Dark Souls Discussion Thread #3 (PC version confirmed!)

Post » Fri May 04, 2012 7:54 am

Wtf is a twink?
"Twinking" is a process, usually used in MMORPGs, where players outfit low-level characters in high-level gear to make them overpowered for their particular level range.
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Madeleine Rose Walsh
 
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 3:37 pm

I said in my original post that
1. It's the most difficult game of all time
and
2. Which is just about right (the difficulty)
What point are you disputing? I'm very confused.
I'd just like to get an idea of what games you consider more difficult than Dark Souls, as a gamer. Every gamer is different, and entitled to their own opinions and tastes.
Hands Fallen Sins of a Solar Empire,play a game on vicious setting with over 3 enemy AI,that would put that outlandish statement "hardest game of all time" to rest.I'm not saying its the hardest game around,but I would bank money on it being more of a challenge.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 4:06 am

Beat the bridge demon, only took me four tries. Wonder what is coming up next. Parnoid parrot syndrome has me running back to the main undead burg area to use the fire before proceeding. I assume that demon doesn't re-spawn? That would svck.

Edit
Got the black knights shield. What a pile of junk. This thing is so slow it's completely impractical. Once I ditched in in favor of mobility I easily bested the bridge demon.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 1:47 pm

Bosses don't respawn. Though you might feel a little silly running back, considering that you'll open up a shortcut to the bonfire a short way ahead. :tongue:
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 6:29 am

Bosses don't respawn. Though you might feel a little silly running back, considering that you'll open up a shortcut to the bonfire a short way ahead. :tongue:
Paranoid Parrot senses. I seen the long gigantic ass bridge with undead on it. It looked suspicious, too easy. Seen the sun guy who gave me an item. Then looked at only 4 of my flasks left. Nope, time to go back. I was also carrying 10k souls. Not something I want dropped so far away and in hostile area.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 7:32 am

Never played it. Still thinking about getting it for PC, I have beaten Demon's Souls, but Diablo III is on my mind right now until it comes out.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 7:06 am

Found this weird bug thing in the tower before the bridge demon. When killed, it gave me what looked like armour/weapon upgrades.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 9:23 am

Found this weird bug thing in the tower before the bridge demon. When killed, it gave me what looked like armour/weapon upgrades.
They are rare things indeed. I've only ever seen two of them. I wish there was more of them... They appear randomly in your world if another player has dropped some of his items on the ground. (or that's how they're supposed to appear).
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 12:34 pm

I'm really thinking about picking this up. Am I in for a world of hurt?
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 7:49 am

I agree with Septiego. It is a difficult game, but I don't think it will go down as an all time hardest game.

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Got around to playing some more. At some castle near the starting area. It's got some skeletons. Inside the sewer is a giant rat leading to said castle. Lots of bomb throwers. Anyone know the name of this place?

If you're talking about Dead or Alive, I'd say that Fighting games can be a challenge. Otherwise? I find that I can beat every one of them by simply mashing buttons. I can mash buttons REALLY fast.

Also, Gamgee I'm really glad you've picked it up and are having fun!!! :biggrin: Congrats on beating the first boss. :banana:
However, to impress me you'll have to do something I never could - beat the game on NG+. I got as far as the four kings. Also, I don't have Xbox Live, so I played offline.

Hands Fallen Sins of a Solar Empire,play a game on vicious setting with over 3 enemy AI,that would put that outlandish statement "hardest game of all time" to rest.I'm not saying its the hardest game around,but I would bank money on it being more of a challenge.
Never played it. But, as you did, I shall judge them with out trying them and say that Dark Souls is more difficult. Hands down.
What's that? You find that impossibly frustrating? Hm. How odd.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 12:19 pm

I'm really thinking about picking this up. Am I in for a world of hurt?
If you're playing blind and not looking at walkthroughs where great stuff can be found, yes. But that's a golden experience you shouldn't ruin by looking at guides. It's a fun first playthrough.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 9:14 am

To any "Dark Souls" Veterans out there is Magic a viable character build for this game?

I mean can you actually succeed as like a Pure Mage or Pyromancer?

I have a Knight who is just making his way through Blight Town and from what I've seen of magic so far I wonder if it is actually a viable way to play?

Let me know if you know.

Az
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 3:39 am

However, to impress me you'll have to do something I never could - beat the game on NG+. I got as far as the four kings. Also, I don't have Xbox Live, so I played offline.
You've got to get to at least NG+3 (maybe 2) to get all the trophies. Unless you get them on separate characters.
To any "Dark Souls" Veterans out there is Magic a viable character build for this game?

I mean can you actually succeed as like a Pure Mage or Pyromancer?

I have a Knight who is just making his way through Blight Town and from what I've seen of magic so far I wonder if it is actually a viable way to play?

