Who is truly stronger? possible spoiler : V - Skyrim

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:59 am

Sure I can. Those two other werewolves are relatively weak compared to my character. I just keep using my drain life and they turn into a couple of health packs with claws. The only real threat is the werewolf that summoned them. In the end, it comes down to who can stunlock the other first. Finally, I'm pretty sure I can keep you down until you revert back to a more manageable size.

All it takes is one to repeatedly stun lock u, then the others will get u then ur done. Keep dreaming if u think u can keep me at bay while all three of us r in ur face. U try to stun lock 1, or drain health 1, the others r all over u. Gargoyles or no gargoyles. Especially with a low health mage VL, who focuses on magicka.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:09 pm

All it takes is one to repeatedly stun lock u, then the others will get u then ur done. Keep dreaming if u think u can keep me at bay while all three of us r in ur face. U try to stun lock 1, or drain health 1, the others r all over u. Gargoyles or no gargoyles. Especially with a low health mage VL, who focuses on magicka.

I have over 600 health. And I hate to break it to you, but allied AI svcks. As long as I keep moving, your wolves would have a hard time touching me. The fact of the matter is that werewolves are good for four things.
1. Running
2. Dishing out melee damage on one target
3. Licking its own anus
4. Dying

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:08 pm

I have over 600 health. And I hate to break it to you, but allied AI svcks. As long as I keep moving, your wolves would have a hard time touching me. The fact of the matter is that werewolves are good for four things.
1. Running
2. Dishing out melee damage on one target
3. Licking its own anus
4. Dying

U obviously dont know 1. How fast werewolves r. Getting u is easy for the AI. 1 power attack, then ur on ur way to stun lock central. 2. How strong my claws r, 600 or so health is nothing. 3. If u have that much health, ur magicka's not very high, making ur VL inferior, and way easier for me to deal with. And on a side note, u have NO armor. U know how fast u'd die once our claws connect?

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:53 am

I have over 600 health. And I hate to break it to you, but allied AI svcks. As long as I keep moving, your wolves would have a hard time touching me. The fact of the matter is that werewolves are good for four things.
1. Running
2. Dishing out melee damage on one target
3. Licking its own anus
4. Dying

While vamps are only good at flying away into the middle of the lake and magic missile from there. Not to mention being Molag's little six slaves. And so we have come to trading insults now. How degrading. You can keep moving as much as you want but the original WW will get to you then before extras do, and if you try to shake him off extras will be all over you.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:06 pm

I've played as both and enjoyed them but can honestly say in a Pvp situation I would prefer to be a werewolf. Yes the VL has some great spells but I would rather have superior speed, strength, health and stamina over magicka any day. The VLs have a far smaller margin for error than werewolves do as a werewolf can close the gap so quickly. One miss with a spell and its game over for the VLs. On the other hand wolves can easily get high magicka resistance in wolf form and even if one is knocked down the other two will finish the job.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:29 pm

Perhaps they decided thats it's better to keep this one topic going then have another 10 appear within the next 24 hours like it happened before

Doubtful that they are letting it happen as It is the forum rules that threads have to be closed after hitting 200. If they are letting it happen then they are breaking the rules.

No offence or anything but can everyone please grow the [censored] up, you all acting like school kids, "oh vampires are better than werewolves" "no, werewolves are better than vampires" give it a bloody rest already, debate in a mature manner.

"six slave and anus licking" seriously? stop acting immature.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:23 pm

U obviously dont know 1. How fast werewolves r. Getting u is easy for the AI. 2. How strong my claws r, 600 or so health is nothing. 3. If u have that much health, ur magicka's not very high, making ur VL inferior, and way easier for me to deal with.

He has over 1000 magicka. And yes, I do know how fast they are. I've played as one for 3/4 of the game. In fact, I know them quite well.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:32 am

He has over 1000 magicka. And yes, I do know how fast they are. I've played as one for 3/4 of the game. In fact, I know them quite well.

I really doubt u have over 1000 magicka since the bonus to magicka is like 200 for VL's

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:32 pm

While vamps are only good at flying away into the middle of the lake and magic missile from there. Not to mention being Molag's little six slaves. And so we have come to trading insults now. How degrading. You can keep moving as much as you want but the original WW will get to you then before extras do, and if you try to shake him off extras will be all over you.

I'm not insulting any1.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:08 pm

I really doubt u have over 1000 magicka since the bonus to magicka is like 200 for VL's

His exact number is 1010. Under 1000 if in sunlight.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:57 pm

His exact number is 1010. Under 1000 if in sunlight.

How? u said ur health is 600, that leaves 400 for magicka if ur a level 81, so thats 500 magicka plus maybe 200 for being a VL. How u get over 1000?

