1.8 UpdateDragonborn DLC discussion thread #46

Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:10 pm

Official information
Officially called Dragonborn.
Sadly, on 360, presumably, as a 30 exclusive 360, on December 4th 2012 for 1600 Microsoft Points.
It is marketed as a game Add-On, like Dawnguard and Hearthfire. Take what you will from that....

Teaser picture http://cdnstatic.gamesas.com/bethblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/681455957.jpeg.
Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s.

Observations
Video contains information about some ex-Dragon-Priest-come-hipster-Dragonborn who ruled over Solstheim and liked to eat dragons. He makes a return in Dragonborn.

Links to interesting parts of the video and their respective stills.
Spoiler
Partial boatride 0m04s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=4s) (http://i.imgur.com/3Hihm.jpg)
Overview of Solstheim 0m23s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=23s) (http://i.imgur.com/jpKVN.jpg)
Telvanni Architecture 0m25s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=25s) (http://i.imgur.com/vWbdc.jpg)
Netch 0m27s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=27s) (http://i.imgur.com/jJKdz.jpg)
Dunmer village 0m28s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=28s) (http://i.imgur.com/TGLpk.jpg)
Miraak temple 0m38s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=38s) (http://i.imgur.com/2uPWc.jpg)
Standing stone 0m39s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=39s) (http://i.imgur.com/l52BX.jpg)
Tentacles from book grabbing Dragonborn, presumably taking them into Hermaeus Mora's realm 0m40s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=40s) (http://i.imgur.com/ykgJE.jpg)
Telvanni Architecture 0m47s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=47s) (http://i.imgur.com/lgnUK.jpg)
Dragon riding 0m50s and 1m10s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=50s and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=70s) (http://i.imgur.com/7RMDt.jpg and http://i.imgur.com/QSuI2.jpg)
Bonemold Armor 0m50s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=50s) (http://i.imgur.com/yjU6P.jpg)
Scourge (axe) 0m56s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=56s) (http://i.imgur.com/Z9DlP.jpg)
1H spears (NPC) 0m59s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=59s) (http://i.imgur.com/3UxYb.jpg)
Gravedigger (sword) 1m03s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=63s) (http://i.imgur.com/DKRcu.jpg)
2H spears (NPC) 1m05s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=65s) (http://i.imgur.com/a7bAn.jpg)
Stalhrim armor 1m05s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=65s) (http://i.imgur.com/a7bAn.jpg)
Rieklings and rieklings on boars 1m05s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s#t=65s) (http://i.imgur.com/a7bAn.jpg)
(give me more links and I'll put them here, append #t=XXmYYs to the video URL for timecode)

Albums containing the same + more stills.
http://imgur.com/a/8ezW3
http://imgur.com/a/l4yL2 (Can you identify some of these?)

Every frame from the trailer http://www.mediafire.com/?ymyt9gap5k2w1xi


Speculation
Boat Arrival into what is likely where Raven Rock was.
Antagonist is a former Dragon Priest, as well as the first Dragonborn and had dominion over Solstheim
Redoran Architecture present in walled city.
Giant Mushroom foilage. Terraformed Solstheim or Nothern coast of Morrowind?
Several new Daedra - One of which looks eerily like the Sixth House priests in service to Dagoth Ur

Info found in 1.8 CK update
Player dragon mounts are in.
2 new Achievements out of, at least, 10 are Solstheim Explorer, of which you need to discover 30 locations, and Stalhrim Crafter

Info found in 1.8 Updates
The next DLC will be called Dragonborn and it will be set on the island of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Solstheim.
The main locations you will be able to visit are http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:Raven_Rock, Miraak Temple, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:Castle_Karstaag and a Telvanni tower (N.B.: Not the Telvanni Tower seen in Morrowind in Vivec, but http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Tel_Uvirith).
There will be some new armor types, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Bonemold, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Chitin, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Nordic and http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:Raw_Stalhrim each having heavy and light classifications.
Out of these new materials, you will be able to craft new types items out of two of them, namely Stalhrim and Nordic.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Spears will be added along with an array of new creatures/automotons, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Riekling#Riekling, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Scrib#Scrib, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Netch#Netch, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Boar#Boar, Benthic Lurker, Ballista Centurion, and something with an internal name of HMDaedra, quite possibly referring to http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Hermaeus_Mora since it lists his plane of oblivion, Apocrypha. You will also be able to ride dragons and be in combat while mounted on one.