Let me know if you know.

Az
Magic and faith builds are certainly viable. However, these builds usually involve supplementing spells/miracles with a weapon that has been buffed via spells/miracles (to reach absurd damage for a short time). These builds are incredibly popular in PvP, but also fair well in PvE.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 10:59 am

I wasn't referring to Dead or Alive. I have no idea what my most difficult game is, but this isn't it. I don't know if I have one. I don't really think of games like that. The closest has to be Monster Hunter, but again with patience and skill it can be beaten.

Edit
I'm doing pretty good considering this is the first time in like 10+ years I've used a controller this extensively.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 10:17 am

Yes, this would be a blind playthrough and I haven't played Demon's Souls either.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 2:42 pm

To any "Dark Souls" Veterans out there is Magic a viable character build for this game?

I mean can you actually succeed as like a Pure Mage or Pyromancer?

I have a Knight who is just making his way through Blight Town and from what I've seen of magic so far I wonder if it is actually a viable way to play?

Let me know if you know.

Az
There's two types really: Magic for PvP and magic for PvE. Using only magic in PvE will require you to invest much more on attunement, and also keep a back-up weapon with you. For PvP magic, low attunement and only 2 or max 4 spells is the key to success.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 2:45 pm

Good lord what have I done?! Oh. I fixed it.
Wait
No. I completely [censored] my post. Nice. Ok let's try that again.

To any "Dark Souls" Veterans out there is Magic a viable character build for this game?

I mean can you actually succeed as like a Pure Mage or Pyromancer?

I have a Knight who is just making his way through Blight Town and from what I've seen of magic so far I wonder if it is actually a viable way to play?

Let me know if you know.

Az

Yes, if you're willing to spend extra time grinding. The spells have a limited number of uses, which recharge when you use a bonfire. Don't forget, though, that when you bonfire all enemies are revived. You can attune (equip) multiple copies of the same spell, if you've bought it twice. Hence the extra grinding.
You will need to keep a sword handy for weaklings, and kill stronger stuff with magic. Eventually, you'll unlock magic, and even later enchanted, weapons. Their damage is based on int instead of str/dex.


You've got to get to at least NG+3 (maybe 2) to get all the trophies. Unless you get them on separate characters.


Its commonly believed that all boss soul weapons must be on the same character. This is untrue. I never once beat a NG+ so all of Sif's souls weapons are on different characters. I did get the achievement, but I play XBOX. The trophy logic may be different.


I wasn't referring to Dead or Alive. I have no idea what my most difficult game is, but this isn't it. I don't know if I have one. I don't really think of games like that. The closest has to be Monster Hunter, but again with patience and skill it can be beaten. Edit I'm doing pretty good considering this is the first time in like 10+ years I've used a controller this extensively.

AH! I wish I had a PSP so I could try it. Have you played Monster Rancher? I believe that may have been the "original" released back in day. I did enjoy that game, but eventually stopped due to an overwhelming amount of grinding.
You really should play DoA, if only for the boobies. :biggrin:

Yes, this would be a blind playthrough and I haven't played Demon's Souls either.
I never played Demon's Souls and still VERY much enjoyed Dark souls. Don't worry about the story. Is supposed to make NO sense.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 2:35 pm

Ah, oh my god absolutely crushing defeat. 3k souls. I was doing so good, I was literally on my way to go heal/save/level. I've not even used more than 2 of my flasks. So I'm doing great clearing this place out. I go to fight some skeletons. I miss my swing, no problem. Then I attack again and I accidentally triggered jump attack right into 3 monsters. I still don't even know what I pressed. This is like the 5th time I've died to that jump attack. I wish I could toggle it off in a menu or something. (PS3) So I lost my 3k souls and about 3 humanity. I tried to go back for it, but ended up dying again. The second time was my fault for rushing. Still such a dumb death (the first one).

If it makes you feel better, my BIGGEST lost was 15 humanity and 70K souls.
I did'nt really care about the souls... You can get them again. BUT OH - THE HUMANITY!!!
lil joke there.

Jump attack is directional stick + Attack... let go of the stick when you attack.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 12:16 pm

I never played Demon's Souls and still VERY much enjoyed Dark souls. Don't worry about the story. Is supposed to make NO sense.
Demon's Souls and Dark Souls are not connected in any way as far as the story goes; they're separate IPs.

While being told without being told (read: minimalistic story telling), the story of Dark Souls isn't meant to make no sense. You as a player have to uncover it yourself, but it's there. Demon's Souls, while being told in a very similar fashion, excels on the story front more so than Dark Souls does, in my opinion.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 5:27 pm

Demon's Souls and Dark Souls are not connected in any way as far as the story goes; they're separate IPs.

