He really gets pissed off even having to choose the imperials. As far as I can tell, he only has a beef with Ulfric. Which doesn't necessarily mean he wants to side with imperials.

"But, but... They've got cool uniforms! And I'm not one of those shifty humans!"

The Jarl of Whiterun obviously accept the Empire at the condition they don't militarize the town. That doesn't make him neutral. The Empire just has to insist a bit to be able to place their troops in the city, while Stormcloaks have to take Whiterun by the force. If that's neutral for you, you'll have problem to understand geopolitics.

And again I'm talking about the power of Thalmor. Where is it? They are unable to make Whiterun respect the white gold concordat, their attempt to take control of the Winterhold College is pathetic : just the egomaniac power trip of one of them when there's the occasion.
So seriously, where are they? Where are the Thalmor?

They have no way to back up their claims of supremacy, and that's why they're so pathetic.

I think the game mechanics play into the weak perception of Thalmor as well. I mean, they're supposed to be mages who are generally hundreds of years old or something. That isn't something most people want to fight. In most fantasy stories, just one mage can decimate or control entire towns of people.

At the early levels, they're tough, but the distinction lessens over time. The way the story is written is that they're pretty damn formidable though.

Ofcourse the high Thalmor rulers will be ages old, powerfull wizards, But I do not expect every Justificar sent to a place like Skyrim to be powerfull. They'r just soldiers after all.

Are you serious? They're certainly a lot harder to take out than those CW fools. Ulfric & his dog didn't even take a second to dispatch.

that is the most homo errotic thing ive seen in along time... not a fan lol sorry if u like u thalmor irl then u should probably just die ha

Geez. Serious business. You want him to die? lol. That's kind of pathetic.

There are so many better candidates for "death", in the big picture of things.

The Thalmor do have some standards though, the guards at Northwatch Keep scolded my High Elf mage for having dead thralls. "People like you give mages a bad name shame on you."

My responce was to stormcall.

Also his annoying ranting is probably more effective at stamping out Talos worship then fostering it. Plus they could just sit back and make a list of everyone who stops to listen.


Go to Northwatch Keep, also there was no plan to take over WInterhold until that guys Egomanical power trip He was simply a spy until you found the eye.

Obviously whiterun keeps some form of independance. At the start of the game, they are basically saying. We haven't taken sides yet, fight us and we just might. That they lean heavily towards the Empire is clear, however neither sides dares to force the issue (at first) because it might just drive Whiterun away. That's why there aren't any Thalmor there...


Mages are powerful, but the Thalmor and mages in general aren't always some kind of super power that can destroy entire cities with a wave of their hand. Even their highest up rulers probably aren't that powerful.

He calls Talos worshippers maggots in the field. He must be a Thalmor Agent.

I think they were aiming for something close to that though. For example, if you talk to one imperial captain about his war stories, he's still haunted by one battle with the thalmor. It seems like they were aiming for some serious mage firepower angle, the way he talked.

They're the most racist bastards out there. No offence.

And yet he survived the battle and in the end the empire fought the Thalmor to a stand still, and Hammerfell kicked them out. The thalmor aren't all powerful wizard beings, it's unlikely that overal they would be that much more powerful then Bretons, and mages can die rather easily be a sword in their stomach just like everybody else. You have to understand only the most powerful of the most powerful are trully capable of making vast differences and generally speaking those wizards are in the Psijic order...

I've created a character who's entire existence is devoted to the destruction of the Thalmor.

His name is Soth (10 internets to whoever pegs the series).

I'm not trying to say they're superbeings or anything. Just that they're level of threat isn't reflected in game well, compared to how the story presents them. When people are dismissive of them, I think it's partly the game's fault. The whole game becomes too easy at a certain point. Each justiciar should be like a mini-boss battle, as far as I'm concerned.

They tend to focus too much on Destruction, also they're not as immune to magic as Bretons. Saying that, they have the largest mana pool as High Elf, so they would probably outcast everyone, provided that they can survive through the incoming attacks.

You are not alone brother I too would like to join the ranks of the Thalmor.

What the...? Did you actually just call my artwork homo erotic and tell me I should die? Seriously?
First of all, I'm not "homo"... I'm a girl. Secondly, telling someone they should "die" is totally messed up and immature. If you don't like my art, then say it you don't like it, but don't tell me I should die!

Don't sweat it. He obviously has some mental illness, if a simple drawing invokes wishes of death on people.

Why? What makes an individual Thalmor justicar better then a random necromancer? They are soldiers in an army, not everybody is an insanely powerful mage, hell not even all Altmer learn magic...

Why? Because they're the big bad of the future.. this is what everyone is supposed to be worried about.. and yet, most players can shred 3 of them in under 10 seconds? This might be funny for awhile and ultimate "pwnage" on their empty threats, but it's silly and bad for storytelling.. if this is supposed to be an enemy the rest of human lands have to worry about.

As much as people hate DA2, running into just one blood mage or Sarrebas is a pain in the butt, if you don't pay attention. Especially on the high difficulty. While here, you can still take out these elves easily on Master.

edit: I suppose the same gripe would pertain to most dragons, btw.

Same. I'll pay the bounty lol.

They shouldn't be. The Empire of Titus Mede is bound to fail, either in the next game or in a book. If the next game involves a war between the Empire and the Aldmeri Dominion, I'd support the Dominion.

They are! As was previously explained in the thread.

The Thalmor seek to destroy Lorkhan's creation to their own (and only their own!) benefit.