Lately I've been finding my wife and I are using our consoles more as media gateways than gaming devices anyway (we use the kinect voice functions to navigate Netflix and play movies, basically.)

So all this sounds like stuff that at least pertains to my interests as a console user.

As with every previous console (for me at least) it all comes down to the games anyway. In the long run ill likely end up with both an XBOX and a PS4, but which one I get first will depend on which game comes out that I can't get on PC that I really want to play.

You don't need to use it. Only have it.

Did you guys not notice the controller?

If they mention no used games at E3, I would go to bed happy if they get booed by the crowd, considering a lot of the E3 crowd is other gamers, not just the boring orderly peoples at the XBOX reveal.

Booed off stage would be a bonus.

But everyone will somehow love it, and mindlessly devour all of Microsoft's corrupted goods, destroying future entertainment for the rest of us and giving the heartless more reason to celebrate.

Microsoft is not so much invested in the BluRay part because that is mostly done by Sony and Toshiba they are pretty much invested in the TV market now though. Also since the new Xbox uses BluRay Microsoft will have to pay licensing fees to Sony.

So if something goes wrong with the Kinect we can't use the Xbox. Now a need to worry about two pieces of hardware.

They confirmed it. It's up on this thread somewhere.

Their conference at E3 is industry only (the one they stream).

Just like the reveal was.

Yeah I know they confirmed it I posted a article about it as well.

How much they paying you?

Some rooms, which are small, won't work with Kinect either. I think this is a serious problem!

You'll still need to plug the Kinect in and set it up!

Oh God they're the worst company on Earth... Yes, worse than EA and that slimy dude they had to do their conference at the reveal.

I think this explains it best I think----> http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp212/sbcmarine81/WTFMicrosoft_zpsa5ba66fd.png .

For being reasonable and logical? Zero dollars.

And why am I being paid when I am stating facts, regarding E3? E3 is an industry only event. PAX is the one that is open to public.

Kinect breaks or malfunctions can't use the box. Logical!

Man, I was actually excited for this throughout school

I wanted to see some good stuff; new games, especially Ryse which went dark a year or two ago, I don't care about all this TV and Skype stuff that much on my GAMING console.

Guess it's time to either PC game or get a PS4, although I didn't see that conference yet, just saw the announcements and stuff after it, how was it?

Jumping to conclusions. Logical!

E3 is an industry event. It is for investors and some press.

That's what I said.

Even though it has been stated the XBOX One will not function without Kinect. Yet he's jumping to conclusions? Or are you burying your head in the sand?

I watched the first half of the PS4 conference, where they talked about the console itself. Its hardware wasn't bad, but the tech demos weren't a massive improvement or (as you would expect) anything comparable to a PC. Still, I'd say that their focus on games was welcome in comparison to Microsoft. I loved my Xbox 360, so had some real high hopes. I was looking forward to some 1080P Forza 5 gameplay and loads of hot new games!

Not gonna buy either PS4 or Xbox One, but PS4 looks much better than Xbox one. I liked how Sony wanted to make the gaming experience better and that was a big focus, this doesn't seem to be the same for Microsoft. Seems like this new Xbox is just nice hardware with software which doesn't really add much to the gaming experience. Actually seems more like the Xbox One DVR.

Damn all the people listening to IGN, that is like listening to Fox news. here some information on what the xbox has.

System Specifications

• 8 core combined CPU/GPU with 5 billion transistors ( an AMD FX-8350 has 1.6 billion transistors that is more the 3 times as many, and the GTX 680 has 3.5 billion transistors. to note these are high end cpu's and video cards)
• 8GB of RAM
• 500GB Hard Drive
• USB 3.0

Kinect and other features

• Fully Integrated Kinect that comes with system
• kinect voice control that integrates with TV allowing you to control both your Xbox and TV with your voice
• Snap - have multiple apps running on the screen at same time
• Uses New Kinect sensor that is more accurate and senses player balance, weight distribution, and heart rate
• the Xbox controller has also undergone at least 40 resigns with improve control and HD rumble in each trigger

As a side note Kinect voice control is just an added feature and isn't required to use the Xbox, as for backward compatibility that hasnt been released yet you will have to wait for E3 to find out. Anyone who tells you otherwise eats cake while watching fox news.

Screw that, if I'm going to spend money on a new console it's going to be the PS4. I'll probably just end up using that money to upgrade my PC.