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:55 pm

I have over 600 health. And I hate to break it to you, but allied AI svcks. As long as I keep moving, your wolves would have a hard time touching me. The fact of the matter is that werewolves are good for four things.
1. Running
2. Dishing out melee damage on one target
3. Licking its own anus
4. Dying

This I'm preety sure qualifies as an insult on WW's

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:22 pm

This I'm preety sure qualifies as an insult on WW's

Wasnt me, I'm saying. U said "we've" but its just him.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:09 am

How? u said ur health is 600, that leaves 400 for magicka if ur a level 81, so thats 500 magicka plus maybe 200 for being a VL. How u get over 1000?

Oh, lol, my bad. My health is at 811 with ring of the beast. There's a little perk called necromage that apparently does funny things to vampire lords.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:28 pm

Oh, lol, my bad. My health is at 811 with ring of the beast. There's a little perk called necromage that apparently does funny things to vampire lords.

Even if ur magicka was still 1000 and ur health 811, thats just a difference of 4 claw attacks and 5 or 6. Quick still. Magicka aint nuthin if u gettin stun locked and cant use a spell.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:01 pm

Even if ur magicka was still 1000 and ur health 811, thats just a difference of 4 claw attacks and 5 or 6. Quick still.

And I would be regenerating health the entire time, while your wolves couldn't regen anything. If they could, it might be a different story.

Edit: And I'm pretty sure gargoyles can also stun lock, despite their low health. They also absorb health.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:08 pm

And I would be regenerating health the entire time, while your wolves couldn't regen anything. If they could, it might be a different story.

I'm assuming u mean the bats. U r foolish if u think they would regen u enough to not be killed from claws waking u with over 100 damage each time as fast as they do. Have u seen how fast werewolves slice with their hands? And they DEFINITELY wouldnt kill us b4 we killed u up close. Argument seriously flawed and biased.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:44 pm

Where the hell r the moderators? Lol, fine with me. This topic is fun.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:09 pm

I'm assuming u mean the bats. U r foolish if u think they would regen u enough to not be killed from claws waking u with over 100 damage each time as fast as they do. Have u seen how fast werewolves slice with their hands?

No. I mean gargoyles. Bats are absolutely useless. The fact of the matter is that vampire lords have way more health, and can attack from a distance. As a werewolf, I had around half the health I have as a vampire lord. And as I said before, as long as I kept you stun locked, the werewolf summons are easy kills.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:07 pm

And I would be regenerating health the entire time, while your wolves couldn't regen anything. If they could, it might be a different story.

It takes 2 seconds to charge and fire a spell while a werewolf can cover 50ft in 4.5 seconds. At over 50ft a werewolf can easily dodge spells so this gives the vamp a chance to fire two spells from each hand against three wolves. Right hand is always drainball so you can drain how much health before the VL is stun locked? I also just checked and a VL cannot stun enemies with melee attacks, not to mention their poor stamina levels.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:17 pm

No. I mean gargoyles. Bats are absolutely useless. The fact of the matter is that vampire lords have way more health, and can attack from a distance. As a werewolf, I had around half the health I have as a vampire lord. And as I said before, as long as I kept you stun locked, the werewolf summons are easy kills.

You can't keep WW stuned and concetrate on extra WW's at the same time

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:18 pm

No. I mean gargoyles. Bats are absolutely useless. The fact of the matter is that vampire lords have way more health, and can attack from a distance. As a werewolf, I had around half the health I have as a vampire lord. And as I said before, as long as I kept you stun locked, the werewolf summons are easy kills.

More health? False. I have 850, no enchantments. Gargoyles? Weak. weak melee too, so they dont factor. U'd still be dead with all three of us WW's on u. As a WW, u were probably a mage, so u put points in magicka, whereas I'm a warrior, so i dont. Thats why u had less health, and theres no ring to improve that for WW's since we dont need it. U wouldnt stun lock me, since my ww's would stun u soon as u tried. Then ur done. As for distance goes, WW sprint>VL flying.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:15 am

You can't keep WW stuned and concetrate on extra WW's at the same time

Drain life is an AOE. So yes, I could.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:57 pm

It takes 2 seconds to charge and fire a spell while a werewolf can cover 50ft in 4.5 seconds. At over 50ft a werewolf can easily dodge spells so this gives the vamp a chance to fire two spells from each hand against three wolves. Right hand is always drainball so you can drain how much health before the VL is stun locked? I also just checked and a VL cannot stun enemies with melee attacks, not to mention their poor stamina levels.

I think he means with the grip, by grabbing and releasing, which seems pointless to do to me.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:27 am

Drain life is an AOE. So yes, I could.

That doesnt stun, so no u cant...