"features as REAL TIME...WEAPON CHANGE!"

Couldn't you sheathe staffs on your back in Oblivion???

In a "real" Combat dual wielding is kind of useless, where do you want to put the weapons and how to draw them at the same time?

If enough people actually cared, this could probably get fixed. But people just read through this thread and think "yea another bug" and move on. And bethesda goes on to fix something else. This really needs to be fixed!

I wants to be spartacus

Hmm, I never thought of that. Dragon Age: Origins does this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8mwg7G0t2c very well (even on console). But I suspect most play Skyrim in the first person anyway. However, it is a bit jarring, now that you pointed that out. It would be cool to see the animation drawing both weapons out .

I wouldnt say dual wielding is useless. In "real" combat if you are using a longsword you would use a dagger in your other hand. Or 2 dagger or smaller swords. You need to either be naturally ambidextrous or learn how to use both hand well in combat. But to say that dual wielding doesnt work in combat is a bit far fetched. We all use our fists "right left" whenever we get into a fight. Its difficult but not impossible.

Well as i wrote. That would need a changed Skeleton since you have to add bones where these weapons will be placed on your character. Also this Anim would bring a new bug, if you unsheath your weapon like that it would "cut" through the sheath. Drawing a sword from the back is not possible, only if you have monkey arms. While cross unsheathing you would cut yourself.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/36/MS_44_A_8_1v.jpg I know what i am talking about. It is to heavy to make powerful hits with one Hand.

right. longsword may have been the wrong choice of words here. but it has been done in history mostly with a normal sword and a dagger or 2 daggers. smaller swords as it is.

Wouldn't know which used two swords. In european medieval it was common to use a shield and a sword or the Longsword. The Saracen were known for using two sabres, the they were not as heavy as an european sword.

Well however BTT:
Maybe the swords in Skyrim are forged in a super light way. At least if it comes to unsheath dual weapons it would look weird all the time.

Yes you could. And there was also a physical animation for it.

In Skyrim, your char has a physical animation for sheathing a RH weapon as well as a 2H. Those animations correlate with a visibly sheathed weapon. A weapon that is equipped in the LH or a staff has no animation. It seems to me that this is just an oversight.

No animation...no weapon...no bug.

It would be nice to see these things. But it would be something that would have to be implemented into the game rather than tweaking something that was already there and just not working correctly.

Besides there's a lot of other quest related things and general game mechanics that need to be addressed. At the moment, those things are far more important than an off hand sheathed weapon not appearing.

I believe it was the samurai that did it but I might be wrong. I do rememeber reading about recenlty though.

Samurai used ONE Katana, since it was a two handed weapon. They had more swords on their belt, but only used one of these at once. Since the Katana was a soft but thick and heavy sword. (it never broke but was easy to bent)

If you see pictures of a Ninja or Samurai with two Katanas it is fiction. Ninjas rarely used Katanas at all.

The Katana and the Wakizashi. The latter being the smaller of the two.

Kind of annoying. Dual-Wielding is such a great addition to the game, yet it seems like it was a last minute idea, you don't even pull the secondary sword out.

While the Wakizashi was only used for ritual suicide or to behead a dead enemy. Also as replacement for an damaged Katana. Both the Katana and Wakizashi were worn together as Daisho (weapon pair) but not used together.

Although that may be stated on the Wikipedia as such. I assure you that they were in DW with devastating results.

EDIT : It would be foolish to consider Samurai anything less than Masters at DW.

It feels like it would be easy to cross your arms and unsheath two swords, with the sheaths hanging from the hip. Just cross your arms, one over top of the other, obviously, and syncronize the unsheathing. One sword will cross over just above the other.

You've seen people cross draw guns before, holsters hanging from the chest.

Beth did say that dual-wielding came along quite a bit after the rest of the combat system, so that might have something to do with it

Sources? http://chapter18.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/samurai.jpg

@Arctorius

Well if no one is able to change the skeleton we will have to live with that, what we have.

@VirusType2

Well a Pistol or Revolver is no sword with a long blade.

You honestly think that a warrior, with 2 swords was not trained in using them in tandem?
You actually believe that?
I have been in this world for many years. I have been around the world 6 times. I do not need to post on a topic in one window and dictate out of another one. But If you must have something. http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-wakizashi-sword.htm

Why is it that people read too much into this internet stuff?

Only ONE is known for fighting with Wakizashi and the Katana and it was "Miyamoto Musashi". And since the most fights were Duels even he fought just with ONE sword the Katana. My Infos are not from the Internet they are from "Gorin no Sho" and i think you know that.

Not impossible, especially from the sides where one draws their sword with the grip of the fingers facing the side of their bodies, like using two sidearms. But anyway, we are talking about *fantasy* (<-- my emphasis) games, where it is more implausible to dual wield staves than swords, yet that can be done as well in Skyrim. You have heard of the term "suspension of disbelief"? Let me see, we even could dual wield energy swords (Halo) and light sabers (KoTORs 1 and 2), Yikes, that is even more dangerous.

Ok...so we went from none to...ONE. And you think it stops there?
Nevermind, don't answer that. This has gone way off topic.

Not impossible no. But if the people say the sword comes from nowhere. Just think if you make cross unsheath. It will be clipping at some points, thats not the best solution afterall. Also it would need a lot of work and i don't know if anyone will do it because is it really that game breaking?

@Senior Cinco

Indeed way to offtopic, thats while i will let you your thinking of "There are two opinions MINE and the false"

EDIT: deleted the first line, it was already adressed

The katana is neither light nor heavy. It's actually pretty average in terms of weight. Unless of course european longswords were just as light, which would make me believe that dual weilding them would be EASY (sorry but it is NOT heavy to swing. AT ALL. Only people who never held a sword in their life would tell you otherwise)

And ninjas are still being debated on whether they existed or not, but on thing is for sure: if they DID exist, they used whatever they could find. If they COULD kill a samurai they could take his sword and use it without much problem, but they wouldn't use it for long (the katana might have a super sharp edge, it became dull rather quickly, and maintaining it was rather difficult for someone untrained in doing so)