Possibly as the only way to fix the gamebreaking bugs also causes other worse gamebreaking bugs to happen and that's what is causing the delay in getting the patch to us.

I do understand the frustrating pains you are suffering. I played games were the game glitched and said to bad you cant finish, will just keep crashing on you. (dragon age) and that game never got patches even after 5 dlcs and a full expansion add-on. We do understand how much frustration you have. But we also know what rushing a patch can do. I know its driving you nuts but what would you do if it can make things worse. Like I said if there is no patch by the dlc time to fix some of these issues than every one has every right to scream foul.

Also it's only been a month, the game came out on the 26th of October. Two months would be December 26th.

I wouldn't be so annoyed about this if I had paid for a beta version, i.e nothing. The game is now down to half it's original price on amazon.co.uk, and at ￡20 is still grossly overpriced in it's current state. Disgusting, especially when you consider I can't return the game for a refund as UK store policy is not to refund once a game has been opened due to piracy.

It chokes me even more being a software tester, I simply cannot understand how this got approved for release.

Its beyond ridiculous we have had to wait this long for a patch to make the game they way it should have been upon release. Had this been any other product such as a vehicle or appliance that was released with this many issues it would have been recalled. At least some of the game review websites have done their part in warning consumers, albeit late, that FNV is riddled with bugs, some of them game breaking.

First, I would like to note that Fallout is one of my favorite game series of all-time, and here is my take on this situation: The game industry is more competitive today than it has ever been, even moreso with the holidays approaching. With the relatively new feature of online connectivity of consoles and the ability to update/patch software, developers can get their products out faster and work on issues as they come up. From a business perspective, had Fallout: New Vegas been released after Black Ops and Fable 3, sales would have been significantly reduced in my opinion. Even if it had waited to be tested more, many bugs/glitches could still have been an issue, requiring a patch. Yeah, it really svcks to have been waiting and anticipating the games release to finally get it and have issues that were game-killers and then wait and wait for a patch. But I seriously doubt Bethesda is going to risk its reputation and possible future revenues of the Fallout series by releasing an unperfect game and just leave it as is. Given the amount of negative feedback it has recieved from consumers on just this forum, I'm sure they would want to release a patch that is going to have a substantial impact on the games performance and mechanics rather than just some quick fixes that may still leave many issues. Also this game is available for 3 systems, and I'm not a programmer, but I'm sure the patches, etc. aren't interchangeable among all 3. Considering the depth and scope of Fallout: New Vegas, I can certainly understand how fixing many of the bugs in the game could be a daunting task, and how thouroughly testing it could take considerable time. Another thing is that these forums are serving the function that they are intended to - offer a place were people can voice their feedback and opinions of the game, sure, it may get monotonous to keep seeing the same complaints, etc., but as I said, that is what these forums are for. And regardless of how disappointed or frustrated we are right now with the game, we are still big enough fans to register to the forum and voice our opinions and wait for the patch release. Its not going to change our overall love of the series or affect our future purchases of Fallout games and content. Look at games like Driv3r and Mercenaries 2 that had great anticipation of their releases, and were seemingly released simply for the sake of being released. They were bug and glitch ridden, granted Driv3r wasn't available for the newest gen systems capable of online patching, but Mercenaries 2 was, and it was pretty much left as is - and to be honest, even with those poor experiences with those games, should another Driver or Mercenaries come out, I would still probably buy them - because they were still good games.

It pisses me off too. Fixing all the bugs can take years, I think. No, I'm sure. After playing the game more than 100 hours, after reading the forums and the buglist threads I'm sure even more. And now they announced a new DLC in four weeks. Damn, guys, you must(!) work extremely(!) hard on new patches, fixing your breaking product, forgetting about any DLCs. Unrespect to developers.

It's funny to me how they announce DLC. Well that just kicks us in the [censored]!ng groin.

I don't know this is my first fallout game and I'm not liking the first impression.

You're correct, the game came out October 19, 2010, and it's just been over one month. I suppose it only feels longer?

