Now the Blades want me to kill Paarthurax or however you spell it(Sorry I forgot) Anyways I don't want to... He helped me and he is kinda of a wise and smart person for a dragon. I wish you were given to join Paarthurax and do missions for him, or pick the option not to kill him and have less respect from Blades. I just don't understand why kill him? Its such a twist from Bethesda. And I keep getting MISC. quests to talk to esbern and he keeps saying " Is it done yet?" Offcorse i say no. And I want to do more quests and reqruit people and stuff. Do you really think I should kill Paarthurax?

Welcome to TESV - the "shades of grey" game (well, they all were.... but this one's even more so....)

I just walked away from Esbern. I refused to kill Parthunax (sp). I feel that he had redeemed himself and so therefore I was unwilling to kill him. After 2 completions of the main quest, I still can't kill him. Call me a sap for his spiel. I just can't kill him.

and hello Serethil!

Hey philly! Yeah, I didn't kill him either - on the only toon I've done the MQ on. And if I WAS going to do the MQ again, I wouldn't kill him then either.

I do dark brotherhood quests, I kill people that I never met, or heard of. I am not soft hearted, but Paarthurax is my Dragon brother(sort of I guess lol) I kill Blood Dragons and other ones because they attack me, If Paarthurax attacked then maybe I wouldn't mind shoving my sword down his throat....

I killed paarthunax on my first char since i loved the blades......until later on i regretted and quitted that char. even before he finishes the MQ. So now, every new char = paarthumax will not die

My character is a hero.. He saved the [bleep]ing world Bethesda!! I'm not going to kill a dragon that has done nothing but help me. Ohdaviin on the other hand, I tried to kill! He [bleep]ing attacked me!

I understand that he has killed lots of people hundreds of years ago, but he was forced under the control of Talos, the god of everything. I would in fact kill Delphine or Esbern if they tried to attack my dragon buddy.

Why should you? Tell the Blades to sod off.

LOL!!! You don't know much about the Elder scrolls series, do you? Did you even play the game? :S Talos, god of everything, forced Parthurnaax to kill everything?! XD First, Talos was a human, second, he wasn't alive yet. Third, ALDUIN, ALDUIN, ALDUIN! How do you not know that yet? He's the first dragon you see? And then in Whiterun, the first main town you encounter has a priest who tells you the story of Talos. And it's kinda hard to miss him, as he's yelling out loud TALOS, TALOS, GOD OF MANNNNNNNN FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF. In the center of town...

Not sure that matters... or is even relevant to the OP.

Anyway, you don't want to do it: don't. I'm still relatively new to this game, but one thing I have learnt is that it's VERY forgiving for pretty much any decision made.

You guys... wow. Its a moral dilemma for a reason. But keep in mind that P-Nax killed many, many people. AND, he was an utter and total nuisance during the 1st battle with Alduin, getting in the way of Dragonrend, etc. Getting companions that dont die for any reason (Blades), Esbern's potion (when it works dang it), and other decent buffs justify it. Yeah the P-Nax buffs are great, but again, I finished all of the word walls first, and then sided with the Blades.

I do feel for you guys that like him, but again, he leaves anyways after the main quest is over. Moreover, the Graybeards are complete hypocrites. I do believe the Dovas started the fight in the first place, and the dorks know you are killing scores of them (as is everyone in this game). Whatever, the game does have some problematic story conflicts, and it just takes an open mind and suspending disbelief to deal with some issues that do pop up regarding inconsistencies.

And you shall find out that you are wrong. Those moral dilemmas are in there for a reason.

In some ways, it IS a moral dilemma. In others, in the execution of a refusal to kill him, it's just another broken quest.

