I've supported TES on the Xbox since 2005 if not earlier. Stop feeling so entitled because you have a lot of money to spend on a gaming computer.

It's not Beth's fault or Steam's fault. It's the retailers who are breaking the street date. Steam is doing exactly what its job is: keeping leaked copies of the game from being played.

And I've played all the TES games from Daggerfall, and I'm playing on the consoles. PC elitism has no place on these forums. Here, it makes you look pretentious and petty.

They're gonna hear it from Bethesda, if it's true. And we're also going to see a lot of video on Youtube and whatnot by ignorant buyers who thinks it's no big deal.

11.11.11 is the release date

That store is about to get a lawsuit filed against it surely they realised that would happen?

From the info I've gathered here and on other gaming forums, the street date has been widely broken in Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, and now reports are starting to come in from the UK as well...so as it stands now it seems 11/11/11 only holds true for PC version and non EU nations for the most part...whether intentional or not.

Capitalism at work.

http://www.gamemania.nl/Default.aspx?tabid=88&gmgame=25182&gmmrid=0_0#
another store who sells, ''beschikbaar'' means ''available'' so it indeed is for sale currently

here is my proof, the game, the map and my receipt

[IMG]http://i43.tinypic.com/2py3rxf.jpg[/IMG]

Don't exaggerate.Beth gets their money either way.

Got my copy today, too.But i'm still at "work". -.-

Mate im in UK, and phoned Game, where i pre-ordered it earlier today. They aren't even doing a midnight release (here, local to me) and i'm getting it Console, so while it is alot of places, it isn't Every place.

so you think the publishers will stop shipping games to retailers ?

well i suppose they could always go to car boot sales to sell the games



again...he who sells first gets the profits,if profits are down then the games going over the counter.

Individual retailers (the ones breaking street date). Not all of them.

Aye, Game pre-ordered here too and they are not doing midnight (at least my local) it is such a shame. To people who have this game enjoy it but don't post spoilers here! It is such a shame some places have broken street date however I don't think it is the end of the world ....I just hope they (people selling the game illegally) have a good legal team.

That's why I used the word "reports". I've seen two forum posts on other boards where the Brit said he got his in the mail today, and another where he supposedly walked into a shop in London today and walked out with the game. Again, I can't confirm any of this, I'm just saying what they posted.

individual retailers [if there are any anymore] wont even register on the radar.

go up the ladder of ownership and you`ll find ends up on one doorstep,which makes stopping deliverys a very risky business.

so much subderfuge has gone into this release it amazes me they know which wy is up or down,from M$ and steam sticking thier noses in to triple platform release..its all just gone bonkers.

then again the only people getting stressed over it all is the gamer .

Well, without saying it we know that some places get sued for equally 'trivial' things. In comparison this is a major thing. I am sure Bethesda and by that I mean parent company/those responsible for that side of things are going to appreciate people breaking street date unless for some silly reason the stores got a letter saying 'Just sell it on the 8th instead'. I don't really care either about the situation I am just intrested on what made the stores in question think it was a good idea to break the law.

I've worked at numerous CD / DVD / Game stores, and shops that break street date are punished by the publisher by delayed releases in the future.

Release dates are a very serious thing in the industry, and it actually has little to do with piracy, and more to do with giving smaller shops an equal chance to compete with the big retailers by being able to sell the same merchandise at the same time. That's why CD, DVD, and game releases are -typically- on Tuesdays (though as in the case of Skyrim, they sometimes release on Fridays as well) - it was the industry decided upon day for releases. If retailers were able to sell it whenever, then the mom and pop spots wouldn't be able to compete with the major retailers who get the product weeks in advance.

Yes, working in these types of stores, our stores have sat on product for up to a month sometimes before we can sell it. It is not an "arbitrary" release date, and I'm sure these individual locations will hear from Bethesda.

Well I can pick up my (PC) copy as of today. So apperantly some stores break street date.

I'm really happy though, even though Steam makes sure I can't play till 11-11-11 (and I'm fine with that, still have exams). I just have nothing to stress over anymore, which is nice!

too bad we dont have this kind of luck where i am. I'd be overjoyed if the futureshop i pre-ordered my 360 collectors edition of Skyrim from had started selling them. The wait really is unbearable lol especially when other people are getting to take the game home as early as a week before the release date. I kinda wish Bethesda would just say "well, people are taking it home already, we might as well break the launch date and just release it, people clearly want it" but as if such a stroke of luck would happen.

I've really not seen so much hype for a game in a very long time.I think the last time was Super Mario 64 or Ocarina of Time.

Ask them if they are aware of the street date issue after you have paid for and have your copy. I would love to hear their story on why it was ok for them to sell ahead of everyone else...

I got message for Puolenkuunpelit (gamestore) today that I would get my skyrim (pc) tomorrow. It should come to our mailbox.

Stores do break street date.

In my time working in the field, our district managers and stuff would constantly send us communication, watching stores in the area that had broken, and giving us the notice that release had officially been broken and we could start selling too. It absolutely does happen all the time, and those individual retailers will be and are punished for it.

Cause they didnt want to wait and they told bethesda to screw off?

This is unfair
I called my locale gamestop this morning and asked if i can get my copy early and they said "No".