Sometimes this game tugs on my heart strings. I wouldn't kill Paarthurnax either.

One small correction, it's only disloyal to the player if the players wants it to be. Obviously, not every player feels this friction and gap with their agenda. So the loyalty idea doesn't even play out the same way.

But you are not the first nor the last. They said Dragonborn, they didn't say you. How pathetic are views of some people about how a loyalty from a faction should be given by birthright and not by hardwork.

Whether we choose to go along with it or not does not change Delphine's pre-emptively accusatory dialogue. "Make your choice Dragonborn. You're either with us or against us."

Did you not read the part where I stated what we had already done for them, before they decide to thrust their ultimatum on us?

Also, if the book of the dragonborn in-game is to be believed, we are the last. "The World-Eater wakes, and the Wheel turns upon the Last Dragonborn."

Some have suggested Delphine is cross between a Bosmer and a Falmer. Apparently she's part Dubya, too.

Oh, wait. That was Karliah they were talking about. Well, whatever. Delphine is a piece of work.

Yeah, I see her as having values besides blank loyalty. She's asking me if I want to be some lame pacifist cutesy dragon rider, or a dragon eater. I prefer the latter. I wouldn't have bought this game otherwise. I wouldn't follow me either, if I chose the first.

You get an option that let's u say, "Don't worry i won't kill him" ?!! YAY! i did not see that option yet and i wanted to say that from the start!! Thanx u just made my day! I would never kill Paarth' for anybody! He is like my Dragon-Daddy or something! Love Him!

That's your point of view. You see, I don't care about ages old vendettas or any of that nonsense. They are asking me, to dispose of a source of difficult to acquire information that I may need later. I don't care who it is, if its Paarthurnax, or the Blades, if either one inconveiences me I'd put them down, but only by my terms.

But you stupidly go and stop him, while he chews up the souls of those mortals who don't really deserve to be in Sovngarde. All bloodline of Saint Alessia is a dragonborn as Akatosh has made this pact with mortals after feeling guilty about his creations of dragons.

actually akatosh is the first dragon
alduin and Paarthurax are his sons
alduin is the elder brother
from the wiki


http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Alduin, or the World-Eater as he is known to the residents of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Skyrim, is an immensely powerful http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dragons. He is depicted as a malevolent force who destroys the world periodically, and the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Nord believe that his reappearance heralds the end of time. He is the First-Born of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Akatosh, elder brother of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Paarthurnax, and self-proclaimed aspect of Akatosh



Akatosh (Auri-El to the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Aldmer^{http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Akatosh#cite_note-TM-0}) is the chief deity of the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Gods_N#Nine_Divines (the prescribed religious cults of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Cyrodiil and its provinces), and one of two deities found in every http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Tamriel_(continent) religion (the other is http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Gods_L#Lorkhan), save only the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dunmer Tribunal of self-made gods. His avatar is a dragon, and he is often called the Dragon God of Time.^{http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Akatosh#cite_note-TAOK-1} He is generally considered to be the first of the Gods to form in the Beginning Place; after his establishment, other spirits found the process of being easier and the various pantheons of the world emerged.^{http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Akatosh#cite_note-PGE1I-2http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Akatosh#cite_note-BAM-3http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Akatosh#cite_note-TM-0} The http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Aedra^{http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Akatosh#cite_note-FMGAE-4http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Akatosh#cite_note-TM-0} is the ultimate God of the Cyrodiilic Empire, where he embodies the qualities of endurance, invincibility, and everlasting legitimacy while promoting the virtues of duty, service, and obedience.^{http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Akatosh#cite_note-VOF-5http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Akatosh#cite_note-TCND-6http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Akatosh#cite_note-TM-0} Akatosh is the father of all http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dragons.^{http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Akatosh#cite_note-7} He is the patron of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Akatosh_Chantry, the religious order devoted to the worship and glorification of him, who refer to him as the "Great Dragon". He is thought to have played a benevolent role in the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Warp_in_the_West_(event).^{http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Akatosh#cite_note-TWITW-8}



