I've noticed more and more (maybe because of the accessibility of news) that people are, literally, forcing their views (religious, political, w/e) on others. That really bothers me.

Society is on the Steep Part of the Slippery Slope.

Yeah there are some great outdoor places to smoke, but they can be more cramped than indoors, as the non-smokers take advantage of the smokers areas in the back or on the roof. I've been in a few clubs, three-floor places, and they've been deserted inside. lol Everybody is cramped in the enclosed garden so close together it's almost a fire hazard sometimes. Turn around with a smoke hanging from your lips and you'll set some poor girl's hair on fire. lol

Used to be these places didn't exist and you couldn't leave. Also as a smoker, doing a circuit of clubs I usually wake up the next morning with a hand covered in smeared ink stamps.

Me thinks we smokers should rally together and have smokers only zones! Descrimate the other way for a change. We're too quiet. S'gonna be ?7.50 for a packet of twenty soon! Taxing it up the bee-hind without complaint, even though The Man recognises and warns on the very packet that it is addictive - they have no moral objection to copiously taxing the drug. Why aren't there health warnings on excess drinking of carbonated sugar-filled drinks? Or big black warnings on McDonalds packaging? Because you have to do it to excess in order to harm yourself? One cigarette won't make you sterile, give you lung or throat or mouth cancer, or whatever.

Descrimination. Meh. Can just imagine the uproar if bouncers went out to the gardens and on the roofs of clubs shouting, "All non-smokers back inside please! This is a smokers only area!"

Because cigarette companies main goal is to get you hooked, while food and drink are basic necessities of life.

I don't think a Big Mac and a 2 liter of Coke qualify as a neccessity of life. And, its really debatable if fast food can even be called "food" at all based on its lack of nutrition and high fat content. But, it sure does taste good doesn't it?

And my two pennies on the PJ's in public debate: dudes - NO. Cute girls - YES. Also, it depends on what time of day it is. Before 10 am its acceptable, after that its just plain laziness.

Steep part :blink: Gosh, how eloquently understated of you.

I'd go with:
vertical..

freefall..

Wyl.E.Coyote-going-off-the-cliff-after-the-freeway-runs-out..

Whether or not you believe they are healthy is one thing, but soda contains water which you body can utilize, and McDonalds contains fat and calories to keep you from starving. Cigarettes have no beneficial function to your body whatsoever, besides making you feel good.... until you get addicted and the cravings kick in.

Sugar-filled carbonated drinks, and burgers that are about as healthy as tasting gun metal before your head is blown off are necessities of life? Ha heh. Excessive consumption of either of these things is detrimental to your health. I concede cigarettes are far more damaging, but I don't need to see a picture of a real corpse on my packet (not making that up) to know these things could kill me. Then there are social smokers who have one or two cigarettes on the weekend when having a drink, they're probably less likely to have health issues than the gargantuan dude you see struggling to get his body from the door to the counter in McDonalds.

Try seeing a warning label on a Big Mac package of a fat guy on a slab before you tuck into your meal. Heh ha. While paying four-times more than you should be for the burger. ?7 ($11 USD) is ridiculous. If you're gonna ban smoking in public buildings, and then squeeze money from smokers by over-taxing the product, you're about as twisted as the cigarette companies trying to get people addicted. All-out ban and no descrimation. Or complete freedom of choice and no descrimation (health warnings on everything potentially bad for your health). Heh ha. lol :laugh:

People using internet slang outside of the internet. Please, no. Especially that...you guys know what-chan stuff. I just want to wrap my hands around their necks and squeeze until they stop squirming. :flame:

If we mandated putting a warning label on everything sold to Americans that was bad for them, practically everything in the average American's shopping cart would have a warning label on it. It wouldn't do very much good. Hell, I doubt warning labels on cigarettes really have any effect. They pretty much say "If you smoke these, you will kill your body," and yet people still smoke them, even if it's their first time. I'd really be shocked if there was someone out there who bought a pack of cigarettes for the first time, looked at the warning label, and threw them away. Every child that goes to public school is taught how bad cigarettes are for you, yet millions of kids still start smoking as soon as they possibly can, even though it's been drilled into their heads how bad it is for them.

I notice a disturbing amount of complaining and lack of gratitude, generally everywhere I go

case in point: this thread

We almost do that in California, with the "Prop. 65 warnings", only we put the signs in the stores, not the labels on the goods.

The problem with smoking is that it doesn't just affect you; it affects everybody who breathes the air you smoke in. This includes people who are required to work in that air. Other vices are almost as unhealthy, but they don't endanger the health of everyone around you.

You could be right, but it's not the point. S'easy to point at something and say well, that has warnings that don't seem to do much good, even on a product everybody knows is bad for you. Maybe Johnny Q Fatguy needs a reminder that his heart could potentially fail if he keeps it up. Right there on the packet as he eats.

Then the State could ramp up burger prices by grossly taxing them, maybe then Johnny Q Fatguy will opt for something else instead? A two litre bottle of Evian instead of Coke-Cola, and a meal from Salads (reverse R) Us instead of a processed cow chunk with sugar-filled condiments sprayed on it. :blink:


Totally, which is why we had designated smoking areas in pubs and clubs, but now, try telling almost a hundred non-smokers mixing in with a hundred smokers that their health is being damaged. Heh ha. They choose to join the smokers in a designated smoking area now. Only difference is, we can't make a face and say "You mind taking your non-smoking butt back inside so I can enjoy my cigarette without struggling to get it to my face?"

