Exclusive Download On a Multiplatform Game : V - Skyrim

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:55 pm

I just wanted a discussion on it, but all I got was. "life's not fair, get over it" or Bethseda is a business and it will do want it wants to make a profit. Surprise, I know all that. I had expected at least some support in the idea that we all play the same game. By the way, the fact that X-Box player pay additional fees is not my problem, they chose to use that system, so svck it up.

and ps3 players chose a system knowing full well that they'd get the shaft for some dlc, so GTFO.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:45 am

I just wanted a discussion on it, but all I got was. "life's not fair, get over it" or Bethseda is a business and it will do want it wants to make a profit. Surprise, I know all that. I had expected at least some support in the idea that we all play the same game. By the way, the fact that X-Box player pay additional fees is not my problem, they chose to use that system, so svck it up.

Well, use today as a leanring curve.

The point was that you didn't make your case very well. People have responded to what you said. And when they did, you didn't particularly clarify your point further, or steer the discussion in any way to what you wanted to talk about.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:35 pm

I just wanted a discussion on it, but all I got was. "life's not fair, get over it" or Bethseda is a business and it will do want it wants to make a profit. Surprise, I know all that. I had expected at least some support in the idea that we all play the same game. By the way, the fact that X-Box player pay additional fees is not my problem, they chose to use that system, so svck it up.

Did you really just yell the xbox players to svck it up? Really? During a discussion you started about complaining to beth? I find that hilarious.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:13 am

Pay 50 bucks a year to play a game with friends, not skyrim, but ANY multiplayer game. That gives Microsoft money, and a lot of it, using that money they buy certain exclusives, for a limited time. Why? Because otherwise people would gravitate to other systems where they could get FREE multiplayer. Anybody [censored]ing about alienation, why should only XBox users have to pay for online play? I'd say we're alienated, if anything.

So why aren't console players gravitating to other systems if Live is that expensive? Why throw good money after bad?

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:45 pm

I just wanted a discussion on it, but all I got was. "life's not fair, get over it" or Bethseda is a business and it will do want it wants to make a profit. Surprise, I know all that. I had expected at least some support in the idea that we all play the same game. By the way, the fact that X-Box player pay additional fees is not my problem, they chose to use that system, so svck it up.

How does the fact that we all play Skyrim albeit on different platforms necessarily lead to Beth having the duty to ship additional content simultaneously on all platforms?

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:56 pm

and ps3 players chose a system knowing full well that they'd get the shaft for some dlc, so GTFO.

No need to be rude. You can make your point without saying GTFO. These threads are just usually nice and I just don't want to see it change.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:25 am

Considering that this is a multiple platform game (PS3, PC, & X-Box) and regardless of platform all of us have paid about the same amount for purchasing this game. Why is there exclusive download content? Even if its just for a month, it is totally unfair. I have many games from Bethseda, but I am seriously considering avoiding their products if this policy continues.

First of all its only 30days and second thats how buisness works today.You pay an extra sum to get special treatment.Sony does it and others do it aswell.I dont see anything wrong with it.I would be really mad if it was on disc dlc,like capcom does these days.I know for those who cant wait 30days it seems unfair but i think they will find something else to keep them ocupied untill the DLC becomes available to them.
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» Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:44 pm

It's the world of business, not the "world of satisfying our customers", they honestly don't care. Bethesda might make the content that we ask for, but that's not their main priority. Microsoft offered to pay them for an exclusive and Bethesda jumped right on it. If you owned a company and another company offered you cash for exclusive content, you would do it too.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:51 am

I feel that getting the DLC a few weeks earlier makes up a tiny bit for the fact that I don't have a gaming PC at the moment (so no mods, no unofficial patch, stuck on vanilla...).

On the other hand, I realize that's a totally selfish way to look at it. :devil:

Honestly I think it stinks that other platforms - especially the PS3 users!! - have to wait for it. Maybe you could just try to think of it as a continuation of the testing process. I'm sure that the current beta testing isn't going to result in fixes for 100% of any bugs/glitches. So you will benefit from the extra 30 days worth of beta testing. :obliviongate:

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:53 pm

Wow, I guess I'm old fashioned. In think a business exists because of it's customer base and needs to actually be fair to its customers. That fact that everyone simply accepts that this is no longer the case is more a commentary on the consumer than the business

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:48 am

So why aren't console players gravitating to other systems if Live is that expensive? Why throw good money after bad?