I can say that ive probably experienced close to every single one of the bugs this game has (except the one about problems with the strip) and i am certainly not happy about it. Am i begging/demanding a refund? No, because its still a good game all problems aside. So for now im gonna play some assassins creed and wait patiently till they release a functional patch, because whining about it and stating your plans to return the game wont make things any better.

Just to continue the rant...they could have released multiple patches to address priority issues and then filter through playable issues with DLC s and additional patches. I don't think they're going to go bankrupt releasing patches to fix the game. Especially when you think about how long Fallout 3 sold for full price until GOTY edition and that is still not cheap. The figure I found was 4.7 million copies for Fallout 3 as of last month WITH 5 MILLION COPIES OF NEW VEGAS SOLD AT RELEASE , $300,000,000 (as reported by Bethesda) AND THATS NOT COUNTING THE 500,000 copies of the guide they all sold. Factor in merchandise and books...
Now im no expert, but I'm pretty sure that the labor and cost for fixes and microsofts fee patches is going to be a negligible amount in their profits. I'm not trying to fuel the fire, but a little dip in the till wouldn't hurt future sales of this game. I'm sure if they can be more active in incremental patching the game with priority content will pay off in the long run.
I'm also currently unemployed if anyone at Bethesda finds this wisdom valuable.

Locke,

Do you really think I don't understand everyone else's feelings on this matter? I suffered through the bugs and glitches too. I added things to the bug and glitches list as well. Despite all the bugs and such it is abit different than FO3. Theres a armor defense, doc's bag, and a home base so all the buddies can be there instead of going to Primm or going to the Mojave desert. In some sense it is worth the wait because there was improvement from FO3 I'm sure as well that is why it is taking so long to see if the patch fixes all or most of the bugs and glitches. But the thing is to enforce the people working on the patch to get it out now...We do not know if it's going make the game to the point no one is going to play it anymore or make it abit better. When I played Mafia2 i was given a lemon of a game. I finished the game in less than 2 days then i saw online that the 2k crew chopped the game up... But the difference is FNV is a complete game Mafia2 is not...Mafia2 wasn't worth the 60 bucks. Best way to wait for a patch is playing a different game. Or just return the game now and move on. FNV is worth of the 60 bucks despite the bugs and glitches in the game itself. It's a big game and they should be given the time to make sure the patch doesn't cause new problems for everyone that is still playing it.

We can have a say of the negavitve on the game but there are positive things that is a change and to me it is worth waiting for a patch to atleast fix most of the bugs.

Joey

Well i'm sick of the wait, but mainly because i'm sick of the game.
My problem is that i am now on level 30.
I have spent most of my 70+ hours wandering the wastes, killing enemies and doing side-quests, all the while, trying to avoid any game breaking issues.
I have avoided going to the Strip and other places that cause crashes and i'm just plain bored with this game now. I can't level up anymore, can't get any more perks so i assume i'm about as powerful as i can get and i'm still far from being allowed to complete the game.
Thats not to say that i have'nt had problems along the way. I've had the quest bugs that i can't complete and the save game corruption that cost me around 8 hours game time, plus numerous other glitches and companion bugs.

In the meantime, i got hold of Assasins Creed Brotherhood and am enjoying it immensley, excellent graphics, great gameplay and a huge area to explore.
But more importantly, no bugs.

I cant even play anymore due to a corrupt save on my Xbox and I refuse to bother with the damn thing untill I can play that character again. Ive always put up with Bethesda's bugs but keep Obsidians ass out of everything from now on. This next patch better be essentially a miracle and fix the bulk of all bugs or im going to be seriously disappointed with the entire game and the entire studio. I think its taking so long because a chunk of the studio is working on the DLC, and frankly I cant believe those motha [censored]as. Morrowind on my PC with seriously 100+ mods is more stable than New Vegas

yeah this is getting ridiculous, i have already beat the game, so I am more fortunate than many. Still i experience many many glitches and bugs. I froze probably 10-15 times over the course of 55 hrs. I had to bug squash just to get thru the celeb macafrey quest w/o game ending glitch. By the end of my game, I could not use any scoped weapons as all my scopes just popped up a hacking screen instead, rendering the scope useless. The most annoying issue is the freezing. i would have been happy with a december release rather than waiting that long to get a patch. What if we lived in an age where products couldnt just get patched up??!! This is unexcusable, maybe pc players are used to having buggy games, but on a console one should never have to worry about a game as broken as this one. Dont get me wrong, I love New Vegas, cant wait to play through it again, I just really want a patch first, and I feel as if I am being screwed. They are announcing dead money and elder scrolls V "leak" but I cant get a patch for my clearly broken product?? I understand it takes a while to patch games, but if a month after release the game is still unplayable to some, then i hate to say, it doesnt matter how good the game is.