What's wrong with indoor smoking if you ask, "Anybody mind if I light this up?" Before lighting up in a place? If anybody minds, go to the smoking area. Have big signs up, "Please ask before lighting up." lol

Why does it annoy you what other people wear?

I find it annoying when other people play their music on their phones, or on speakers in public. Just buy some earphones damnit.

I don't know where you've seen a fat dude struggling to walk in a McDonalds. It's true that there are obese people who crave the fast food, but it is probably less than the amount of people who smoke 1+ packs a day.


It's all about money. Do you think that the cigarette companies really care about their customers? If they did, then they wouldn't put nicotine into cigarettes and people could smoke more as a casual affair rather than a habit. They care about getting you hooked, and then reeling you in for all you're worth.

Oh and if I saw a warning label with a fat guy on my burger, I would just laugh because that is freaking hilarious. :laugh:

It was common place when I was still in Secondary School (UK here) and talking about how much alchohol they drank last night or how many times they had six with someone and crap like that.

Reminds me of when I was at a restaurant in Naples, I wanted to have a cigarette while I waited for my meal, but there were large No Smoking signs on every wall. I asked the waiter if I could go outside for a smoke, but instead he said to wait and went to ask the only other patron in the place if they minded if I smoked. He returned and said it was fine, then when I lit up he also pulled out a cigarette... and, a few minutes later, the other patron lit up as well. What a civilised way to handle it!

A dead fat guy on your packet would make you laugh? For all you know I smoke five cigarettes a week, and yet must have a packet with a picture of a dead guy who smoked eighty cigarettes a day. Most aren't emphatic warnings, either. Could, can, possible, chances... are the warnings.

I know cigarettes are addictive, but in my view if you're going to ban certain things, do it without descrimating or appearing hypocritical. Say a guy owns a bar, he smokes, most of his punters enjoy a smoke... all out ban descrimates against his choice to enjoy something legally sold in the marketplace, and also takes away his freedom to have a smoking bar. How is that fair? He can't simply erect a sign that declares his joint is smoke central, and that if non-smokers have issues they should probably go drink elsewhere.

If the government acknowledges the health risks, which they do, they'd ban it outright, and as a smoker I can say I'd be happy with that. They won't though, because it's something people choose to do, and they make far too much money taxing it than they could if people bought duty free from abroad. Illegal shipments of cigarettes would be rife. It is cheaper for me to catch a ferry to Amsterdam and buy a few packs of duty free, than it is to buy what I usually smoke a month, taxed here in the UK. lol A'absurd. Hypocritical descrimination. IMO

That's cool. S'how it should be. :thumbsup: :disguise: Heh ha.

He has to hire help to work in that bar. He cannot both accommodate smokers as they please and provide a safe work environment for his employees. He does not have the freedom to cause anybody to work in an unsafe workplace, whether they are doing so voluntarily or not. Nothing hypocritical about it at all.

Prohibition doesn't work for addictive vices, unfortunately. But the fact that a particular vice is not prohibited doesn't give people who enjoy that vice the right to practice it where it endangers other people.

Please do not turn this into an anti-smoking or anti-fast food debate, as everyone gets all bent out of shape and I end up locking threads and handing out warnings. And I really don't feel like doing the paperwork, so don't make the cat cranky(er).

It's disturbing when teenagers think that this generation is the only one where kids drank, did drugs and tried to bone anything that moved. You can bet your dad bragged the first time he got laid, just like his dad did. You can also bet that your parents snuck out to a few parties, or brought booze on a camping trip when they were underage. Your parents (or at least mine) grew up in the 60s/70s. That generation probably did more drugs and got laid more than this generation could hope.

What bothers me is how people just don't want to walk, even short distances. Some people wanted to go to the liquor store and wanted me to drive them because it was too far. It was a 15 minute walk there, 15 minutes back. Maybe I'm just weird, but I walk those distances. I drive my car into town, park it at a friends or some place downtown and walk around and get everything done before I drive back home.

Just because you think something isn't funny, doesn't mean it isn't. I'll laugh at a well-timed "Ya mam" joke as much as I'll laugh at something that's ironic. Ironic "Ya mam" jokes kill me.


A lot of the jokes I love are ridiculously sick. From a moral stand-point that is. And it's not that I take the same moral view as those who make the jokes (and they probably don't mean them either), doesn't stop me laughing though.

I also like rubbish jokes. Like completely abysmal jokes, that are so bad, they're funny. e.g "What do you call a fly with no wings"

"A walk"

It's horrible. But I laughed anyway.

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Wow, didn't realise there was 5 pages, this has probably been covered already

Same here. I can find humor in so many places, even otherwise very serious ones. I find unintended puns, instances of irony, suggestive things, etc. I guess I'm easy to entertain.

Did you guys even read Leydenne's post back at the end of Page 4? Jeez.

Me too, I laugh at everything.... even myself. :facepalm:

I do find Family Guy funny, yet I don't find sitcoms or stand up comedians funny. I guess I have a more childish sense of humor.