Just wondering if I'm the only one getting a little impatient right now. They seem to be taking a long time releasing this patch. They say their working on the "final touches" . Yeah OK....

Wow. After five weeks of "They should have delayed the release of the game till they fixed the bugs" and three weeks of "why did they release a patch if it was only cause more issues" we've moved on to "get the damn patch out already, stop trying to make sure its perfect".

In answer to your question: The patch will be out when they are done with it. Not playing won't kill me before then.

Well its not too harsh to assume one would be able to be able to play a game bought a MONTH ago.. And they said 3 weeks ago it would be implemented in the coming weeks, 3 WEEKS ago, its soon been a month and they've officiall lied about the patch implementation. Just pathetic customer service bordering on abuse of customers trust. Gametrailers.com invisible walls gave Fallout: New Vegas their turkey of the year award for these bugs and customer service. VERY deserved and says alot about the scale of their problems. So all you "fanbois" saying this is just happening to a small group of players, open your eyes please.

"Weeks" means "Weeks", it doesn't mean "3 weeks". There are 52 Weeks in a year. Your arbitrary numbering system isn't what they're going on. If it takes 6 weeks, that's still "the coming weeks". I think you're all very very spoiled by how instant you have everything these days, instead of the days when you'd order something and they'd say "please allow 6 - 8 weeks for delivery".

Sure, they say that. The coming weeks can mean your definition but it can also mean his definition. It just isn't clear enough, that is all.

Does anyone feel that this game would have been much better if it wouldn't actually boot. At all. That way a recall would have been mandatory, and we could have possibly had a working game with minor bugs and no gamebreakers.

When it said 6 to 8 weeks to deliver, you had a time table. The "coming weeks" is deliberately vague. Yes, there are 52 weeks in a year Captain Trollsalot, but if it takes over 4, "the coming months" would have been more accurate. You say people are spoiled by the instant access of most things, but some people haven't even gotten to play what they paid for past a nasty bug. Its akin to going to a theater to watch a movie, sitting down to watch it, getting past the credits and the movie projector breaking. Then the theater owner comes out and says, come back in a few weeks and it should be working again and no, you may not have your money back. You want to know why that [censored] doesn't happen? Upfront accountability, something unheard of now in the gaming industry. If the a fore mentioned theater scenario had happened, the theater owner would be paying one way or another. Product pride used to mean 1 unhappy customer was something to look into, nowadays it means bah, so what if 1000 (or whatever number you want to use) customers are unhappy, they will buy our next product anyways.

Its up to us, the consumers, to change things and the only voice we really have is our money.

Again, a realistic view of the situation is mistaken for "trolling" while the circle of whining is considered the correct way to handle this. But anyway, it's your last line that I'll reply to: So actually DO that. I guarantee less than 5% of people who are complaining right now will actually avoid a Bethesda pre-order. They'll justify it by saying "oh I didn't mean ALL Bethesda games, just all Obsidian developed Bethesda games". Then they'll buy another Obsidian game and say "well, they won't make the same mistake twice would they?". That's the part that just annoys me throughout all of this. Is that you all sit here and cry and moan, and you'll do nothing to avoid this. Technically this should be a wakeup call to never pre-order or buy a single video game within a week of its release again. But you won't. I hope I'm wrong, but I know I'm not.

This is the first game I have pre-ordered in a LONG time. I got FO3 as the GOTY edition and the only problems I had were on the Bayou expansion. I may be apart of a very small percentage of people, but I will voice my opinion through my money. As to the troll comment, you have a right to voice your opinion, but the WAY you do makes you a troll. You know damn well that going into a group of pissed off people having problems and saying you have no problem is going to make them even more angry. Whatever help you are trying to give is being lost in your wound picking way of saying it.

if it looks like trolling, it sounds like trolling and it smells like trolling then it probably is trolling,
you really do seem to have a lot of time on your hands

Says the guy who must've spent enough time on the forum to know I've voiced my opinion on several topics and has concluded I write a lot.

I've never said I had "no problem" but fine, everyone's got their blinders on so lets go with that. The thing is, this message board is ridiculous. There's about 2 major glitches (the "DLC glitch" and the "Freezing while entering strip"), and a fairly large number of quest bugs, as well as a few things people are considering bugs. SO, there should be 5 stickied topics (the DLC one, the Freezing entering strip one, the Updates about the patch one, and whatever those other two are that are stickied currently). THEN there should be a number of other topics relating specifically ONLY to other bug reports. All of these other topics are just junk for the Mods and Developers to wade through to actually find bugs to fix, which means a complete waste of time. The only good it serves is for people to get things off their chest, which there should just be one (maybe another stickied) topic for, called "Cry about something you can't change" (or maybe something that'll be less hurtful to sensitive people).

The point I'm trying to make is this: When you're a baby, the louder you cry, the quicker you got your bottle. But when you become an advlt, you're supposed to understand that doesn't work anymore. You do it for babies because they're babies. But in the real world, it doesn't matter how much you cry or [censored] or complain, nothing is going to be done any quicker than the speed it can actually be done at. They're not "holding back" the patch, they're not sitting there laughing at you counting their money, swimming around in it like Scrooge McDuck. In fact, what you're doing now is asking them to do what they did in the first place: quickly dump out software that may or may not be fully tested and may or may not work. So what do you want? For them to take their time to make good on the mistakes they made (the creation and release of a patch is admittance of guilt itself), or do you want them to dump something out for you that could cause another issue? Please keep in mind that time machines don't exist, so the answer of "I wanted them to not release a buggy P.O.S in the first place" is not an answer.

I just wish there was some way bethesda could give me a full refund on their game which i pre-ordered, stood in line at 12 o'clock at night, and invested 40+ hours only to not be able to play it for over a month. I get that alot of people are "crying like babies" but dont you agree that they have a right to be upset about this?!

