Registration codes or moving away from hard media are the most likely answers.

I don't think it's going to work to be honest. It's dependent on all 3 (or at least Sony and Microsoft) agreeing to do it. All it takes is one of them declaring they won't do it and the system falls apart, because people are likely to flock to the system that doesn't have all the arbitrary restrictions. I can't see either side trusting the other one to keep their word, and making any legal deal that forced them both to honor this idea would probably break some anti-trust laws.

Same way they do on Steam. Require an interent connection, a personal account, and an activation code. Once the code's been activated, it'll only play on that account.

But that's a total revamp on the system the console use as of now, which is why I said I can see it being implemented on PC, where PC games require that activation code. There really is no way that it could be enforced with console, and besides that, used game stores like EB Games would be pretty much run out of business which is bad for the economy, and job market. If you ask me it will not go very far, game studios still receive some money from used game just not as much as they do from new games, and like Rel_ Dovahkin said all platform companies have to agree for this to even be considered, the min one says " no way " it's down the crapper.

I wasn't calling you out on being harsh It was the dad in me being a little soft on the younger gen with a little explanation to go along with it.

Thanks carrots, and yeah i get that they all have to agree but couldn't they put out an update so that you can use controller combination cheats like in GTA or saints row? I still think they could figure something out without breaking the rules.

I think what your looking for has more to do with the fact that all the buttons are already spoken for( control wise ) and that they couldn't add any more to whats there.But that still doesn't mean that you couldn't pause the game ( so as to free up buttons ) so you could enter codes. But like I said before, if you invest a little bit of time you can create a " god " yourself in a matter of hours, which in my opinion is more satisfying cause you still need to put a little work into it.
I can bang out a Lv.81.5, with the best gear, all smithed to ridiculous amounts of damage and armor rating in about 5-6 hours using the ogham glitch and the restoration potion loop, so really codes( like those of GTA ) are kinda redundant, console command on the other hand is something totally different. Not only can you " cheat " with it but it can be used to fix stuff like, stuck quests, if you end up stuck somewhere, etc...etc...

Anything created using Beth's creation kit is their property. If you don't use the creation kit they don't belong to Bethesda.

It would be awesome if one next xbox you could plug in a keyboard and type stuff up, but we gotta wait till next year to see

I wish people would stop saying cheats are not allowed on the console games. There are plenty of console games that allow cheats. MS and Sony don't want us issuing command line statements to their units. Bethesda could implement menu/'push-button' cheats into the Xbox and PS3 versions if they wanted to.

It really depends upon which lobby gives the House and Senate more money. From a common sense standpoint reselling games is no different from reselling books. As long as no copy has been made of either you can only 'use' one of the units at a time. The used game thing is purely greed-based and whichever lobby gives the most money will win.

Thats what I'm talking about, to be able to open up a menu and put in a code like Force Unleashed or saints row or something. Just put in a combination or a code at the menu. Console commands might give you more but I'd be to settle with regular cheat codes.

I seriously doubt Bethesda will add them (pretty sure they won't add them to Skyrim), but they do other things like not fixing the Oghma Infinium glitch. I think they have no intention to fix that and it's quite possible that it was deliberate - it's a few crumbs tossed to us console players.

Ms/Sony are more worried about the carrots on sticks that show up in your profile. Like I jumped to my death achievements.

They don't want mods on their systems because of possible security breaches. Such as viruses etc coding in a file can also let people track you. Sorta like cookies can track what sites you visit and what you type down.

Waaaiiittt aaa minute...... I don't see no stick

i know, but Some PC users are just SELFISH bastards and for some reason say that it should stay on PC for no reason at all, and don't give me that "oh PC can handle it a lot more than Xbox can" because it can't. i think the cheating console should have been on the Consoles LONNNGGG before the PC

And some console users are simply bigots... you've bought the cheaper product, don't expect it to be on par with a more expensive one. It's how the market works.

It Depends what you mean by cheaper, and what you say about console users are true, but just hate it when people think PC is better than the consoles, because they are not that is the only point im trying to get across... oh and if you meant me by what you said , well not very nice. and by selfish bastards i didn't mean you unless you consider yourself to be so for some reason

Pc users are just spoiled brats. I'm on xbox, and yes i do want cheats, but i think ps3 should still get the cheats too. And it is perfectly possible to have CHEAT CODES not mods not hacks and not console commands, its been in countless other games, and yes it won't be able to give you as much as console commands but its still gives you something to play around with when you're bored. I want a cheat code that allows you to kill important npc's, cause i really could care less about the story line, and I've already beaten it twice.

*cough* PC elite *cough*

consoles can be placed at this point those cheats?

Surprised this hasn't been locked yet given the path it's on. Soon no doubt.

Anyways, those of you on the consoles begging for "cheat codes" really have no idea what you're talking about. The console is not intended to allow PC users only to cheat at the game, it's a developer tool used for testing purposes that would be more trouble than it's worth to remove from the game. Using the console to "cheat" on the PC is a side matter and not the intended use of the console at all.

But please keep on beating that horse, lord knows we need more pointless threads on this subject.

If its pointless why are you on it? Just wondering, but i guess if you're a pc player you would think its worthless.

If you want console commands ... buy (or build) a PC.

Get real! Stop living in pretend land.

One can say the exact same thing for Console users. Infact I see more console users being that.

But the systems are not going to have console commands for these reasons.
Console companies in general don't like debug/console commands as they are used to cheat.
They don't like cheats.
Causes bugs and other glitches upto and including corrupted data.
You can easily stress your console.
This leads to tech support/customer support problems and calls.
Results in loss of sales or loss in online community.
Carrots on sticks matter to console companies. They see them as a way to increase longevity of the games and systems. Console commands make it easier to get these.
Console commands can and are used during online play. Even normal cheats are used this way.

Now. A pc is infact better than a console because they can handle better textures refresh rates etc ect better than consoles. Condoles have a hard time handling things. That's why games have downplayed graphics and auto aim etc. they also can't handle to much stuff going on. Its a cold hard simple fact. It's not me being a elitest.

Yes and most console players are fully aware of the points that keep getting thrown in our face, bbbbbuuuutttt, the parts that I highlighted are statements that prove that you as a PC player( if you are one ) have no clue as to what your talking about.
1. I can turn off the auto aim on all games that have a auto aim feature.
2.My textures and graphics are just a little bit below that of vanilla PC
3. What about multi player games? FPS have multiple things going on all at the same time, plus if you add in on-line play then the predictability of what a character is going to do is off the wall, where as a game controlled NPC is predictable.

I wouldn't be so defensive of PC players giving us console players a little bit of a hard time( as long as it's all in good fun ) but the same general points are always brought up about consoles and generally those statements are false / misinformed.

The market doesn't work - it's bloated - because people like you who feed the machine. You keep buying the latest CPUs, memory, and graphics cards so you can get 1000 more polygons and 5 more frames per second. Then post your config in your sig like it makes you look cool. Using words like "cheaper product" makes you more of a "bigot" than the average console gamer.

If the thread doesn't get locked you can flame me all you like - I won't say anymore other than: it's not about being able to afford a top notch gaming PC I just got tired of chasing upgrades because of gaming companies. I got tired of having one badass PC and a bunch of good and decent components lying around.

His screen name is "Ego" - do you really expect anything polite or useful?