[Gemma Archer]

I don't understand why the Doctor couldn't have just gone slightly back in time and land in the ship to pick Adric up...

From a narrative perspective allowing changes like this is problematic - it would be too easy for the Doctor to fix mistakes and otherwise change the outcome of an adventure he's in the middle of (or just finished). I don't imagine many people would be interested in a show where the main character could easily fix most of his mistakes.

Within the series there is some explanation of why this isn't allowed. First, while some things are mutable and may be safely altered and influenced by a Timelord other things are not safe to interfere with. The 9th Doctor episode Father's Day shows us one potential danger to messing around where you shouldn't be. The very ending of The Fires of Pompeii would suggest there is some wiggle room but it's not something to gamble with. Second, it's extremely dangerous for someone's timelines to cross. Different incarnations of a single Time Lord seem to be an exception to this rule, although even here it's something to be avoided even if it isn't such an immediate threat.


In Adric's case the Doctor has left the ship by the time he dies so he doesn't risk running into himself if he doubles back . . . but I'd guess it's still a bad idea for him to be there when his 5-minutes-previous self is in the vicinity. This risk alone may be sufficient to keep the Doctor away (or to prevent the Time Lords from allowing such things, in Father's Day we're told that the Time Lords can police such things). And if that isn't sufficient we could always say that Adric's fate was sealed, and the Doctor knew he couldn't try and change things without damaging time itself.

While something of a convenient excuse to prevent the narrative issues I mentioned at the beginning at least we have some in-world explanation.

[Robert Jr]

In Adric's case the Doctor has left the ship by the time he dies so he doesn't risk running into himself if he doubles back . . . but I'd guess it's still a bad idea for him to be there when his 5-minutes-previous self is in the vicinity. This risk alone may be sufficient to keep the Doctor away (or to prevent the Time Lords from allowing such things, in Father's Day we're told that the Time Lords can police such things).

The timelords are too wrapped up in ritual and dogma to try that any more, they're not the planet locking emotionless peopel they were in The War Games any more. Shame really, those guys were cool.

[Tania Bunic]

In Adric's case the Doctor has left the ship by the time he dies so he doesn't risk running into himself if he doubles back . . . but I'd guess it's still a bad idea for him to be there when his 5-minutes-previous self is in the vicinity. This risk alone may be sufficient to keep the Doctor away (or to prevent the Time Lords from allowing such things, in Father's Day we're told that the Time Lords can police such things). And if that isn't sufficient we could always say that Adric's fate was sealed, and the Doctor knew he couldn't try and change things without damaging time itself.

On one of the episodes the doctor says he can't go back into his timeline, this is why he didn't go and find another way to stop the timewar without killing the Time lords

[joseluis perez]

On one of the episodes the doctor says he can't go back into his timeline, this is why he didn't go and find another way to stop the timewar without killing the Time lords

He's done it lots of times before. He lies really, the same way he lies about his age. He just does things when he wants, or when he thinks the effect won't be that bad.

[Fanny Rouyé]

Anyway, who's up for a "The Four Doctors" movie (or perhaps for once they can come up with a more original title) with eight, nine, ten, and eleven? I loved all the previous episodes where they met each other.

[Jessica Raven]

Anyway, who's up for a "The Four Doctors" movie (or perhaps for once they can come up with a more original title) with eight, nine, ten, and eleven? I loved all the previous episodes where they met each other.

Seven Six and Five are still in good nick, and Four would look the same if he lost some weight and dyed his hair.


The Time Crash one was a bit crap, being so short and fourth wall breaking ("You were my doctor!" How exactly?)


The Five Doctors was ok but very hammy, and lacking a proper Hartnell or Baker.

The Three Doctors was very good, shame Hartnell was not well enough to really participate then, but having Two and Three argue and play off each other was really hilarious, especially where Two keeps aggravating Omega into nearly killing him and Three keeps telling him not to speak. It shows how embarrassed the Doctor gets with what he used to be like.

[Jennifer Rose]

Anyway, who's up for a "The Four Doctors" movie (or perhaps for once they can come up with a more original title) with eight, nine, ten, and eleven? I loved all the previous episodes where they met each other.

If Tom Baker did what turns-the-page said but 6 and 7 were...well...bad and we only saw 8 in the movie, seeing 9 and 10 again would be good; 9 should of had another season before 10.

[Stacyia]

If Tom Baker did what turns-the-page said but 6 and 7 were...well...bad and we only saw 8 in the movie, seeing 9 and 10 again would be good; 9 should of had another season before 10.

:o Seven was the best! All mystery and conniving intellect. There's something of him in Matt Smith. Two, Three and Seven combined in him.

[jessica Villacis]

:o Seven was the best! All mystery and conniving intellect. There's something of him in Matt Smith. Two, Three and Seven combined in him.

meh 7 was ok :snoring:
Peter Davidson is better though, he liked cricket :hehe:

[Epul Kedah]

meh 7 was ok :snoring:
Peter Davidson is better though, he liked cricket :hehe:

Davison was a bit OTT for me, very breathless and fast. Still, he was better than Tennant, who seemed to think that acting like a hyperactive toddler and generally complaining was how you act eccentric. I really hated that guy.