http://i.imgur.com/gF1hJ.png is what the quest header for Dragonborn Quests will look like, and http://i.imgur.com/AJu91.png is what the compass markers look like for the new locations.
From the top, clockwise: Telvanni Tower, To Solstheim, Raven Rock, Castle Karstaag, Standing Stones, To Skyrim, Miraak Temple.

There will be at least two new tracked stats: Dragonborn Quests Completed, and Stalhrim Items Crafted

You will travel to Solstheim via a boat, much like you did in Bloodmoon, although this time, it looks like you may at least get a partial visual boat ride.
The Telvanni tower has float up and down animations, so no levitation it seems.
Dragon riding will take place in its own world space

Mounted combat looks like it's getting an improvement with the ability to cast spells while mounted, tihs isn't necessarily a Dragonborn only thing though!

It appears that Update 1.8 readies Skyrim for PS3 DLC.

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Misinformation:
Weapon degrading -- There's nothing to indicate this is added, that isn't to say it can't/won't be added however. There was just no "new" information in this update. The degradation stuff seen previously has all been renemants from previous CK games (Fallout)
H2H stuff, That was my diff program messing up, sorry :)
Release dates -- No one but Bethesda knows!

Other stuff that I can't put my finger on or give intelligent guesses about because of lack of information
Miraak death animation, Chieftain animations, Chisel animations (perhaps new crafting station for the new armor.. doubt it though), Storn Death Reaction animation & Storn Suit Stages, Frea, Pray, StonePickUp, KillMoveDLC02RipHeartOut, TreeAmbush
There also seem to be a lot more animation files for running with weapons. No idea why.
Dwarven Ballista -- Possibly a new trap? http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Dwemer_Ballista#Dwemer_Ballista

Previous Threads
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417057-time-for-some-spoilers-form-the-latest-beta/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417092-hints-found-about-the-next-dlc-found-in-18-beta/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417136-18-beta-update-and-dragonborn-dlc-hints-discussion/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417175-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417237-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hintsagain/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417280-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417375-18-beta-update-new-dlc-discussion/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417315-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417392-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints-thread-9/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417456-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints-thread-10/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417500-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-hints-thread-11/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417552-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-hints-thread-12/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417570-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-hints-thread-13/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417620-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-hints-thread-14/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417703-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-hints-thread-15/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417802-18-beta-update-solsheim-dlc-thread-16/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417929-18-beta-update-solsheim-dlc-thread-17/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418010-18-beta-update-solsheim-dlc-thread-18/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418096-18-beta-update-solstheim-dlc-thread-19/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418331-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-20/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418474-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-21/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418670-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-22/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418874-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-23/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1419074-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-24/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1419436-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-25/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1419724-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-26/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1419844-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-27, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420204-18-betasolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-28, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420420-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-29/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420627-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-30/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420666-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-31/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420699-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-32/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420797-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-33/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420887-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-34/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1420987-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-35/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421043-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-36/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421094-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-37/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421130-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-38/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421151-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-39/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421157-18-updatesolstheim-dlc-discussion-thread-40/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421165-18-updatedragonborn-dlc-discussion-thread-41/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421172-18-updatedragonborn-dlc-discussion-thread-42/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421192-18-updatedragonborn-dlc-discussion-thread-43/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421221-18-updatedragonborn-dlc-discussion-thread-44/, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421272-18-updatedragonborn-dlc-discussion-thread-45/

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All of the above is speculation over new strings found in the files from the 1.8 update, and should not be treated as facts or as any proof that any of it will even make it into the game! (but you all already knew that, didn't you!... Didn't you?) They were found by comparing 1.7.7.0 files with those in 1.8.145.0. The update to the Beta (i.e. 1.8.151.0) gave no new information.

