CHIM.

NO!
We do not talk about CHIM in this parts , stranger

I imagine this to be quite the plausible possibility, Mehrunes Dagon has/had a beef with the Tribunal and although Vivec by not have been involved in his banishing, Vivec was the next best thing with Almalexia and Sotha Sil's deaths.

I do. CHIM is official lore, even if we disregard monkeytruth.

Aside from the Tribunal, he is arguably the single greatest Dunmer Mage. Ever.

Can probably just about drop the Dunmer part and the statement would be true.

I imagine that far down the road the mage community will talk about Divayth Fyr as the mages currently do with Shalidor.

I think you're absolutely correct. Fyr is still alive and probably could be readily compared to Shalidor.

What is CHIM?

Read the 36 Lessons of Vivec.

Or wait until someone shows up and explains it. I am very lazy right now.
Short explanation: The world is a dream and CHIM is realizing you are part of the dream but remain an individual. If you reach CHIM you can control the cosmos and are pretty much a divine being.

No, every TES game made up until Skyrim was during the life time of Uriel Septim.

His power didn't seem to help him much when the Nerevarine used Trueflame to carve him up...oh wait, never mind.

Redguard took place in Tiber Septims time.

Divyath fyr is way too old to be an apprentice but think about this each of his clones is named after a greek letter and gamma is skipped. It would explain the artifacts and the missing clone.

Interestingly, I didn't know/remember the timescale of Battlespire, and so far I've imagined that it's indeed Divayth Fyr. I don't even know why though, just kinda liked the idea. I haven't played the game myself so I don't know what the hints are.

But, unfortunately, now that I checked, Divayth was around his 4000 years even during Battlespire. That is, Battlespire's UESPWiki article says its time period is 3E, between 389 and 399. The events of Morrowind take place only 28-38 years later, which is a very short time for Divayth. I don't think he was an apprentice of any kind so recently.

It would be interesting to hear something about this "Gamme Fyr". But how exactly would his "daughters" explain the artifacts? You lost me there. I checked what Divayth had in MW, and if every artifact of his starts with each of his daughter's name's first letter or something. No, apparently.

You're not the only one who thought Divayth Fyr was the hero from Battlespire. For years fans have speculated in the beginning, due to the fact that alot of the artifacts he has the hero of Battlespire had aquired them.

Divayth Fyr is a 4,000+ year old Telvanni Arch-Sorceror who was so powerful that even Daedric Princes gave him a wide berth. He was easily by far the most powerful spellcaster in all of eastern Tamriel (If not all of Tamriel). Only a select few beings such as Liches, Vampire Ancients or the Tribunal are older than him. Divayth Fyr was on the same power level as Mannimarco before he became the God of Worms (Revenant Moon). Like said before, Divayth Fyr was well known for trafficking with the Daedric Princes, and doing so on even terms. He helped author several books upon the subject of Daedra, and is one of the few spellcaster's who know how to open portals directly into the Oblivion realms. He's one of the only mortals to ever visit Apocrypha and return. Divayth Fyr was so ingenious, that he was able to create a potion that could purge the negative effects (Deformity, Insanity) from a divine curse/gift (Corprus), while retaining the benefits (Agelessness, immunity to Diseases). Divayth Fyr was also the caretaker and friend of the last known living Dwemer, Yagrum Bagarn, tonal architect to Artificer-Lord Kagrenac.
Divayth Fyr could've went "Kamehameha" all over Ancano's ass even when he controlled the Eye of Magnus. Divayth Fyr could make the Thalmor shake in their boots and piss their pants. The list could go on and on, but to put it simply, he was a pure Bad Ass Mother [censored].

Except Divayth Fyr isn't hopped up on divine steroids. Once Mystra died and Elminster lost the Chosen powers she had bestowed upon him, he was still a powerful Mage, but not the most powerful one by far. Larloch, Szass Tam, Telamont Tanthul, Rivalen Tanthul, or any other number of Archmages could've kicked his ass up and down Faerun then. Especially considering how Elminster was finally killed by Manshoon, a middle ranking Mage. All of the power that Divayth Fyr has, he's earned himself.


Vivec was taken by the Daedra, Azura specifically. She held a trial to hold him accountable for the crime of breaking his oath to her and Nerevar. Vivec had several mortals acquire the reagents (which he said was evidence) he'd need for a ritual, and in performing this ritual, he somehow used CHIM to banish Azura from Mundus. I don't believe Vivec actually attained true CHIM, considering he wouldn't of needed the reagents for the ritual if he had achieved true CHIM.

He was also probably the closest thing Sotha Sil had to a friend and a colleague - and the only person in exsistance who could talk shop with him.

CHIM sounds stupid. Skyrim is not a dream, its a game. duh -.-

Eh, Skyrim is not the world, its but one province of Tamriel which itself is a smaller part of Nirn (and again Mundus).

You can also swap out the dream part and replace it with the person realising they are just a character in a video game.

Diyvath Fyr was par o the Chimeri exodus. He survived Morrowind's conquest — three times. He definitely was prepared for one little red year.

i would love to see Diyvath Fyr in dragonborn!!!!! they brought saint Juib back in dawnguard (sort of) so why not Diyvath Fyr

Whoever he is, he sounds like an interesting guy!

I think you should open up a bit to a more esoteric approach. To disregard the concept as "stupid" without a real reason is not the smartest thing to do.
It's not a question whether Skyrim is "real" or not.
It's a question of reality and its perception itself. CHIM doesn't change a thing for those not able to grasp it. And you are saying "Skyrim is a game" - well, that's how CHIM was born as idea. An ingame character who is aware about his role in a game. The term "dream" and "game" are interchangeable here. You really should try read up on the subject.
If you disregard it after you really understood it, okay. But given the really short explanation I gave you... that's no basis deeming it stupid.


CHIM does not me omnipotency.
And Azura did not held the trial. Vivec himself started his trial regarding the crime of the murder on Nerevar.
It was a trick to get Azura as witness there so he can banish her. A trap. The "Trial of Vivec" clearly states that beyond Mundus, Azura wasn't fully within Vivecs grasp. She is a Daedric Prince after all. In her own realm she is pretty much invincible, even for a CHIMster - but the moment she arrived in the Mundus, Vivec ripped her apart und banished the remains to Oblivion.

This Divayth Fyr dude sounds awesome

although a chat about him with my friends devolved into... something strange... after i mentioned the clone-daughter-wives

although i came up with a solution to a problem: my skyrim main char is a descendent of my OB main char (once i make her), and i want to do the same for TES VI, but my charac ter married a woman,
so maybe cloning is the way to go. perhaps combine the.. well, idk how TES genetics work, but a similar process to what Divayth Fyr did to create his clones, but by combining the TES equivalent of DNA of Erissa and Aela somehow for a "daughter" or "son"

wait. so a npc ingame thought he was in a game world? and that he is just a character of a game? wow, very optimistic of him.