I'd like to chime in here and say that neither myself nor anyone on my friend list will be purchasing a single piece of DLC for New Vegas if this forthcoming patch isn't satisfactory.

Okay, that is just ridiculous on so many levels it's almost funny. I get why you're angry, and I'm disgusted that they released the game in the state they did, but complaining that the patch isn't here yet when they're working on it is just pointless. To say I want a perfect game NOW is just ridiculous when there are so many things wrong with it. Have you looked at the buglist on this forum? Do you expect them to wave a magic wand and magic them away?

If this game isn't patched in a month, I'm done with Bethesda. Dragon Age Origins wasn't properly fixed, and I'm not buying another Bioware game, and if Bethesda don't fix the big bugs in this, I'll add them to the list. But before that I want to see what the patch fixes.

they should have released a hotfix immediately to fix the saving problems.
not do what they are so obviously doing and bundling every single little thing they can into one single patch so it costs them less to deploy on xbox live and psn.

anything else in a rpg is secondary to the fundamental ability to save and load your previous hours of gameplay.

To be honest, i really love fallout since fallout3.
I'm really addicted to it, and i dunno how to solve the problem with saved game files.
To me it's a real huge problem, i bouught the game at dayone, i waited to play beacuse of the bugs you guys reported to us ( i live in europe).
I started to play when the patch was released, but to my surprise last night the game crashed, and i have not a working save file to load my game.
After 75 hours of game, i'm really sad. I know they are working on a new patch, but i cannot say that i'm happy with the time they get to do this.
I'd rather preferred to buy my new vegas a month later , i mean in november, rather than having all those problems.
Hope you get what i mean....

Thank you :disguise: I try

History has a habit of repeating itself. Atari - one of the most successful gaming companies in the 80's - put two highly anticipated games out and butchered them and then essentially went out of business. I'm not saying I want Bethesda to go out of business, I'm saying they need to get their crap together or possibly suffer the same consequences. We WANT Bethesda to be successful and release good games. It's entirely up to them.

Your response is just so ridiculous on so many levels it's WAY beyond funny.

Of course the people experiencing the multitude of game-ending bugs want a perfect game NOW. That's what we paid for. I bought the collector's edition as FO3 is my favorite game of all-time and I had such high hopes for NV. I had no idea I was paying $90.00 to be a Bethesda Alpha-tester.... and believe me I HAVE alpha-tested games that were far more stable and playable than FO:NV.

And what do you keep going on about DA:O - I had what turned out to be one glitch where it wouldn't save properly, so I called EA Customer Support, got an idiot who gave me REALLY BAD, information. I then asked to talk to a supervisor. She gave me the correct fix (reset my clock, the power had gone out the day before) then she comped me ME2 Collector's AND a $20.00 GC towards another game for my problems and aggravation. Now THAT's some awesome customer service! And I never had another problem with DA:O.

I would be THRILLED if I got such a fabulous return and had such a problem-free game like DA:O with FO:NV and gamesas ..... But alas Beth is giving us absolutely NOTHING except the run-around a month and half later on a game that is so riddled with bugs it's almost comical. BTW: I know several people playing on different platforms ALL experiencing different game-wrecking bugs, so YEAH the problem is pretty wide-spread.

So YES we would all like a PEFECT GAME NOW and at least a refund of the amount this bug-fest has dropped in price since we bought it, since for many people it's it's been sitting around collecting dust.*

Disclaimer: Mine was not on a shelf, I did managed to struggle through 2 play-throughs but I feel I should get a special Xbox achievement for finishing my 2nd one as I managed to finish it while encountering EVERY stinking game-wrecking bug.

And the weekend has come again.

Another week without the patch.




You svck Obsidian, you really really svck.


;(

Turns out the coming weeks is a HIGHLY fluid concept

Do people realise fixing software bugs isnt a case of just adding a fix and thats it? Games like Fallout are open world and have infinite amount of possibilities. If you fix one thing, then the whole game needs to be tested again, so make sure it doesnt have a knock on effect. For linear games this can be easy to test, but not with non-linear games like Fallout. Every fix needs to be tested against the whole game again, mulitple times to try and find every possible outcome

I want Fallout but im waiting for the patch. I know people are frustrated but i would rather wait and make this patch a 1 fix everything patch, than it be rushed and break something else

do you realise that theyve already fixed the saving bugs? theyve said so in previous messages ages ago.

therefore it should have been released instantly it was solved, because that is far more important in a roleplaying game that people invest dozens of hours in, than making sure a companion follows you or making sure a rock isnt floating at grid reference 194x268

You appear to be under the impression that these people actually TEST their games.
If that were the case we would'nt be suffering from this complete balls-up.
I think you'll find that its us, the paying customer, who test their games.

Fixed it yes, but tested it? The fix could well have been easy, but they still have to do all the testing of the fix to make sure it doesnt break anything else

Yeah, that is what amazes me. Any other product this faulty would have had a recall, but no, "we gots your money and you can just damn well wait" seems to be the thinking here by the company.

Incredible that such a obviously and blatantly broken piece of software was release. Incredible the complete lack of action, apology or update by the developers. Incredible they haven't been forced to recall it and reissue V2.0 discs if and when it is fixed. What about those who don't have their 360's online? What if I want to replay it in a few years but xbox live is off for the 360 (we are due a new machine i would imagine by then) and i can no longer download the patch? The availability of post release patching now has obviously made companies lazy and they seem to have the attitude of "shove any ol crap out the door, we'll fix it with patches". Appalling. No game should require anything but maybe minor balancing or update patches if ever. That is what QA/Testing is for.

Absolutely unbelievable. As I've said before, mine went back for a full refund. Wandered past the same shop a few days ago. The wall of FO:NV is now nowhere to be seen. They aint selling it.

Man the damage on this one is going to hurt these companies for a long time. It will take some MAJOR efforts on the company's part to salvage this mess.

They have? I'll go search for those threads...but if someone could link it up, that would be cool.

I just wanted to drop in to let you folks know that we give formal warnings and suspension times for calling one another names or indicating something they say is ridiculous and flaming another in any way. Here is our rule on flaming for your convenience:
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/724862-forum-rules-and-general-information/


I also wanted you all to know that our Community manager posted this today:

They didn't have the time to make the game. They had a patch already taht fixed 25-50% of the bugs but caused some save corruptions. Bare with them. If I had to wait till right now to get the game with no bugs I would have preffered it. As it is, I'm happy that they're taking their time to release it, or else there would be hundreds of people complaining about how they had to patch and it didn't work. And then there'd be anothwer patch. And another. Take your time. Make it worth the space it takes up on our harddrives.

Yes I am getting too tired of waiting, soo tired I have contacted my lawyer and he says we have a case at this time for the disregard this company has implemented on us.

I will be posting more as I find out the details on what action can be taken.

Wow...hopefully you won't get this otherwise helpful thread locked up.

I'd blame Microsoft instead of Obsidian. It's to my understanding that the patch certification process can take some time.

HAHAHAHAHA, OH MAN.

Oh yeah, let's blame Microsoft, they're always such a convenient scapegoat. That's just freaking hilarious.

i guess we can blame them both since the last patch made things worse.

"We’ve come up with solutions for the Xbox 360 save issue folks are reporting, along with a number of other issues being reported. We’re currently running final testing and certification on a comprehensive patch for all three platforms (PC, Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3), so we’ll have something available in the coming weeks. When we have more details, we’ll let you know."



That was November 5th... so today marks a month of "final testing". We've also been waiting a half a month of "final touches". Is the update ever coming out??