You want proof, look at http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417392-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints-thread-9/page__view__findpost__p__21660925 http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417392-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints-thread-9/page__view__findpost__p__21660876 http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417175-18-beta-update-solsthiem-dlc-hints/page__view__findpost__p__21656816 http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417057-time-for-some-spoilers-form-the-latest-beta/page__view__findpost__p__21653361, and http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1417092-hints-found-about-the-next-dlc-found-in-18-beta/page__view__findpost__p__21654653 for dragon riding. Also, http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1421192-18-updatedragonborn-dlc-discussion-thread-43/page__view__findpost__p__21749310 for the CK Update.

Also you can look through (my) Mardoxx' previous posts http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=search&andor_type=and&sid=dc5763cc2fa8668a67e4ba28567b4374&search_author=Mardoxx&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsortKey%5D=date&search_content=both&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5Bforums%5D%5B%5D=118&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BnoPreview%5D=0&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BpCount%5D=&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BpViews%5D=&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsortKey%5D=date&search_app_filters%5Bforums%5D%5BsortDir%5D=0&search_term=&search_app=forums&st=0

For official announcements, check http://www.bethblog.com/category/skyrim and the official forums here.

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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:41 pm

Thanks for making those threads Mardoxx. The quality of your threads is quite unequaled.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:16 pm

I just watched the trailer on my big hd tv through xbox live. Looks so much better than my laptop showed. So excited.
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:41 am

Guess we know what the Chieftain animations are now. It'll be that nord guy who was speaking in the video.

Miraak death animation is probably the animation for that dragon dying at the end of the vid, no? It looks different than normal dragon soul absorbing..
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:33 pm

I still want to understand how people think those square buildings with shell entrances are Hlaalu architecture...
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:19 pm

Couldn't it just be Hlaalu architecture influenced by the other houses in the town? I mean these dunmer got thrown together when they fleed Morrowind and time has passed.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:02 pm

Thanks for making those threads Mardoxx. The quality of your threads is quite unequaled.

Yes, his copy and paste abilities are magnificent.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:22 pm

I still want to understand how people think those square buildings with shell entrances are Hlaalu architecture...

Were there any square Redoran buildings?
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:36 pm

Yes, his copy and paste abilities are magnificent.

He made that stuff in the first place. And he keeps it up to date, unlike others who are just copy+paste the OP.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:05 pm

Hey mardoxx i wasnt claiming credit for the achievements, i just saw it on the new thread post and added cause i thought it was new and would raise some hype.
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Given Dawnguard's improvement over Knights of the Nine in virtually every conceivable way(Given it's sized similarly and takes place in the existing world) , I see no reason not to believe that Dragonborn may trump Shivering Isles. This is the first TES game since 2005. People saying there's no chance they'll top Shivering Isles are basing this off nothing. If anything, considering that Dawnguard was leagues better than Knights of the Nine, there's substantial evidence to support that they've improved their DLC capabilities. I don't really know people's opinions on the Fallout 3 DLC, but I feel it's irrelevant given that it's a completely different world and tone. Something like the Mothership Zeta DLC works in FO3, but something of similar length and sense of humor would feel insulting in an Elder scrolls game.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:57 pm

Were there any square Redoran buildings?

No.. but there were no Hlaalu Redoran buildings either :P
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:58 am

Thanks for making those threads Mardoxx. The quality of your threads is quite unequaled.
Thank you :)

Usually threads like these end up with information all over the place and really messy!
I was going to put links to all the proof and stuff for each bit, but thought nah that's /too/ OCD.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:16 pm

Yes, his copy and paste abilities are magnificent.
Quite. I have a document called solstheim on my desktop with the BBCode in it. http://i.imgur.com/EgH83.png
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:28 am

No.. but there were no Hlaalu Redoran buildings either :tongue:

Couldn't it just be Hlaalu architecture influenced by the other houses in the town? I mean these dunmer got thrown together when they fleed Morrowind and time has passed.

