Thats not why. At least not for me. I wanted werebears since the launch of Skyrim but after the game jam I know they can do Werebears.

How about:

Toggle-able Night Eye both in and out of Beastform
The ability to open up the favorites menu and switch Howls like the Vampire Lord can rather than having to travel all the way to the Underforge every time you want to do something different
Werewolf characters that actually like being werewolves, and talk about it?
More perks in human form to showcase your augmented abilities (detect life, increased unarmed damage, stamina boost, to name a few)
Forced Lunar Transformations where you stay in beastfrom the entire night when the moon is full (can be countered with the Ring of Hircine)
New Howls, such as Howl of the New Moon, which darkens the area and makes it harder for enemies to see you
The ability to Sneak in Beastform
An actual werewolf faction that enjoys being werewolves, is dedicated to Hircine, and operates as a fully self-sufficient society in which the player can live in complete separation from the rest of Skyrim, except when they're going to hunt
Wolves being friendly to untransformed werewolves
Werewolf followers that actually transform
The ability to alter the look of your beastform (fur, scars, etc)

That's just off the top of my head. For more ideas, including some things that could (and in my opinion, should) be done with vampires, please click the link in my signature.

I just want a grittier Skyrim with anything Daedric, Lycanthrope or necromancer involved . . . something that makes out stomach turn but our mouth water

I wouldn't mind that either. I always wondered why I can be a VL numerous times. But I'm only able to be a werewolf twice? And your right other than lore on the VL. I still think vampires could use another overhaul. I would gladly love more stuff on vampires and lycanthropes. Also check out http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1400513-an-idea-of-how-vampires-and-werewolves-could-have-been-done-thread-5/He purposes some good ideas.

I don't quite understand the fascination with this. I think this just stems from the game jam, people saw werebear, and so that is their point of reference. Had they never seen it, there would be significantly less interest in werecreatures.

Werebears is a good idea, especially when there is the fact that the game takes place in Skyrim, the province where Werebears are most common. But I doubt that they will be added in. After Dawnguard, we already have the new Vampire Lord and not to mention, perk trees for both Vampire Lord and Werewolves. I just don't see them adding on another beast to transform into. Dawnguard was all about the vampires and the vampire lords. Making a DLC about Werebears would just make all of this kind of cliche. Should Werebears been in the game before? Of course, but I believe it's a little too late for it now.




To be honest, I don't want any DLC involving some boring Thalmor revenge plot, Snow Elves, or Dwemer. Dawnguard pretty much told us enough about the Snow Elves already, and I don't know what else they could do with them. Dwemer aren't that interesting anymore. We wonder their ruins all the time, and even go into some giant underground Dwarven city. That's enough for me. The Thalmor just aren't DLC worthy to me. Yeah, their evil and people want to kill them. There is nothing really that special about them and I don't see anything unique coming out of it.

What we do need, is more things involving Daedra and Daedric Princes, perhaps even Oblivion. That was one thing I loved about TES IV, and they made it even better by going into Sheogorath's Madhouse.

How about:

Toggle-able Night Eye both in and out of Beastform
The ability to open up the favorites menu and switch Howls like the Vampire Lord can rather than having to travel all the way to the Underforge every time you want to do something different
Werewolf characters that actually like being werewolves, and talk about it?
More perks in human form to showcase your augmented abilities (detect life, increased unarmed damage, stamina boost, to name a few)
Forced Lunar Transformations where you stay in beastfrom the entire night when the moon is full (can be countered with the Ring of Hircine)
New Howls, such as Howl of the New Moon, which darkens the area and makes it harder for enemies to see you
The ability to Sneak in Beastform
An actual werewolf faction that enjoys being werewolves, is dedicated to Hircine, and operates as a fully self-sufficient society in which the player can live in complete separation from the rest of Skyrim, except when they're going to hunt
Wolves being friendly to untransformed werewolves
Werewolf followers that actually transform
The ability to alter the look of your beastform (fur, scars, etc)

That's just off the top of my head. For more ideas, including some things that could (and in my opinion, should) be done with vampires, please click the link in my signature.

How about:

Toggle-able Night Eye both in and out of Beastform
The ability to open up the favorites menu and switch Howls like the Vampire Lord can rather than having to travel all the way to the Underforge every time you want to do something different
Werewolf characters that actually like being werewolves, and talk about it?
More perks in human form to showcase your augmented abilities (detect life, increased unarmed damage, stamina boost, to name a few)
Forced Lunar Transformations where you stay in beastfrom the entire night when the moon is full (can be countered with the Ring of Hircine)
New Howls, such as Howl of the New Moon, which darkens the area and makes it harder for enemies to see you
The ability to Sneak in Beastform
An actual werewolf faction that enjoys being werewolves, is dedicated to Hircine, and operates as a fully self-sufficient society in which the player can live in complete separation from the rest of Skyrim, except when they're going to hunt
Wolves being friendly to untransformed werewolves
Werewolf followers that actually transform
The ability to alter the look of your beastform (fur, scars, etc)

That's just off the top of my head. For more ideas, including some things that could (and in my opinion, should) be done with vampires, please click the link in my signature.

Redundant variation? Like every new sword, mace, and claymore bethesda adds to the game? Skyrim is Bethesda's last chance to add werebears, since this is the province they're pretty much exclusive to.

Well, instead of turning into a big brown hairy wolf, you turn into a big brown hairy bear. So basically, just a fat wolf.

And a character model surely won't be enough to satisfy the people who want this, so they will need a perk tree. Will the bear gain strength by feeding? Will there be a damage increase? Isn't Hircine the daedric lord who created all lycanthropy, so won't the totems of hircine still work for bears? When you consider how an application of this feature will work in game, it basically is identical or nearly identical in overlapping of what already exists. Its just a rotund werewolf.