While being told without being told (read: minimalistic story telling), the story of Dark Souls isn't meant to make no sense. You as a player have to uncover it yourself, but it's there. Demon's Souls, while being told in a very similar fashion, excels on the story front more so than Dark Souls does, in my opinion.

The amount of work required to unlock the Dark Hand covenant, and Kath, is greater than any game. As he is the only character who clearly explains everything, I'd say the story is not supposed to make any sense. If you work REAL hard, eventually a story is revealed... but if you don't? No story. It's optional, and therefore, my original point of "It's not essential to play Demon's Souls to understand Dark Soul's story" is completely valid. Do you have some personal problem with me, or do you just one of those annoying people who disagrees with everything?

If, like me, he thought that the game made no sense because he missed the first game - he might be discouraged from finishing it. I just wanted to impress the fact that the correct response to the opening move is
"Um. Ok? That makes no sense."
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 10:29 am

The amount of work required to unlock the Dark Hand covenant, and Kath, is greater than any game. As he is the only character who clearly explains everything, I'd say the story is not supposed to make any sense. If you work REAL hard, eventually a story is revealed... but if you don't? No story. It's optional, and therefore, my original point of "It's not essential to play Demon's Souls to understand Dark Soul's story" is completely valid. Do you have some personal problem with me, or do you just one of those annoying people who disagrees with everything?

If, like me, he thought that the game made no sense because he missed the first game - he might be discouraged from finishing it. I just wanted to impress the fact that the correct response to the opening move is
"Um. Ok? That makes no sense."
I don't have any problem with you, nor am I overly disagreeable (don't let the fact that I'm disagreeing with you undermine what I just said), I just think it's wrong to say Dark Souls' story is supposed to make no sense; it's just minimalistic. Its story is told through a snippet of dialogue here, an item description there, the environment, etc. and your imagination to stitch it all together and fill in the blanks. FROM has been writing stories like this for a long time now.

As for the Demon's Souls remark, I interpreted that to mean you enjoyed DKS' story despite not having played DS, which would imply that generally one should play the latter first in order to be able to enjoy the former. Just thought I'd clear up that the two games are unrelated.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 4:02 pm

I don't have any problem with you, nor am I overly disagreeable (don't let the fact that I'm disagreeing with you undermine what I just said), I just think it's wrong to say Dark Souls' story is supposed to make no sense; it's just minimalistic. Its story is told through a snippet of dialogue here, an item description there, the environment, etc. and your imagination to stitch it all together and fill in the blanks. FROM has been writing stories like this for a long time now.

As for the Demon's Souls remark, I interpreted that to mean you enjoyed DKS' story despite not having played DS, which would imply that generally one should play the latter first in order to be able to enjoy the former. Just thought I'd clear up that the two games are unrelated.

Ah! Thanks for the clarification... But that was also my main point :happy: I'm glad we agree.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 3:21 am

Ah! Thanks for the clarification... But that was also my main point :happy: I'm glad we agree.
About that opening movie though.. That imagery is about as heavy metal you can get. :lol:
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 12:27 pm

If you're talking about Dead or Alive, I'd say that Fighting games can be a challenge. Otherwise? I find that I can beat every one of them by simply mashing buttons. I can mash buttons REALLY fast.

Also, Gamgee I'm really glad you've picked it up and are having fun!!! :biggrin: Congrats on beating the first boss. :banana:
However, to impress me you'll have to do something I never could - beat the game on NG+. I got as far as the four kings. Also, I don't have Xbox Live, so I played offline.


Never played it. But, as you did, I shall judge them with out trying them and say that Dark Souls is more difficult. Hands down.
What's that? You find that impossibly frustrating? Hm. How odd.
I'm basing my opinion on the exaggeration theory that seems to be so prevalent these days.People have been spoiled these days with games you can blast through blind folded,the moment a game comes along that forces a player to use a slight amount of thinking they deem it to hard.I remember people saying Mass Effect 2 was to hard,that explains a few things about some modern gamers.IL Sturmovik is another extremely hard game that springs to mind(pure WW2 flight simulator).
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 5:00 pm

Made it past drake, got cindered once. Went back, ran across. Simple. Handy message sall over the area in sight of his tail. Heard idle chat once about shooting it. Fired at it a whole bunch of times, and boom a nice sword. I went into the castle. Up some tower and tried to fight a knight. I can't figure out how to fight them in such close quarters. My sword is at least doing 40-60 now instead of the 22-30. So I could probably kill it much easier, but dodging it is proving a pain. His attacks seem to heat seek. The bull came very close to killing me down below after the black knight got finished with me. However I just walked around him poking him to death. My sword kept bouncing off. Any sort of strategy to hit him without that happening? It was just me whittling it down. It was easy, but boring and long.

Then I got disconnected for like 2 seconds and messed up everything. That is where I rage quit, I was doing so good too other than said black knight.
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