I didn't tell Arngeir that the Blades want me to kill Paarthurnax but suddenly the option went off and he got angry so I just replied: Don't worry I won't kill him!
So there is an option to kill or not kill him. I was glad and I am not returning to Esbern. I don't care about the Blades. I'm not their puppy who must do this or do that. The Blades served the Emperor in Oblivion but not the Empire. So now with this Civil War they are useless. Why should I kill a dragon who helped to save Skyrim from Alduin threat?? Bethesda is testing us... LOL

Just press the "B" button or whatever you use to end abruptly a conversation before you get the quest. This way it won't remain in your journal. The two remaining Blades end up in a big, dark, empty temple stuck on a mountain. Let them bask in the glory of the past because they have no future. There's really no reason to go there anymore or to talk to them. I think they were an unnecessary addition to the main quest to make it artificially longer.

Because he murdered thousands prior to that. I'd kill your Grandpa if he was a Nazi (but then went on later to earn a Nobel Prize), so..

How so? Nothing I've read here, or seen in game would indicate that there's a particular morality you must play with to complete the game. You play the game in whatever way you see fit - that is the overriding thematic that I've taken thus far. Both from within game and within forums.

Sure, decisions and 'paths taken' have consequences, but the game doesn't cease merely because of someone choosing not to kill a dragon.

Really? You'd kill a very old man for having a political view... to be sure: one that had a particularly abhorrent stance on racial issues - but not all Nazis were evil personified. Having been a member of the Nationalsozialismus doesn't necessarily equate to being a war criminal... just that you have/had a belief system that supported a government that did commit such evil acts.

Please don't misunderstand, I am in no way justifying what was done in WWII, nor do I have any beliefs aligned with Nazism. I just think that you're looking at things too "absolute".

You do not have to kill Paarthurnax, you can still complete the main quest if you don't.

Great. I'll put you in touch with Günter Grass.

Use the setstage command in your Elder Scroll ( Console)

I refuse to kill Paarthurnax, he has such a wonderful voice when he speaks in Dragon tongue.

The Blades should take their rightful place in the pages of History, as they have nothing to contribute to the future of this world.

I've been dwelling on this. Esbern and Delphine talk big but frankly are short of know-how. They accuse Paarth of innumerable unspeakable nameless crimes, but can't describe a single one. Arngier confirms Paarth's role in the past, but that was the fate of all dragons. He also points out that it was Paarth that gave man the gift of the thu'um. You know, that thing that Esbern the lazy researcher is so interested in, but for his own ends. Paarth himself admits the forces that drive the dova to commit these deeds is innate, but he has mastered them through meditation.

The whole thing about redemption, however, is something only mortals can grasp. We have only one life to live, and will be remembered or judged by it. Atoning for past mistakes is a major hike on the path to enlightenment. What are we to immortals? Nothing. I revisited Paarth and Arngier, and was directed to a word wall, and found another. I've got Esbern's potion, though I don't know what it does. I see cooperation and support from the Greybeards and the opposite, even exploitation, by the Blades. Delphine and Esbern are xenophobes, and can rot for now. Even Arngier said, when I told him I was still considering, that doing nothing is sometimes the wisest course.

Now let's finish our ale and kill some Thalmor. They at least are evil, and in the present time!

I wonder if someone just made up the reason "I'm the dovahkiin, no one orders me around lol" once, and now people just repeat it.

Almost everyone in the game, in various factions, treats you like crap until go through some turning point/rite of passage. You can sing all of the praises in the world to Mercer Frey, but he's a jerk too at first. Skjor and Vilkas aren't nice. Aela is a bit nicer. Various Jarls are the same way. It's just how the writers have done with almost all characters. It's not just the Blades. People who single out Delphine's attitude apparently haven't played the rest of the game.

If you don't want to choose that side, don't.. but don't try to rationalize it as "you being the dragonborn, and people must obey you instead, and kiss your ass". Might as well quit the game then, because hardly any NPCs do that.

No. That is specific to the Blades. Delphine herself says very early on that the Blades exist to serve the Dragonborn, and that they are sworn to guard them, that it is their very purpose that they have been searching for, for the last 200 years.

As the Dragonborn, we not only stop Alduin, but we reunited the last two Blades, who would have likely perished or faded into obscurity without us, and re-opened their temple using our own blood.

If they are willing to turn on the player after all that, they clearly were never loyal to us to begin with.