Dwarves! : V - Skyrim

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:47 pm

Just punched out 2 high elves.. this is a touchy topic. every thing they put in just about confirms they wer short i mean the chairs and tables u see in the ruins

True. Although It's not like Wood Elves weren't short in Oblivion. Not all Elves in TES seem to be tall.

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:39 pm

I want the stereotypical LOTR style dwarves! That would be as fun as turds

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:39 pm

A Dwemer in TES VI would probably look something like this:

[img]http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/233/3/d/Steampunk_dwarf_by_Mike_Sass.jpg[/img]

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:05 pm

A list of ways in which TES Dwarves are like DnD/LoTR Dwarves:

1) They lived underground.

er... that's it.

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:56 am

A list of ways in which TES Dwarves are like DnD/LoTR Dwarves:

1) They lived underground.

er... that's it.

Pretty much.

A token by which the same thing could be said about The Falmer.

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:43 pm

You really can't think of an excuse to bring them back?

"Thirty dwarves were doing research in a realm of Oblivion when the tools were used and the heart was pierced. Those thirty dwarves returned to find their people vanished, and their Falmer slaves running amok. They sealed themselves in one of their deepest cities to protect themselves from the Falmer, and in the thousands of years since have grown to a sizable population. Also, they are shorter now because thousands of years and a bottlenecked population can do that."

Boom. Dwarves.

As far as Yagrum knew he was the only one. He searched for a long time, and not only on Tamriel.
Vivec said he could detect no trace of them in any world.

Of course, something like you say might very well be done, if the people in charge find it interesting enough.
Im just saying that it would be a retcon.
Myself I am of the opinion that the Dwemer are better left gone. Any attempt to bring them back, no matter how well done will inevitably ruin their mystery, their specialness, because it will lock them in one role, instead of the myriad of fancyful imaginings and speculations we may have.

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:47 am

Actually I missed out beards. Though they looked like babylonians not gimli santa style.

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:33 pm

Actually I missed out beards. Though they looked like babylonians not gimli santa style.

Ah you nailed that for me.....I was scratching my head since morrowind what the heck they reminded me of from our own history. This fits well.

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:25 pm

Actually I missed out beards. Though they looked like babylonians not gimli santa style.

Actually, yes. That's probably the best comparison. They were very definitely styled that way.

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:42 pm

A Dwemer in TES VI would probably look something like this:

[img]http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/233/3/d/Steampunk_dwarf_by_Mike_Sass.jpg[/img]

No....just no.. rofl no, just gods no. you get 30 points for your methods

» Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:14 am

Yeah, they sort of look like they came from ancient Mesopotamia somewhere, e.g. these Assyrians from Wikipedia. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2e/PLATE2AX.jpg

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:09 am

Well one Dwemer did survive you see him in Morrowind. So it is possible that more could of survived. Would be interesting to find the odd one or two still walking around the world. Would make for a awesome quest finding one of the last Dwemers.

Btw this is what they look like: [img]http://images.uesp.net/c/c0/TR_Creature_RadacStungnthumz.jpg[/img]

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:09 pm

Bethesda has erased the Gimli-like dwarves from the lore by introducing them, against all known legends of mankind, as high-technological giants, the cultural peak of Tamriel's civilization before the fall into the Dark Eras (with the fourth we're are busy with right now).

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:22 pm

They are extinct and cannot come back.

Are we sure about this? I read that one second they were on this planet, next second they were all gone.

I think it's kind of strange that an entire race/faction dies all over the planet at the same time. I'm more inclined to belief that they teleported - or somehow transferred - to another planet, another reality, or a different plane of existence. Their technology certainly was able to support that - since we don't know exactly what they were working on in a secret place somewhere.

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:10 pm

Once again : "(That's what happened to the Dwarves, by the way: their minds froze to death by thinking one thing over and over until poof, gone in a belch of a mountain.)"

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/definitive-guide-dwemer

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:13 pm

well..... Thats dumb

No, it is not. Why is unique=dumb?

» Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:48 am

Are we sure about this? I read that one second they were on this planet, next second they were all gone.

I think it's kind of strange that an entire race/faction dies all over the planet at the same time. I'm more inclined to belief that they teleported - or somehow transferred - to another planet, another reality, or a different plane of existence. Their technology certainly was able to support that - since we don't know exactly what they were working on in a secret place somewhere.

Yeah were sure.
Dev's have confirmed they became one with Numidium.
http://www.imperial-library.info/content/final-report-trebonius.

As far as Im aware, this is a compilation of in-game clues together with some out-game dev quotes spun together in an in-game voice to explain what happened.
This is the one that was confirmed to be more or less what happened, though I am unable to find that specific quote at the moment, I know it still exists as Ive seen other people post it.

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:21 pm

No....just no.. rofl no, just gods no. you get 30 points for your methods

At no point did I say that would be a GOOD thing. I'm just saying on the past form of redesigns from Skyrim, that'd likely be where they'd end up going. :wink:

» Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:08 am

Not all the Dwemer are gone. I could tell you exactly where to find one.

I was sure someone would let the cat out of the bag. There are others, but in a ghostly form.

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:38 pm

Just punched out 2 high elves.. this is a touchy topic. every thing they put in just about confirms they wer short i mean the chairs and tables u see in the ruins

Do some research. They weren't shorter than any of the other races. Reading up on the TES lore would tell you that. As a matter of fact, I thought they where TALLER than most races?

» Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:12 am

Yeah were sure.
Dev's have confirmed they became one with Numidium.
http://www.imperial-library.info/content/final-report-trebonius.

As far as Im aware, this is a compilation of in-game clues together with some out-game dev quotes spun together in an in-game voice to explain what happened.
This is the one that was confirmed to be more or less what happened, though I am unable to find that specific quote at the moment, I know it still exists as Ive seen other people post it.

You have to make it clear, though, that ISN'T an in-game explanation. If Bethesda chose to ignore it as canon they could, easily. For while it is the most logical explanation it is not officially part of canon until it appears in-game.

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:43 pm

I was sure someone would let the cat out of the bag. There are others, but in a ghostly form.

And one living one, too.

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:38 pm

You have to make it clear, though, that ISN'T an in-game explanation. If Bethesda chose to ignore it as canon they could, easily. For while it is the most logical explanation it is not officially part of canon until it appears in-game.

It is canon. Bethesda confirmed it. Whether or not you want to accept it doesn't matter, thats up to you.

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:54 pm

The Dwemer became the Golden skin of the Numidium. End of discussion...

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:55 am

I take it you guys haven't read some of the Books on the Dwemer in Skyrim insinuating that not all Dwemer went Poof at the same time? wish I could remember the title for you.