I'm pretty sure I'd take the "freezing strip" glitch then the DLC one..at least I'd still be able to effing play.

Wasn't there a (possibly minor) update just after the game was released - I seem to remember it updating when I first started to play it? I haven't had any problems with DLC or corrupted saves, only the glitch where you exit a building and somebody from another location appears to be stuck in the wall (cured by reloading the auto save), and the 'companion won't follow me now' bug. Which is a bit annoying.

I think people are being a bit naive saying that Bethesda don't care now they've got your money - obviously they do care, if only because no company wants to loose customers or get a bad reputation. And I'm sure the programmers care. And why would they delay a patch they've already announced?

I imagine there have been some interesting conversations between Bethesda and Obsidian!

listen we all want a patch and want it now, but i prefer them taking there sweet time getting it right for we don't have a nightmare upon release, as the above poster said its not that they don't care, i imagine they take pride in their work, as a mediocre modder I take pride in my mods i create i can imagine its the same for them who have made careers out of this :icecream:

Not quite everyone wants the patch now, personally I'd much rather they took the time to ensure that the patch does not introduce other just as bad or possibly even worse bugs.
I know from having played MMO's that quite often patches/fixes/updates can introduce new bugs due to something they did to fix an existing bug or adding something which also has the effect of breaking something else. I doubt this would by any different for consoles, by that I mean fixing a bug can quite possibly cause another bug or at times four or more.

Fixing the DLC bug is a necessity, but I really don't think they're going to fix one of my biggest gripes with the game... random freezing.

The PC seems to have got it's patches quicker than the consoles, and they haven't fixed the freezing/crashing on PC. PS3 has got it's second patch, and the game still freezes like bastard on PS3.

It's almost totally ruins the game when your playing always worrying, "is the game about to freeze on me?" Such a shame.

Well you might not have a problem with it, sometimes it happens and sometimes it doesn't. But if it does, then that save is gone until they fix it, IF they can fix it.

Don't worry .. the patch will most likely be included in the next DLC... sure they'll make some incremental patch for people who don't want to buy the DLC but the DLC itself will be what really fixes up the game since what caused the bugs in the first place was them removing the "DLC". We'll be paying for the next patch.. get it?

I just made that all up.. but that's what my paranoid, suspicious mind has come up with. If the patch doesn't come out until the DLC my brain will just assume it's been correct in it's assumptions.. So please release the patch before the DLC so I don't have to put up with my brain saying "I told you so."

I obviously voted for "They sure are taking their sweet time."

I've been patiently waiting for the infamous patch to come out. I bought F:NV as soon as it was available for purchase and am currently locked out of the Strip (like everyone else apparently). Since purchase to now, I've played and beaten Fable 3 twice. I understand that there's hundreds of bugs with New Vegas, but why doesn't Obsidian fix the single, major bug that's stopping everyone from playing the game? It's like placing cosmetic surgery in the same urgency category as life-or-death surgery.

I just wanted to add my coin to the hundreds of other similar posts and the hundreds of thousands of unposted similar opinions.

im sorry but I paid $60 for this game to play it. not wait weeks to be able to play it.

P.S. :flamethrower: NCR

I'm really upset with the game breaking glitch's and how its hurt peoples play value. Its uncalled for. That being said, we are stuck where we are at. Demanding a rushed patch will make just as many problems if not more. I feel that if it isn't patched by the DLC then every hater in the forums are justified by their anger. But for now I think we just need to accept it happen and move on until December 21. I like to note, While I have played and finished five full characters and unlock all achievements for the 360 I too have meet annoying issues like the unablity to finish Raul's personal quest, Ed-e eating my gear in his quest, and of course, the freeze/lock-ups/longer loading screens that just happen at random points. While I saw most as minor because it was about 1-3 glitch's per character that's still 5-15 glitch's for a game that's only a month old.

Heres the thing. I played FNV about 5 times completed once. There are worse games that were chopped up and not finished. For example: Mafia 2. 60 bucks game worth a half or a quarter of playing time. The difference in both games Mafia 2 the player gets done with the game in less than a day by story only; no jobs or side missions. FNV has all that. In additions of all that is the bugs and glitches that some games have it and some do not. I got into the strip with no problem? Am I lucky? doubt it as i saw the nightkin try to attack Camp Forehorn and freeze if I don't kill the guy. the way FNV is set up takes days to complete.

To demand a rush on the patch without having the company's do there own testing...Question is how you know if a rush patch is going solve 170+ bugs and glitches? It might make it worse...Then your going be pissed off and complaining that they should taken there time with the patch and such.

Joey

CobraBrady and Mars83,

You both state that you've played through F:NV multiple times and that it's best if everyone relaxes and waits for a patch rather than trying to light a fire underneath the developers. Try to imagine how you would feel if you are unable to leave Lucky 38 because everytime you step outside the game freezes up your Xbox. I've tried as many different things as I can to get outside so I can fast travel away from the Strip, but it isn't happening. That means that even though I had the game pre-ordered ever since it was officially announced and paid $80 for the Collector's Edition, I have to shelf the game and kindly play something else for one month while the developers are taking their time to send out one giant sized patch.

As I can understand your situations in that playing through the game 5 times and/or getting all achievements would very well satiate your desires to play a new Fallout game, try to understand other, less fortunate gamers' positions in not being able to simply play the game.

Patience can only last for so long. I've quietly waited a month and am only recently verbal on these forums because my patience is wearing thin. I absolutely love Fallout, and from what I've been able to experience, I love Fallout New Vegas just as well. However, I've never felt more foolish for purchasing a new game as I am feeling with Fallout New Vegas.

Why don't they just fix the gamebreaking bugs now and the minor bugs later so we can at least play.