[courtnay]

Davison was a bit OTT for me, very breathless and fast. Still, he was better than Tennant, who seemed to think that acting like a hyperactive toddler and generally complaining was how you act eccentric. I really hated that guy.

You hated Davy Tennant!!! :slap:
He was good, I'm goin to agree with you that he was a bit hyper and eccentric but he had some really good moments as well. Matt Smith seems to be doing pretty good I just hope the flawless series so far won't get ruined.

[Cassie Boyle]

:o
You hated Davy Tennant!!! :slap:
He was good, I'm goin to agree with you that he was a bit hyper and eccentric but he had some really good moments as well. Matt Smith seems to be doing pretty good I just hope the flawless series so far won't get ruined.

As far as I'm concerned, Tennant's time was an abberation and Smith was a restoration from as soon os the new retro credits rolled. The RTD hyperbole is gone, the Daleks are finally being given a stable population, a Doctor with childish fascination coupled with old-man self inportance, and a face that says weird alien more than hormonal-slashfic. Its like Moffat has channelled all of my hates from the past four years and built exactly what I wanted. He truly knows how the old fans think. Well, some of us at least.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYVS6O2Gy-g, that's how you do a multi-doctor story, with tension and humour.

[Luis Longoria]

The Time Crash one was a bit crap, being so short and fourth wall breaking ("You were my doctor!" How exactly?)

What?! The Time Crash was awesome! It was typical time-paradoxy stuff, but I thought it was well enough done and funny.

Isn't Tom Baker in his eighties or nineties or something? I thought he was too old to act now. (Or at least too old to play the Doctor)

Davison was a bit OTT for me, very breathless and fast. Still, he was better than Tennant, who seemed to think that acting like a hyperactive toddler and generally complaining was how you act eccentric. I really hated that guy.

I know what you mean, but, I mean, he was still decent. He certainly wasn't unbearable to watch.

By the way, what do you mean by "retro credits"? How are these new credits at all a return to the classic series?

[roxanna matoorah]

What?! The Time Crash was awesome! It was typical time-paradoxy stuff, but I thought it was well enough done and funny.

Isn't Tom Baker in his eighties or nineties or something? I thought he was too old to act now. (Or at least too old to play the Doctor)

He's not that old!

He's 76, plenty young enough for a cameo. If you've seen him recently, he's still quite youngish looking. A bit of weight loss and hair dye and he'd look no worse than Davison did.

[Alex [AK]]

we only saw 8 in the movie,

Wouldn't that be an argument to bring him back? I don't think we saw enough of what he could've been as the Doctor.

[Andrea P]

By the way, what do you mean by "retro credits"? How are these new credits at all a return to the classic series?

Its wholly subjective audio I suppose, but the darker opening put me in mind of the late eighties stuff, and the music reminded me of the trial of a timelord arc theme.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4_wSxMBNk4

[josh evans]

Does anyone else think there will be a tomb of the Cybermen type episode in the new series? I remember on one of the previews it showed cybermen with missing limbs walking (or limping ) towards the doctor and Amy. Also one clip showed Amy holding a cyberman arm.

[Portions]

Does anyone else think there will be a tomb of the Cybermen type episode in the new series? I remember on one of the previews it showed cybermen with missing limbs walking (or limping ) towards the doctor and Amy. Also one clip showed Amy holding a cyberman arm.

What type of cyberman?

[RAww DInsaww]

What type of cyberman?

limping cyberman with one arm in what seems to be a cavern or tomb inbetweeen 0:20 and 0:30, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3berYXUrSnw

[Anthony Rand]

limping cyberman with one arm in what seems to be a cavern or tomb inbetweeen 0:20 and 0:30, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3berYXUrSnw

Oh, a new one then. I thought they were Ok, with their electric hands and scary aspect, but I think they're just silly stompy robots compared with the old melancholy suited men with no planet.

Looks like the Ice warriors are back in next episode, from the teaser.

[Hope Greenhaw]

Oh, a new one then. I thought they were Ok, with their electric hands and scary aspect, but I think they're just silly stompy robots compared with the old melancholy suited men with no planet.

Looks like the Ice warriors are back in next episode, from the teaser.

You mean the Siluriams <_<
They're fish people not ice people

[Sweet Blighty]

You mean the Siluriams <_<
They're fish people not ice people

Even better then!


It was hard to see without the masks, but I guess the green threw me off. I did think they were a bit thin.....


My brother watched the last episode before me, he said he thought they were Ice Warriors. He shall have to be punished by being made to watch The Seeds off Death.


Hehe, Silurian Avatar.

[luis dejesus]

Even better then!


It was hard to see without the masks, but I guess the green threw me off. I did think they were a bit thin.....


My brother watched the last episode before me, he said he thought they were Ice Warriors. He shall have to be punished by being made to watch The Seeds off Death.

Not the Seeds off Death!!!
The original Silurians looked better

[Curveballs On Phoenix]

Not the Seeds off Death!!!
The original Silurians looked better

With the trailer, it looked like a Klingon or something with those ridges. Maybe they're a side-species?

[Tom Flanagan]

Dr. Who to me is Tom Baker

It's when I watched it often. Haven't really watched in a while and I'm sure there's been some good doctors....but when I hear Dr Who I think Tom Baker, period.