I can't be the only Thalmor fan, can I?

Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:17 am

GO THALMOR, EXTERMINATE NON MER!
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:44 am

We are the Thalmor.

You will be exterminated.

Resistance is futile.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:00 pm

The Alderi Dominion and Thalmor:

1. Wants to take over the world. (Queue Inky and the Brain music here)
2. Kill the Khajiit race off for being a sub-elven race (there are some in game books that hint Khajiit were a magical experiment on elves and animals at some point)
3. Kill the Orc race off for being a sub-elven race
3. Kill the Dunmer race (Dark Elves) simply for just having being cursed by Azura.
4. Enslave the Human and Breton races for menial labor and soldiers.
5. According to one book i found in Skyrim, possibly even attempt to make thier own god (or raise themselves to divinity) by doing exactly the same things the Dwemer tried. (And likely will have the same fate because of that)

Considering thier desires to want to commit at least three acts of genocide, there is not much really to admire about them.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:08 pm

5. According to one book i found in Skyrim, possibly even attempt to make thier own god (or raise themselves to divinity) by doing exactly the same things the Dwemer tried. (And likely will have the same fate because of that)

It's more of a regain their immortality deal.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:18 am

The Alderi Dominion and Thalmor:

1. Wants to take over the world. (Queue Inky and the Brain music here)
2. Kill the Khajiit race off for being a sub-elven race (there are some in game books that hint Khajiit were a magical experiment on elves and animals at some point)
3. Kill the Orc race off for being a sub-elven race
3. Kill the Dunmer race (Dark Elves) simply for just having being cursed by Azura.
4. Enslave the Human and Breton races for menial labor and soldiers.
5. According to one book i found in Skyrim, possibly even attempt to make thier own god (or raise themselves to divinity) by doing exactly the same things the Dwemer tried. (And likely will have the same fate because of that)

Considering thier desires to want to commit at least three acts of genocide, there is not much really to admire about them.

Well, the Tribunal was successful where the Dwemer failed. All the Thalmor would have to do is do what they did, or try to since it's no longer possible. Plus, I despise the Khajiit and I wouldn't care if they were wiped out. I kill them everywhere I see them anyway, if they're not essential.

It would even be an opportunity to add some of the other non-featured races into the games.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:14 pm

Yeah you're pretty much alone.

You have to remember, the Thalmor are designed to be as unlikeable as humanly (n.p.i) possible.

Racial Supremeacy? Check.

Strong references to the 3rd Reich? Check. (only thing missing really is hitler-figure. But I have a feeling that come the DLCs we'll have that soon enough)

Ghestappo- like robes? Check.

Snobby attitudes towards the player regardless of actions or race? Check.

Unjoinable? Check.

Tortures people with no due process? Check.

Trying to destroy the world by offing every (or at least enough) talos worshipers? Check.

Trying to stop the player at just about every turn for no decernable reason? Check.


Unlike the stormcloaks and the legion, you aren't SUPPOSED to see any gray-area in them. It's not supposed to be any "They do this bad, but they do good by doing that" You aren't supposed to see any "light at the end of the tunnel". You're supposed to hate them.

That sums it up
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:33 pm

Death to the Thalmor.
They are the biggest holes in Skyrim,
They eat all my food and drink all my kool aid, they give altmer a bad name.
Rise above this false faction, if they are successful the world will end.
They might as well be called the enclave of skyrim.

Sorry I RP a thalmor hater, everyones entitled to their opinion. :)
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:13 am

I don't hate the Thalmor even though the game really wants me to. I'm pretty indifferent to them. I leave them alone and they leave me alone. I also play an Altmer so that could be why they don't annoy me as much as they might someone who plays a Nord.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:10 pm

Sure thing. I want to roleplay each character concept, and the Thalmor are definately on my list of factions I want to join. However, that seems impossible without the CK, as far as I know, but it will be possible...
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:22 am

Hrm. When it comes to the Thalmor. I am actually quite torn.
My Warrior (Ulfgar Iron-Brand) loathes the Thalmor, and considering he is a Stormcloak, all the more reason to despise them I suppose. Any Thalmor he sees escorting a prisoner to an undisclosed location is immediately put to his axe!
My Rogue (Ra'vhash) is indifferent. Busying himself with fetching some coin, and just generally trying to find his next biggest adventure. Although, I've a feeling he's starting to heavily lean against them, what with learning more about the situation in Skyrim from the townsfolk.
My Mage (Avel Veyliir) who I haven't played yet is indeed an Altmer, and I'd love to have him as a sort of pro-Thalmor type, or maybe just a sympathizer. It'd make for an interesting chain of quests I'm sure!
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:27 am

I hate the Thalmor with a passion and I kill them as soon as I see them.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:10 pm

Uh... they're kinda dikes.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:45 am

Meh..I don't like them. Arrogant; first encounter with them was when I found out about the death warrant. Every time I run into them ever since I kill every one of them.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:16 am

Thalmor = Elven Nazis

All Thalmor must die.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:39 pm

My Imperial battlemage Aren the Sundered doesn't like them, and you think they'd be smart enough not to face a Mage who's is lugging two storm thralls and merc around but no they didn't. They've made an enemy out of the strongest Mage since Zurin Arctus. I seriously can't think of why they'd tried to kill him all he was doing was clearing out covens of witches, necromancers, and other rogue magic users. Now Thalmor might wanna RBI k about running when he comes thundering along.

Savios Tyr my ancient Telvanni wizard (a char porter over from Morrowind to Obliion and now Skyrim) hasn't had much contact win them other than through Ancano, and he isn't exactly someone you'd want as poster boy.

Mouse my theif, has no opinion yet.