People don't change because the world is in an instant gratification state of mind, pay 50 dollars and generally get stuff first, or pay bothing and have to wait a while.
I use all three systems, they all have their positive and negative aspects.
360: 50$ a year for online play, but they get timed exclusives.
Ps3: free online, but has to wait.
PC: free online play, console commands and mods for most games, but they get a plethora of hackers online and have to wait.
It balances out it in the end.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:40 pm

Wow, I guess I'm old fashioned. In think a business exists because of it's customer base and needs to actually be fair to its customers. That fact that everyone simply accepts that this is no longer the case is more a commentary on the consumer than the business

If it wasn't releasing the content at all to PC users, then you might have a point.
But they're not. So you don't. What's going on here isn't all that different to people in Europe getting games released at a different time to those in the States.

Now you're trying to basically say people here are disagreeing with you because they're stupid, so you're learning curve seems to have halted.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:05 am

Wow, I guess I'm old fashioned. In think a business exists because of it's customer base and needs to actually be fair to its customers. That fact that everyone simply accepts that this is no longer the case is more a commentary on the consumer than the business

But that's just it. I don't see it as "unfair" and I'm at the losing end of that bargain, so to speak. I think you might be taking this whole issue personally and I see no reason for it. Sure, you can decide to look at it and say "We the PS3/PC gamers got screwed". Why not look at it and joyously say "Look, Xbox 360 gamers got lucky this time around!"?

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:05 pm

I just wanted a discussion on it, but all I got was. "life's not fair, get over it" or Bethseda is a business and it will do want it wants to make a profit. Surprise, I know all that. I had expected at least some support in the idea that we all play the same game. By the way, the fact that X-Box player pay additional fees is not my problem, they chose to use that system, so svck it up.

I'm sorry OP, But you're obviously a lost cause. None of your arguments have any weight behind them, yet you insist on replying all the same. People have pointed reasons out to you on multiple occasions as to why Xbox is getting the DLC first, and we know that you've read them, because you've quoted us on them, Yet you still refuse to listen.

Lets be honest here, you wouldn't be complaining at all if the ps3 was to get the DLC first and to be frank, this entire thread is a waste of time.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:46 pm

** AHEM **

OP, has Bethesda failed to abide by any agreement made with you in some fashion? Did you have an agreement with them that all multi-platform products would be available at the same time for all platforms?

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:12 pm

But that's just it. I don't see it as "unfair" and I'm at the losing end of that bargain, so to speak. I think you might be taking this whole issue personally and I see no reason for it. Sure, you can decide to look at it and say "we the PS3/PC gamers got screwed". Why not look at it and joyously say "Look, Xbox 360 gamers got lucky this time around!"?

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:51 am

I wouldn't worry about it too much. Just look at it in this way; the version that will come out for the XBOX one month early will probably be filled with bugs, seeing that this is a Bethesda DLC. We PC and PS3 players will be getting a much more polished version, as they have now had the opportunity to point out most of the bugs.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:20 pm

Wow, I guess I'm old fashioned. In think a business exists because of it's customer base and needs to actually be fair to its customers. That fact that everyone simply accepts that this is no longer the case is more a commentary on the consumer than the business

Sorry to be off-topic, but the first thing that popped into my mind when I read your post is the now-common practice of "release buggy game now, patch the hell out of game later". That drives me crazy. And it seems like that practice has a ton of defenders too (I will never understand it). :blink:

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:08 pm

I felt wronged by beth not saying the beta us US exclusive for a while but then I just got over it. I enjoy skyrim and will not let things get me down from enjoying it even more.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:47 pm

Sorry to be off-topic, but the first thing that popped into my mind when I read your post is the now-common practice of "release buggy game now, patch the hell out of game later". That drives me crazy. And it seems like that practice has a ton of defenders too (I will never understand it). :blink:

Yes i hate that.Remember the time when consoles had no internet connection?..The games had to be alot more polished. :down:

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:27 pm

It's irritating, I know, but I would do the same in this situation. Money makes the world go round.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:57 pm

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» Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:23 pm

Its not really discussed, the xbox players just come in here and say "stop complaining, stop being a baby, just wait 30 its no big deal"
and ps3 and pc gamers are here wondering how we got screwed.

how did you get "screwed" over something as light as DLC? I mean, its not like they are abducting your skyrim disc that you paid for.
Chill 30 days longer and you can have it for the rest of your life. You just have more time to figure out where $20 is gonna come from.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:23 am

I felt wronged by beth not saying the beta us US exclusive for a while but then I just got over it. I enjoy skyrim and will not let things get me down from enjoying it even more.

I can vouch for this. A few of us were annoyed about it, but at the end of the day it doesnt change anything.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:20 pm

You can always think about it in the sense that you will make a more informed purchase than xbox owners