http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:OB-Window-Akatosh.jpgAkatosh
Most traces of Akatosh disappeared from ancient http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Chimer legends during their so-called 'exodus', primarily due to that god's association and esteem with the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Altmer. However, several aspects of Akatosh which seem important to the mortal races, namely immortality, historicity, and genealogy, have conveniently resurfaced in http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Almalexia_(god), the most popular of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Morrowind's divine http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Tribunal_Temple; as a mother-figure, she also embodies the idea of being a progenitor (albeit a female rather than male one). So one could say that, at least, the qualities of Akatosh are not entirely neglected among the Dunmer, even if his name is.^{[http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Template:Fact]}
Akatosh was involved in the forging of the Covenant with the new Empire of humanity, and his blood was mystically joined with Alessia and her heirs.^{http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Akatosh#cite_note-TAOK-1http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Akatosh#cite_note-TOSA-9} The http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Amulet_of_Kings was the primary token of this patronage, and it allowed the new Empire of Cyrodiil to benefit from the stabilizing influence of White Gold Tower, maintaining the barrier between http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Mundus and the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Planes_of_Oblivion.^{http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Akatosh#cite_note-TAOK-1} When that barrier was threatened during the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Oblivion_Crisis, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Martin_Septim was able to summon Akatosh's spirit and transform himself into the avatar of Akatosh, which appeared in the shape of a giant dragon made of fire.^{http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Akatosh#cite_note-Oblivion-10} This avatar dragon defeated http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Mehrunes_Dagon, reestablishing the mystical barrier between Tamriel and the Daedric Realms.^{http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Akatosh#cite_note-Oblivion-10http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Akatosh#cite_note-TAOK-1} The avatar transformed into a statue, now located inside the ruined http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Temple_of_the_One.^{http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Akatosh#cite_note-Oblivion-10}
Akatosh is accredited with creating http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Auriel%27s_Shield and http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Auriel%27s_Bow.

Akatosh takes the form of a dragon, but I wasn't under the impression that he's a dragon himself. Akatosh is said to have created dragons in his image. But they are an ancient akavir race. He is still some formless aedra, and isn't limited to that.

That's his avatar. You can call him the dragon god, but you can't actually call him a dragon.

If Paarthurnax is indeed a respectable dragon with honor then he himself knows that the time will come that he must pay for his evil doings and who better to do it then a friend, A dragonborn there is nothing but an honorable death to be had and i believe that justifies it. after you use him for all you can first of course.

@ The original post, if you are playing on PC there will be a better faction than the blades for you once I finish the School of The Dragon, and considering your companion is going to be a shapeshifting Dragon, you can assume parthurnaax is safe from their wrath.

When I first arrived at the throat of the world, I thought I was looking for a cranky greybeard, I did not know I was looking for a dragon so I immediately attacked Paar-thurn-ax on sight and thought I killed him, but when he turned out to be immortal I reconsidered and opened a dialouge. He didn't seem to mind that I attacked him.

How do Dark Brotherhood types deal with this? If a contract goes out on a dragon, it seems like it should be fulfilled.

Paarthurnax is the ultimate survivor of addiction, he should hold AA meetings for the surviving dragons. However, this didn't stop me from murdering him in cold blood -- he's a dragon, and if I where to kill some one I doubt the loved ones would forgive me after years of atonement, regardless of how much I change as a person, so he get's no special treatment.

Plus my game was bugged, the Grey beards wouldn't tell me the locations of any word walls so I went the blades route, that way I have the locations of many dragons, who usually protect word walls so I get two for the price of one, then theres also the fact that I have a stalker that sends me letters by means of a courier doing the exact thing the Grey Beards neglected to do, locate word walls. I might consider letting him live on my next character.

Delphine gave me the ultimatum and that's the last time I saw her. I'm not going to kill Paarth, and those two Blades no longer exist to me. They can rot alone in their little temple.

Yeah that is your own short-sighted ignorant belief which you can keep thank you very much.

Just as I called upon Odahviing to turn the tide in favor of the Stormcloaks during the war. In an RP dream, I'll bend the will of the other dragons to reduce the Thalmor to ashes.

I don't know if you guys called Odahviing during a civil war battle. Its pretty awesome. Nothing like an allied dragon strafing the paraqets of a fort.

Kinda like the snake eating its own tail or two sides of the same coin if you will.

I haven't had a chance to do the MQ yet because my game bugged but I've seen these threads and spoiled myself reading the different opinions and I've decided that when I get there, I'm likely not going to do it either unless I learn something that makes me change my mind and I just don't know it yet but it feels wrong to want to kill him. I feel bad about the Blades not liking it but if they want to blow off the dragonborn, fine by me. They can go find another dragonborn. I don't need to do every quest. Do what's in your heart.

She doesn't even have loyalty. She holds an ancient vendetta and it's going to end up destroying (or not) the dragon who helped save the world. Plus, for a person who is meant to serve and protect the Dovahkiin, she has one hell of an easy time ordering her around. Hell, if she's any indication the Blades must have been the real rulers of the human Empires.

This is truth, right here - very well stated

Personally I would prefer an option to Kill the Blades and save the good dragons from the dragon slayers.

Not like the Blades are of any use to anyone anymore. The Emperor doesn't even use them.

They're of use to me. More than some meditation. Not only is that unappealing in real life, it's even more laughable for a game. Meditation. Great.