Mans1ayer needs to make a skyrim battles video when this comes out on pc

would that even be possible?
the only vampire lords in the game is yourself and harkon,and im pretty sure harkon was some what scripted.

Vampiric Grip. Grap the silly Wolf, and throw him off a cliff. Done.

I no longer need to spam my powers, I can call in 2 werewolves to aid or I can just go toe to toe. It's my power swipe that you should worry about, if I get you on your back it's game over in seconds. Or I can have a little fun and play with my prey a little before I kill it.
Legendary dragons are a joke as a werewolf, you can still out run them if you choose to and when their on the ground all you need to do is avoid the mouth and the tail. Stay at their side and slash away, if they try to take off then I power swipe to keep them in spot. Both my paws are doing around 160 damage ( I don't remember the exact number ) and I can swing them as fast as a pair of daggers, if I use the brother hood howl then that adds an additional 4 paws all doing the same amount of damage, all swinging just as fast and all able to do the same power swipe. Right now with the perk tree filled out I have 600-700 stamina, and 500-600 health plus the Lord stone then you add in the fact that I'm an Orc that can use Beserker rage before changing into a werewolf and I can cast Dragonhide before changing, there isn't anything any VL can do that will even dent my werewolf.

how does anyone even know vampiric grip or paralyze will even work on a player controlled werewolf or the werewolf ragdolling attack would work on a vampire lord also this thread just seems like a twilight thing "oh VL is sooooooo darth vadery go team edwa....VL" "OMG werewolfs are so...so.......wolfy dhshhadhdfhdgdgdfhd*wolfgasm*"

how does anyone even know vampiric grip or paralyze will even work on a player controlled werewolf or the werewolf ragdolling attack would work on a vampire lord also this thread just seems like a twilight thing "oh VL is sooooooo darth vadery go team edwa....VL" "OMG werewolfs are so...so.......wolfy dhshhadhdfhdgdgdfhd*wolfgasm*"

I tried the vampiric grip on sinding and it didn't work.

Shame there is no multiplayer to test that lol and you said you used howls, I never need magic or anything other than claws to take out dragons or werewolves of higher levels as a vampire and in terms of sheer advantages, VL is superior, however, they also have the most disadvantages such as sunlight, fire and get extra damage from silver/dawnguard weaponry.

No question that both creatures are powerful but speaking in terms of powers and attacks, Vampire lord is the stronger one, their claws can poison you, they can heal with power attacks and can have a field of bats around them. They can hover over water and therefore move faster than anything that needs to swim.
Werewolves are strong and can knock creatures flying and like you said though, once a werewolf gets something on it's back it is usually game over but that won't be a fair fight if you do not let your opponent even get up or have a chance to engage you in fair combat and so that would forfeit a fair one on one fight between a vampire lord (no magic) and a werewolf (no running attacks or knock back/down attack ) and would not count as a victory.

In terms of a full on fight with all tactics and a werewolf could be allowed to use its knockdowns and ragdoll attacks etc and where a vampire lord can use its magic, vampire lord would be superior since they can telekinetically throw a werewolf around and even kill it instantly by throwing it down a mountain or stairs. A werewolf that got the drop on it and/or used its attacks first though is another story and if you keep attacking it while its down or knocking it down again then a werewolf would win. In the end, they are both powerful dangerous creatures with their own advantages and disadvantages. It also depends on the player's skill. We could wait for a youtube video to pit them against eachother as there is someone who does requests. In one video, the wild vampires who cannot turn into VL wiped the floor with the werewolves when they were pitted against each other.

Vampires can easily kill werewolves just as much as vice versa but since they were created by hircine, of course they would be superior hunters but that does not make them superior monsters. Volkihar master vampires can be lethal if you ain't prepared for them. Werewolves, I have never had trouble dealing with them.

Charge one head on they Can use Vampiric Grip to throw you, try run around them the same thing will happen. We only need to lock onto you for a second for the grab to work, then we spam the Paralyzing spell to keep you on the ground. Get too close we turn into bats and get behind you, paralyze and repeat. Mist form can also make us invulnerable to damage, rendering your attack useless.

I would imagine it would be difficult to follow the Mist as well if it got out of your line of sight. And we can also slow time with our "Supernatural Reflexes" to even the field when it comes to speed. Werewolves may be threatening, but between being Paralyzed and tossed like a ragdoll there isn't logically much else you can do to us. If you call the Werewolves we can summon Gargoyles, and while they aren't nearly as strong the AI has a habit of honing in on them. You can either jump in to kill them, or run past towards the Lord. In which case the Lord can toss you, repeat steps above. Not to mentioned with you Paralyzed the called Werewolves will be as easy to deal with as the Gargoyles. All we have to do is keep you immobile.

All your buffs are pointless if you can't move. You may be able to destroy just about everything in Close Range, but Vampire Lords are more built to combat Werewolves than other creatures. The only way you can win is if going against the AI, like Harkon, and we all know Computers =/= Human skill. There is no way for a Werewolf to handle a full Powered Vampire Lord.

The only way for victory is if you sneak up on us, which will be fairly difficult given our detect life Spell. And Werewolves aren't the quietest runners either. If you can think of any other way to win other than sneaking, besides blindly charging in with your claws of doom ,which doesn't even come close to the 'intelligent strategy' line, I would be more than happy to hear it.

theres alot of biased answers here from VL and WW fans so here's an unbiased one because i dont like either:

VL powers are impressive but dont compare to a WW's speed and claws. I can charge in with a power attack that stuns most things, then either go crazy claws or stick and move...i took out an ancient dragon as a WW on expert without much problem

how does anyone even know vampiric grip or paralyze will even work on a player controlled werewolf or the werewolf ragdolling attack would work on a vampire lord also this thread just seems like a twilight thing "oh VL is sooooooo darth vadery go team edwa....VL" "OMG werewolfs are so...so.......wolfy dhshhadhdfhdgdgdfhd*wolfgasm*"

The werewolf has one severe disadvantage. They don't have health regeneration. Lets say this fight is on an open field, no cliffs, no water, etc. It would be interesting to say the least...and very close on the victor. Can't we agree they're both epic?

Nothing a good potion cannot solve. Fortify health and health regain potions carry over when consumed before changing, besides we can feed off of anything now with the new perk tree

That is true...good points. Still, on an open field, no corpses, 1 on 1 vamp lord vs. werewolf, it would be a close fight...Or 3 on 3 once you call your werewolf brothers and the vamp lord summons his gargoyles.

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Go to general discussion and look up my topic call " A call to the wolf pack ", you will see just how prepared I am to face you fangers There are members of the pack that have a 80% magic resistance while in werewolf form, then there are werewolves like myself that are " beserker " werewolves ( I'm an Orc ) which have a huge health and stamina pool on top of the extra from the perk tree, on top of the Lord stone, on top of Beserker rage and verious spells that can be cast before changing into a werewolf. Then there's the different hunting tactics that the pack has developed over 3 months of trial and error testing.