Well, instead of turning into a big brown hairy wolf, you turn into a big brown hairy bear. So basically, just a fat wolf.

And a character model surely won't be enough to satisfy the people who want this, so they will need a perk tree. Will the bear gain strength by feeding? Will there be a damage increase? Isn't Hircine the daedric lord who created all lycanthropy, so won't the totems of hircine still work for bears? When you consider how an application of this feature will work in game, it basically is identical or nearly identical in overlapping of what already exists. Its just a rotund werewolf.

Well, instead of turning into a big brown hairy wolf, you turn into a big brown hairy bear. So basically, just a fat wolf.

And a character model surely won't be enough to satisfy the people who want this, so they will need a perk tree. Will the bear gain strength by feeding? Will there be a damage increase? Isn't Hircine the daedric lord who created all lycanthropy, so won't the totems of hircine still work for bears? When you consider how an application of this feature will work in game, it basically is identical or nearly identical in overlapping of what already exists. Its just a rotund werewolf.

Well, instead of turning into a big brown hairy wolf, you turn into a big brown hairy bear. So basically, just a fat wolf.

And a character model surely won't be enough to satisfy the people who want this, so they will need a perk tree. Will the bear gain strength by feeding? Will there be a damage increase? Isn't Hircine the daedric lord who created all lycanthropy, so won't the totems of hircine still work for bears? When you consider how an application of this feature will work in game, it basically is identical or nearly identical in overlapping of what already exists. Its just a rotund werewolf.

Well, instead of turning into a big brown hairy wolf, you turn into a big brown hairy bear. So basically, just a fat wolf.

And a character model surely won't be enough to satisfy the people who want this, so they will need a perk tree. Will the bear gain strength by feeding? Will there be a damage increase? Isn't Hircine the daedric lord who created all lycanthropy, so won't the totems of hircine still work for bears? When you consider how an application of this feature will work in game, it basically is identical or nearly identical in overlapping of what already exists. Its just a rotund werewolf.

So with that logic we should all just have an iron sword and iron armor because they all do the same thing and play the same way they all just look different. I don't understad how a Bear and a Wolf will play the same.

So don't have the same totems for werebears. In my thread I suggested two Roars that would be different (though I kept the Fear one). One would disarm opponents, and the other would boost your stamina and health regen like Adrenaline Rush and Histskin combined.


The races in Skyrim are practically identical anyway, aside from one different ability (that most people never use) and the character model.

Sure, it'd be easy for Bethesda to make werebears essentially the same as werewolves, but that's if they don't really put any creative thought into it and just copy paste things and then add a few minor changes. There's a lot of things that they could do different to make the two strains feel and behave differently.

Making the werebear half as fast ( or less ) then a werewolf but 2-3 times as strong for one could make them feel different, being able to take more of a beating as a werebear would also make them feel different. There's all kinds of little differences that they could make between the two that would lead to them feeling completely different.

Making the werebear half as fast ( or less ) then a werewolf but 2-3 times as strong for one could make them feel different, being able to take more of a beating as a werebear would also make them feel different. There's all kinds of little differences that they could make between the two that would lead to them feeling completely different.

I just still feel like vampirism and lycanthropy have been afterthought in TES games lately. We finally get DLC that tries flesh vampirism a bit, albeit not as we hoped(I mean seriously you call this a vampire overhaul) and you had some people crying foul over that. Is it really too much to ask for them flesh it out a little more? They don't have to make a DLC centered around lycanthropy just improve on them.

Think of it like Gun runners arsenal for New Vegas, it doesn't add new quests or anything but it improves upon the already existing guns. This would satisfy the werewolves out there, not an entire expansion on Lycanthropy but a little DLC that improves upon them and maybe adds a couple little side quests, people, what ever.

Think of it like Gun runners arsenal for New Vegas, it doesn't add new quests or anything but it improves upon the already existing guns. This would satisfy the werewolves out there, not an entire expansion on Lycanthropy but a little DLC that improves upon them and maybe adds a couple little side quests, people, what ever.

I wouldn't mind a Lycanthropy DLC but it wouldn't kill me if Bethesda doesn't make on. It would be pretty cool to visit The Hunting Grounds and see Lord Hircine once again

And that could be the little DLC you visit the Hunting grounds to unlock the new stuff, this in turn would open up for werewolves that could infect you with true Lycanthropy, Hircine could grant you newer better powers ( like becoming a werebear ) and introduce you to a clan of Hircine followers back in Skyrim upon returning. BAM there's a little werewolf DLC that's enough to satisfy the werewolf buffs like myself.

And the small werewolf stronghold,that would be perfect.Or big

And that could be the little DLC you visit the Hunting grounds to unlock the new stuff, this in turn would open up for werewolves that could infect you with true Lycanthropy, Hircine could grant you newer better powers ( like becoming a werebear ) and introduce you to a clan of Hircine followers back in Skyrim upon returning. BAM there's a little werewolf DLC that's enough to satisfy the werewolf buffs like myself.

I thought it would've been a good idea to include all of the different variations of werebeast in the TES lore, and have a quest line about the conflicts between them all.
There are seven, in total, (not including a one-off weredaedroth created by Hircne) which could amount to seven seperate guilds/organizations/clans, with each subtype having their own benefits and goals.

They'd all behave differently, as to accommodate different interests, i.e. the wereboars being greedy, werelions being prideful, etc.
Maybe the ultimate goal would be to usurp the percieved top-spot that the Werewolves have under Hircine, as they are the most common and favored type of werebeast in his employ.

I don't actually want to be any kind of were creature, but if I ever did it would be a nice to have more than just one option.