I think these are all problems that should've been noticed and fixed before launch. They're really upsetting their fanbase right now by not addressing it properly.

I have saved president Kimball and now Im stuck! Everyone just stands there as if the president where still taking and I have no quest to complete the story. This is a deal breaker for me. How you can release a game with a story-crucial quest as buggy/glitched as this is irresponsible. Ill go as far as to say unethical. I paid for a product, which was broken before I received it, and I get a bunch of nothing from its developers. Three strikes, your out Obsidian. Im extremely disappointing.

Amen, it's such a relief to play a real game done by people who are professionals. I am selling my game for whatever i can get, just so one less new copy is sold and never again will I buy anything that says obsidian or bethesda, and for as long as I am able I will discourage everyone who can hear me to avoid them entirely.

just release the fix, then i am happy again....

waiting for something to go play again is never fun...

AC Brotherhood here i come

Of course I would love to see the patch come out soon, like sometime this week, but some sort of update on the situation would suffice. Going for weeks without any kind of word makes me restless.

Regardless, I'll wait. In fact, it's good that I'm forced to take a break; I was beginning to burn out on the game.

Just finished the CoD BO campaign. Man, what a polished game. I know NV and BO are two totally different games, but Treyarch managed to release a VERY polished game that IMO had equal to if not more content than NV. People keep going on and on about NV being this immense sandbox. I think NV might even be bloated with useless stuff (instead of actually finishing the game: working schematics, more than the 6 or so guns you can mod, and of course the bugs). But I'm pretty sure BO faced the same development schedule as NV. To be fair BO outsells NV but not by much. Bethesda reports selling 5 million copies of NV with recording earnings of $300,000,000 and a record 500,00 copies of the guide. Where as BO has sold 6,323,000 copies. Additionally, Treyarch had an Immense QA team that had well over two hundred people in various QA departments.
I haven't counted the number of people involved in QA for NV but I have heard it was a small number comparably. Regardless, BO LOOKS amazing, plays perfectly, and is packed with a variety of games (MP, campaign, zombies, arcade, and even zork!) just to appease any CoD haters, one whole MP map in BO called Nuketown is an homage to Fallout.
Now I love Fallout, but how amazing would it be if the same amount of effort was put into it as was done for BO? How great would it be if character animations and cuts scenes were polished? It's truly not a matter of content/size limitations but simply hard work and commitment when creating the game. I know many of you are gointo argue that BO is on rails and NV is open world, but that still doesn't take into account how ugly NV can be compared to other sandbox games.
So my point? NV was not a labor of love but a color by numbers game that had so little to live up to. I think everyone was expecting the same poorly animated, story driven game from FO3 with new content that worked. Few games can truly wow an audience and I feel other companies manage to do it by composing the right team and with love and respect for it's audience. Let's hope we never see another fallout game on this engine or by this team. I'm sorry guys, but you blew it.

I think it says everything about this mess that one nationwide software retailer is flogging this game for ￡19.99.
One month after release and what i would describe as a 'top title',( not in quality but in cost, revenue,hype and expectation).
Somehow i don't expect C.o.D, AC:B or many other top titles being reduced so drastically so soon after release.
Maybe they're having trouble selling them to wary consumers?

At least they could update us they haven't said anything for 11 days...

We're working on finalizing the update and getting it to you guys. If I get a better sense of when that'll be out, I'll update this http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1125221-please-read-from-the-teams-at-obsidian-and-bethesda/with news.

Ah, thanks for the reply. That news puts me at ease.