I hate her so much.
I am considering making a mod just to change it so i can kill her.
she sux... hate her so much..

she hates the greybeards, is bias, wants 2 kill parthunax (i.e the best dragon evuh)

huh... well she is a well-designed npc, as in she is able to get her thoughts across... but I think they added 2 much terrible attitude to her... shes not a member of the blades i know and kinda am on good terms with mentally...

It's a matter of opinion - I hate her too, but I see where she's coming from. She wants to protect Tamriel from dragons, and is doing her utmost to do so!

Her and Esbern's logic regarding Paarthurnax is really shallow. It irritates me to no end.

Delphine allegedly serves and protects the Dragonborn. Nonsense. The Blades exist solely to use the Dragonborn to their own ends, killing dragons. The way it plays out, YOU serve THEM "and if you don't play by our rules you're not welcome in our new clubhouse that you risked your own life to get us, so nyah!" I hate the way the whole thing devolves into pettiness and childish behavior.

The first time I encountered their insistence that I kill you-know-who, I was all "What!? He helped me. I couldn't have done any of it without his aid! Blah blah blah" Went out to the back yard of the temple and ahem inadvertantly called up a full blown Storm Call (love that shout) while Delphine and Esbern were outside with me. Owie! They both kept getting knocked down, but not dying, and they walked back inside. When the storm had subsided, I went back in and they were discussing what a petulant child I was. Hehehe, made my day.

This is bugging me a bit, and has for awhile.


To me that is enough reason to stick a sword in him.

There is a spoiler section for this sort of thing... What if someone didn't know you had to kill a certain dragon during the blades questline?

I would taker her out for a nice sea food dinner and never call her back!

While Pathunax does help, he's killed hundreds/thousands of humans in his life. At the risk of invoking Godwin's Law, it's like letting Martin Bormann off because he helped you kill Stalin.

She dosn't svck. She actually cares about saving skyrim from the dragons. The greybeards just sit in thier tower ALL day and don't do ANYTHING to help with what's going on. Such as the civil war. delphine CARES.

Well I like Paarthurnax too, but in my opinion killing Paarthurnax might not be 100% evil and cruel.

AFAIK, as Dragonborn, you are the only one capable of truly killing a dragon, since you absorb its soul. Dragons killed by others can be raised again by the "Slen Tiid Vo" shout that Alduin used. I am not sure whether other dragons can use that shout, but it is a fact that you are the Last Dragonborn, as stated by the prophecy, and prophecies always come true in TES.

Your being Dragonborn is supposedly because of your soul which is blessed by Akatosh, not your blood, so I don't think your descendants will be Dragonborn. Thus, from a pessimistic point of view, since Paarthurnax is immortal, he can simply wait till you die and then betray the mortals of Tamriel and there would be no one capable of truly stopping them unless Akatosh decides to bless another person to become Dragonborn.

EDIT: Oops, accidentally put in an extra "not" which made me contradict myself. Removed it.

I love how people's first reaction to not liking someone in skyrim is to try to kill them.

Wow this is Interesting.

And he helped defeat Alduin the first time around saving hundreds to thousands of lives. And this time around, he helps the dragonborn who otherwise would not be able to defeat Alduin. As a result, he saves hundreds or thousands more.

UncleMikey has it - the Dragonborn serves the Blades, not the other way around.

I still like the blades. They helped stop the oblivion crisis. The main reason i killed pathunax.

actaully the blades dont cater to the dragonborn bc u are not the leader but a star player. U are part of a teamand the blades give u intel and train ur followers so that u have a better chance at surviving. One thing that bothered me was why the oringinal three didnt trust the dragons and the reason is is that their reasons for helping are not the same reasons as yours. Your reason is to save the mortal race befofe the world gets eatten and the dragons reason is because alduin has overstepped his bounds and needs to be put down. We are actually a tool for the dragons because we are the only ones that can hurt and defeat alduin. Paar has be up on his mountain awY from mortals out of survival and mediates to suppress his need to dominate but right when we tell paar that aldiins dead hes off to dominate the dragons. Now that they dont need the mortals now therez no telling what hes up to. Delphie dosent trust him not bc he helped us its because he switched sides and now that alduins gone what is paar actions going to be now? Also why trust a turncoat when thier danger that keeps them in check is gone?

This is quite what I am getting at.

War Criminal gets reprieve for joining Peace Corps? I don't think so. There is no Statute of Limitations on genocide.

At least that is what my Orc warrior feels, my mage will keep him alive to get all the knowledge he can out of him. After that, what anyone wants to do with him is their business.

I'd still like to know the people he supposedly genocided.

If you're referring to the dragon war, Alduin's role is extremely important.(It is quite necessary that the world be completely destroyed and reborn now and then.) Alduin said it was time to go. So they showed up and started doing what they do best. Paarth eventually realized that not only was Alduin not doing his job, it wasn't even the right time to be doing it. He sided with the humans, taught them the voice, and aided their fight against Alduin.

Alduin gets sent forward in time. Without a leader, the dragons start doing whatever suits them. Some attacked people, some didn't. One of them would eventually join Tiber Septim's army guarding Tiber's interests at Stros M'Kai and was one of the mercs in Tiber Septim's initial conquest army.

Delphine has a single-track mind. We learn this the first time we meet her. It's only the task before her that matters.

OTOH, I have to admit to an understanding of her point of view. I, too, have been fobbed off a career that was full of promise and purpose by busybodies. She longs for a world where things ran like clockwork, full of reason, shy on ambiguity.

I blame the MBAs of Skyrim for screwing things up.

Those of us not fortunate enough to live as long as Dragons cannot simply gloss over the events of the Dragon War, nor simply take a long view such as "the world must be rebuilt from time to time". When the dragons decided to slay men "by the thousands", I would consider that genocide.

When their second in command says "You are wise not to trust dragons, but you can trust me; "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzYO0joolR0." Forgive me if I don't. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtueZUIVyXk?

And which of you were around to know the circumstances of that time?

I personally dont really care or take afront paar slayed men in the past, its his motives that to me not trust him. I really didnt like the faxt I spared him on one playthru because I thought he was different and respected us until the end when paar backslidez and goez off dominating that I felt like I was a tool for him to secure his position at the top of the leadership since we mortals were the only ones who could harm and defeat alduin. basically all the reasons I thought he was a different dragon went away right after I told him alduin was defeated.o

They dont mind Odahviing being around, who only recently switched sides, but Paarthurnax, who switched sides thousands of years ago, and has been dening his very nature and helping mortals since then, has to die? No. I'll help restore the Blades, but I will not kill Paarthurnax.

eh I see it as the only dragons that were kept alive in past were the ones who pretty much served tiber like the one we can shout serves us. Paar on the other serves no one nor does his goals coincide with ours.

I still don't know why people get so emotionally attached to Pathnx. My feelings on Blade vs Greybeards is neutral. I tend to pick the Blades, because they give me something to do after MQ is over.

I've deleted my post because I wanted to create a whole new topic.
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1362745-can-mages-mimmick-the-dragonborns-soul-absorption/