of content. Nevertheless, the content can't compare to Skyrim. Also, the fact that I have already put more time into Skyrim is very telling.

Would have to say that I dont agree with the OP for the most part! I have seen some of the graphical problems in the game that he is mentioning but they are not game breakers for me. Waiting on patch/mods.

Yeah, I see what you mean OP. But you should never go into a TES game expecting

1) Anything resembling a adequete story or quest line.
2) A fairly clean bugfree first release.

One other thing, about the 9.5/10 scores; its business: the reviewers hype it up, then the publishers make money. You honestly don't think mainstream reviews are worth anything do you? Lets call things out for what they are. Two more things

3) TES games are open world adventures, which means that you have to role-play them yourself rather than be forced into a role. They require an entirely different way of playing than 99% of games out there.
4) Other peoples high expectations ruin your own individual experience.

I can't wait for the mods, personally. I'd give Oblivion 3/10 and Skyrim 7/10 myself...

I never understand threads that start like this. If we have to explain to you why we're fans of a game (any game), then clearly it's a simple matter of appeal. The game does not appeal to you. If it did, it wouldn't need explanation. It's a futile debate. One game CANNOT be all things to all people. If I sit here and exhaust all my adjectives and description on why I love the game, you'll come back to me with why all those reasons are flawed, or that all those reasons are WHY you don't like the game. Could it be that this game style just doesn't capture your imagination? Could it be that your tastes simply lie elsewhere? In all likelihood that's the case, because no amount of explanation from the legions of fans here are going to change your perception.

Once a person has made up their mind that they don't like something, they're going to focus on every flaw, every imperfection, every glitch as justification. And that's OK. Law does not decree that you MUST LOVE THIS GAME. Just don't blame the rest of us because we do.

There is no possible way it is a step backwards from Oblivion.

OP seems to be having issues that are his own systems fault aka his fault.

I personally hated The Witcher 2 and I love this game.

This game is just fantastic.

Also for graphics, I am on high only and look at these:

May spoil areas so look if you don't want to discover for yourself
http://i.imgur.com/EDg00.png
http://i.imgur.com/KO7LO.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/V4gRL.jpg

If you like W2 better, then maybe you don't understand the type of sandbox game Bethesda makes. I have 20 hours on my current play-thru and I haven't done ANY questing yet. That's why this game is so great: You can go wonder around, actively avoiding the quests, and still have a grand time. If that doesn't sound appealing, then, perhaps, you are playing the wrong game.

Solid graphics? Ahahahahah. Come on. Which game have you played the last time? A 2006 indie game?

But... but... there isn't a lot of content.

I went back and checked my save and there was more than 10 hours. But it was only 17, not 30. I don't know, I guess I rushed through it or something. It's also shockingly linear in comparison to Skyrim.

I guess that's the big thing. No other game attempts to do what Bethesda attempts to do. It dwarfs other games in so many areas that are important to me as a gamer.

I agree the graphics are not to hot, for a 6 year old console yes, but for current tech, not even close. Having said that, to me it's an outstanding game for it's genre and I'm having a blast. The story is not as deep or branching as something like Witcher 2, but they are different games and honestly considering how much they loaded into this game, it's an extremely good value. Sure it has flaws, but unlike something like Dragon age 2, a rushed piece of crap this has some serious love and detail put into it. I'll be playing this for years when the Creation kit comes out.