With two cultures, which two houses kind of are, this can happen. They can pick up things from each other.
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Were there any square Redoran buildings?

Nope! Khuul had a different design, but that's understandable all things considered (and still had a Redoran-styled building anyway if memory serves)

PM'd you with what I managed to dig up, btw.
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He made that stuff in the first place. And he keeps it up to date, unlike others who are just copy+paste the OP.

Heh, I was just joking anyway.


Question. What's the thing that's spitting out black nastiness at about 0:58 in the video?
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:20 am

Heh, I was just joking anyway.


Question. What's the thing that's spitting out black nastiness at about 0:58 in the video?
Someone said it was HM? IDK I'm no expert.
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:01 pm

I still believe we will get Hlaalu, Redoran, and Telvanni stuff.
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Post » Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:17 am

Given Dawnguard's improvement over Knights of the Nine in virtually every conceivable way(Given it's sized similarly and takes place in the existing world) , I see no reason not to believe that Dragonborn may trump Shivering Isles. This is the first TES game since 2005. People saying there's no chance they'll top Shivering Isles are basing this off nothing. If anything, considering that Dawnguard was leagues better than Knights of the Nine, there's substantial evidence to support that they've improved their DLC capabilities. I don't really know people's opinions on the Fallout 3 DLC, but I feel it's irrelevant given that it's a completely different world and tone. Something like the Mothership Zeta DLC works in FO3, but something of similar length and sense of humor would feel insulting in an Elder scrolls game.

I completely agree man. I have no doubt Dragonborn will blow Shivering Isles out of the water, having not played bloodmoon i cant say anything but i can tell from the trailer there is a lot of variety of content not to mention additions to gameplay such as dragon riding (which im not a fan of) but it still adds to the game regardless. Good post man.
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I still believe we will get Hlaalu, Redoran, and Telvanni stuff.

Am I crazy or is that your third avatar today?
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:11 pm

Given Dawnguard's improvement over Knights of the Nine in virtually every conceivable way(Given it's sized similarly and takes place in the existing world) , I see no reason not to believe that Dragonborn may trump Shivering Isles. This is the first TES game since 2005. People saying there's no chance they'll top Shivering Isles are basing this off nothing. If anything, considering that Dawnguard was leagues better than Knights of the Nine, there's substantial evidence to support that they've improved their DLC capabilities. I don't really know people's opinions on the Fallout 3 DLC, but I feel it's irrelevant given that it's a completely different world and tone. Something like the Mothership Zeta DLC works in FO3, but something of similar length and sense of humor would feel insulting in an Elder scrolls game.

It very well could be the best TES DLC ever.. but that means Bethesda is being a pretty generous mofo by pricing it at $20. I look back to the Shivering Isles trailer.. and we didn't even get a true taste of what was gonna happen. I mean we knew who and what we were dealing with.. but not why and how. The ending provided a shock to me, as I did not expect to
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:50 pm

Someone said it was HM? IDK I'm no expert.

:ohmy:

I would spooge.


Edit: Eh, that sounds worse than I meant it too....
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:21 pm

Question. What's the thing that's spitting out black nastiness at about 0:58 in the video?

I bet it's a lesser Daedra of Hermaeus Mora.

PM'd you with what I managed to dig up, btw.

Yeah, thank you! :smile:

With two cultures, which two houses kind of are, this can happen. They can pick up things from each other.

Sounds likely. So my point stands: there are hints on Hlaalu presence.

No.. but there were no Hlaalu Redoran buildings either :tongue:

But it's a hint there is Hlaalu stuff. That was all I wanted to point out. Some people want those merchant freaks back. :biggrin:
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Post » Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:29 pm

Heh, I was just joking anyway.


Question. What's the thing that's spitting out black nastiness at about 0:58 in the video?

My septims are on that being the often discussed Bethnic Lurker in these threads. Design fits with the name, in my opinion.
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