It makes the shouts more powerful.

Shouts I don't need to be more powerful. Some I don't care for at all (fire breath). But my chartacter isn't going to be a meditating type anyways. He's a meathead. A thief, technically. But still a meathead.

I've had to kill a few people I didn't want to. Such is life in Skyrim. He's old, I figured I was doing him a favor, lol.

If Paarthurnax asked me to kill Esbern and Delphine, I'd quickly complete the quest for him... I found the two highly arrogant after I helped them out.

Oh god, I wish we had that option, SOOOOO much!

Well, you don't. This game lets the dragonslayer concept remain, whether you support it or not. Thinking the Blades would ever be killed off from TES is bordering on fan fiction.

You can kill off the dark brotherhood in most of the TES games.

Nothing we do in this game has consequences especially when it comes to the canon of the games that follow.

They can easily kill off the Blades, then bring them back whenever they want. Writers do it all the time.

I support the dragonslayer concept, I also support the slaying the dragonslayer concept!

The way they have written in killing Paarthurnax is poorly implemented and seems tacked on, it really makes most people hate Delphine and Esbern for a lousy reason.

Basically this.


I don't hate Delphine and Esbern because of the Paarthurnax thing though, I hate them because of how they are: you are the Dragonborn, you have the blood of a Divine (Akatosh) within you. The Blades are sworn to protect and serve you. But Delphine and Esbern command you around like an errand girl? Not even in Oblivion (when The Blades had LEGITIMATE authority to command you around) did they give such rude attitudes off. Hell, they don't even do anything for me, they treat ME like I'm subservient to THEM.

This is where Morrowind shined: there were NO essential characters, so if they had that in Skyrim, I could at least strike the insolent fools down.

The Blades are a shadow of what they once were. Once the great spies of the Empire, then an order of pompous soldiers and monks, and now a scattered group of fugitives chasing vendettas that we were never told about before and only they care about.

I don't like how now, everyone important in TES history has somehow been retconned into some kind of dragon hunter.


Delphine and Esbern got in the way and were only able to tell me what I already knew. So no, I'm not killing the only competent guy in the province.

I would like to have the option to lie to Delphene about killing him. I mean, how would she know one way or the other anyway? Not like she can get up the path through that fog.

Anyway, the only time I had intended to kill him, he simply refused to die. Health was at 0 (no red bar) and would not die. Mehrunes Razor couldn't even kill him. He didn't even attack me at all, just sat there on the word wall. I even climbed onto his back and tried. Good sneak, one-handed, and archery practice tho.

I had the same thing happen, but I was in the middle of the MQ too so that's probably why he wouldn't die. I saved beforehand though because I didn't want to kill him... he just seems so wise and kind.

My only complaint in this regard was that in my first playthough (I play my first playthough in TES making choices more or less as I really would if I could be that character), I just couldn't betray Paarthurnax. Instead I felt betrayed and used by Delphine and Esbern. But I could not kill either of them, as I feel they deserve. Their duplicity and mainpulative selfishness should be rewarded with their lifeblood

I don't know why, but animal deaths often seem sadder than human deaths.

It's the 'Old Yeller Effect,' you might say.

Parth has helped the Blades have not. easy choice.

He does not leave after the main quest. I show him off to friends all the time. Who does not like to look and talk to a dragon

That's as extreme as they are, though. I just put their obsession down to being hunted and the last of their kind. That tends to make zealots out of people.

The irony is that Delphine lectures you about the Greybeards' "cult" because she says they're so committed to their ideology that they won't even help you defeat Alduin. Then she turns around and does the same thing.

So you kill him for a gameplay glitch. That's not a moral dilemma. Whatever he did in the long past, he more than redeemed himself over the decades and in aiding you to defeat Alduin.

There is no dilemma for me here. If Delphine and Esbern want to go pout, they can try to recruit another Dragonborn.

I tried to kill him but it wouldn't let me because apparently I still have a quest for him or something. Then he flew away before I could kill him. He barely has any health though he is ridiculously easy to kill.

I don't see any solid reason to spare paarth since you can get the locations of all the words of power from "a letter from a friend" but still I didn't kill him, no matter how many people he killed the dragons are a lot less, besides if the nords wanted revenge why didn't the three nord heros killed him after he taught them the thu'um.

who knows maybe paarth will open a school to teach the thu'um so we can defeat the thalmor

Why can't I kill Delphine or Esbern? I don't care if they are essential, because they are not for me. For all I care they can join there ancestors in their graves.

Because you can't. Because at the end of the day, it's not our game or story? The writers must have something in mind, especially considering that they hired two well known actors for those parts. I wouldn't be surprised if they already recorded a lot of extra dialogue for them, to be used later.

I never wanted to kill Paarthurnax. I wanted to ride him. I wanted to sling a saddle on him and soar all over Skyrim. Now that would be a great taxi service.

Doesn't Arngeir comment that one of the reasons he dislikes the Blades are because while they claim to serve the Dragonborn, in reality they try to control the Dragonborn?

Anyways, they really are an irritating pair. When Delphine said that unless I killed Paarthanax, the Blades weren't going to help me again, I'd love an option to slap Delphine and tell her: "You are sworn to serve the Dragonborn, Delphine. You and all the Blades. You'd still be hiding in your backwater inn from the Thalmor if I hadn't jumped through all the hoops you put me through. You wouldn't have this secluded temple, hidden from the rest of the world and the Thalmor to rebuild the Blades. The Blades would still be limited to you and Esbern if I hadn't brought willing recruits to you. If not for me, when you and Esbern died, the Blades would become nothing more than a footnote in history, forgotten to all but scholars; perhaps a deserved fate, given how badly you all failed to protect the Empire. So do not think to order me around. I am the Dragonborn, and you are sworn to serve me. I am not your lapdog, despite what you may have convinced yourself".

I actually took my weapon out and smashed Delphines face in and sent her sprawling onto the floor once she delievered that ultimatum to me. I then reloaded an earlier save.

I can't seem to be capable of killing him at all after the MQ is done. I hit him with a million marked for deaths so I can one-shot him and he just goes to zero life and then it refills.

I bet you 10 sweetrolls some mod will be made to have the option to kill him or not to kill him ... it, wichever.