Aaron (named after a friend who passed) my Daedric clad Dovakhiin killed a whole fort full of them, so it's not like he made any friends there.

Mas'd my Khajiit assassin/illusionist killed them for there clothes so see above.

They are an antagonistic group whose sole purpose sort of destroys the point of defeating Alduin.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:58 am

The irony to me is that the Stormcloaks have the makings of a human variant faction like Thalmor. Or at least, I could see some cloaks take it that far. They're both full of religious and racial centric mania. When a Thalmor Justiciar tells me how important religion is to this conflict, I can picture some Nords wording it much the same. And when I delve into their superiority, it's latent in some Nord views too. From a Thalmor point of view, even some human centric gods are almost like divine enemies to elves. Shor, for example.. he's a patron of only humans, specifically. That would make me paranoid and pissed off as a Thalmor. Also, some of the greatest Nord heroes are lauded as being the greatest elf killers. Like Ysgramor. These two factions are at each other's throats in a big way, and not one is necessarily right.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:43 pm

The irony to me is that the Stormcloaks have the makings of a human variant faction like Thalmor. Or at least, I could see some cloaks take it that far. They're both full of religious and racial centric mania. When a Thalmor Justiciar tells me how important religion is to this conflict, I can picture some Nords wording it much the same. And when I delve into their superiority, it's latent in some Nord views too. From a Thalmor point of view, even some human centric gods are almost like divine enemies to elves. Shor, for example.. he's a patron of only humans, specifically. That would make me paranoid and pissed off as a Thalmor. Also, some of the greatest Nord heroes are lauded as being the greatest elf killers. Like Ysgramor. These two factions are at each other's throats in a big way, and not one is necessarily right.

Hi all,

I agree with most of the above.

Would also like to point out that IIRC it`s the humans who are the intruders in Tamriel. Skyrim isn`t Nord country to begin with, it`s Falmer country.

Human refugees came and with time robbed the rightful owners of their lands and most everything else.

I love Bethesda actually providing this "shades of grey" background. Sad they don`t use this ambiguity in actual quest design.

The Thalmor deserve a go at implementing their vision, just like any other faction(Forsworn anyone? Or, the mind boggles, Falmer?). It could be a great gaming experience to side with them in a mod.

Rgds, Haldir
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:15 am

Being fair, the Thalmor do have a place and a purpose.

The place is stripped and left for dead on the ground, and the purpose is to line my pockets with septims.

Whenever I'm up Solitude way I always sneak up to the embassy and let fly with a Stormcall shout...it stirs them up no end.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:36 am

Hi all,

I agree with most of the above.

Would also like to point out that IIRC it`s the humans who are the intruders in Tamriel. Skyrim isn`t Nord country to begin with, it`s Falmer country.

Human refugees came and with time robbed the rightful owners of their lands and most everything else.

I love Bethesda actually providing this "shades of grey" background. Sad they don`t use this ambiguity in actual quest design.

The Thalmor deserve a go at implementing their vision, just like any other faction(Forsworn anyone? Or, the mind boggles, Falmer?). It could be a great gaming experience to side with them in a mod.

Rgds, Haldir

Actually, according to Nord creation stories, humans were created in Skyrim, on High Hrothgar. So they believe that Skyrim is the original homeland of mankind. When the Nords returned to attack the Falmer, they were taking back their homeland from the elves who had driven them off in the first place.

The Cyrodiils are descendants of the Nedic people who, were the original inhabitants of the imperial province. It was the Ayleids who were the intruders there, enslaving the Nedes.

Even if you don't believe the Nord versions of creation, even the other creation stories say that both humans and elves originated on Tamriel, descended from the Ehlnofey. It was just SOME of the humans left, and then returned.

End of story: humans are no less intruders on Tamriel than the elves are.

Also, the original inhabitants of Summerset Isle/Alinor were the Sload, not the Altmer. The Altmer took it from them. So maybe they should return it and go live on the mainland.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:45 pm

The Thalmor are effectively the nazis of Tamriel. You're not supposed to like them. They're like... Elf-Supremacists! :smile:
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:20 am

There is a certain appeal to the Thalmor. After all, they want to end mortality with all its woes and pains. They don't really plan on genocide either, they want to erase the idea of humans from the universe. It's not murder if someone has never existed.
On the other hand, the mortal realm allows for personal development you just have to accept all the hardships. The Thalmor want a quick way out, kinda like suicide (or unbirth) knowing you go to heaven afterwards.
So i'm not really a "fan" but i can understand them.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:29 pm

Talos WAS in fact a God, and I have proof. It is proven when you need the blood of an Aedric artifact for the entering of Mankar Camorans Paradise.

The Gods dont normally manifest their divine presense in Tamriel, only through human avatars. But Tiber Septim, walking the wheel of Lorkhan, BECAME divine, his flesh and blood et'ada.

And it is for this reason alone that the Thalmor shall fall. What many fail to see is that while the Gods actions are not direct, they are felt. Thus it is wise not to offend a God, even a weakened, former human God.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:47 pm

The real twist is that there isn't much difference between the views of some Nords and the Thalmor, in some cases they are as bad as each other. When you have a political doctrine based on racial concepts, it never ends well.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:04 am

The real twist is that there isn't much difference between the views of some Nords and the Thalmor, in some cases they are as bad as each other. When you have a political doctrine based on racial concepts, it never ends well.

Seriously. How does anyone even consider either of these sides are that right, when their foundation is built upon something like that?

They're entertaining and all, but still..

It's probably a big reason why I sympathize with Imperials. I end up playing as agnostically and racially neutral as possible.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:17 pm

Finished my drawing of Ondolemar... http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a229/drakkenfan/ondfinalj.jpg
Oh yes.. I am a Thalmor fan. :)
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