Did Bethesda allot the number of achievements or some lazy half-assed reason? You could more achievements and still have the total be 1000. So does this mean Bethesda will restrict Obsidian in the future when it comes to DLC? Can't have more than 5 achivements when the total is still 100? Or is it Microsofts fault?


The game points are not used as currency one slight bit. The points are just points for completion and nothing more.

Doesn't the mere presence of the weapon achievements just make it like a laundry list of "I guess I gotta get all my Unarmed kills now"? I remember playing Borderlands and spending a lot of boring time after I'd finished the game just wandering around killin stuff to pat myself on the back for senselessly killing a bunch of folks just cause I needed 200 more kills with my rocker launcher.

Can you elaborate on that a little bit? This is the first I've heard they can be used as a currency.

Who cares honestly? Play the game because you want to play it, I'd rather the development team spend time polishing & making the game better then thinking up ridiculous achievements. :tops:

That achievement might be for getting kicked out from all the casinos after winning too much.

I don't know. Sometimes the achievements give more of a replayability factor. That's just me though. Doesn't matter, I'll just be fully exploring the Mojave Wasteland anyway in New Vegas.

If you just focus on one group of weapons at a time it does get boring. I plan on making a few different characters (eventually) with different play styles and weapons styles (for example maybe a tough bruiser, a sneaky ninja, a charismatic gunman, a smart energy guy, etc.), and switching between them so i don't get bored with one weapon group. And plus 10,000 points of damage isn't that much. If you were using a hunting rifle that deals 20 damage, against 3 raiders, that would be like 250 damage dealt at the end of that battle. Ands there much more enemies you'll have to kill by the end of the game.\

Oh, and theres going to be so many different kinds of weapons within each weapons group, by the time you get to testing and using all the normal weapons, modded weapons, and custom weapons you'll probably get the achivements without thinking about it,

I thought the achievements were alright but they have no origionality. Most of them really screamed "COPIED GEARS OF WAR" to me. They need to have like
"Glass this!"--- Kill a wanamingo using the orbital laser satelite. Reference to halo, using a laser to kill an alien.
"Ha thats definetly copy right infringment"---- When an opponent in knocked down on the ground use melee to curb stomp him.
"If This is cannon somebodys gonna b mad"---- Find the colony of Mother Ship zeta alien survivors.
"Fawkes it!"---- Find Fawkes on his journey through New Vegas

My apologies, I could've sworn Gamerpoints = Microsoft Points. I don't have an Xbox 360 and got this assumption from seeing some friends' Gamerpoints and assuming those were Microsoft Points.

And it's Microsoft points. Bethesda and Obsidian don't make the rules for the number of achievements they can have, Microsoft does. I stated this earlier as did Josh. The maximum number that ONE game may have on the 360 is 50 achievements. The Orange Box was an excemption because it was a bundle of five games rather than just one, but was still restricted to 99 achievements to ensure that there wouldn't be an inflation in Gamerscores, because again, some people really do give a damn about how many achievement points or trophies they have. Bethesda will not restrict DLCs unless it conflicts with one of their ideas (like Josh said before that they wanted to do something in Arizona but Bethesda threw up some red flags because they had some plans for the area), but the number of achievements and points will have to comply with Microsoft's rules, or Microsoft will not allow the game to be released on their console.

Is hardcoe mode still separated from the difficulty level? I mean we'll be able to play on hardcoe mode/Easy play won't we? I'm only asking because I just assumed there would be a hardcoe mode/Very Hard play achievement as well for some reason.

Yes hardcoe mode and difficulty are still separate. It doesn't mean that hardcoe/Easy will be easy though.

Actually, there's an achievement for that. It's called http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/fallout-new-vegas/achievement/43062-The-Courier-Who-Broke-the-Bank.html.

Gamerscore is completely seperated from Microsoft Points which are used to purchase things on XBOX Live Marketplace.

Just be glad there isn't a 'kill 2199 people' achievement. Something like that is very vulnerable to glitches.

Grindy Achievements > Glitched and unobtainable Achievements every single time.

I'm so glad these are nothing like the Alpha Protocol achievements. :cheat:

Oh good.. that's exactly what I want.... .I'm really looking forward to sleeping, eating, ammo weight, blah blah... I just don't want it to take 500 rounds into somebodies head just to bring them down. I don't care how tough somethings skull is.. it's just so incredibly un-fun and unrealistic to just stand there blasting something in the head.

"Arizona Killer" looks like we'll be visiting arizona.

Maybe its hinting at the Hanged Man/Burned Man?

It might just be wishful thinking on my part though. :tops:

I just hope messing with the regular difficulty doesn't glitch out the hardcoe achievement, that would svck.

Unless the glitch was a Highwayman falling from the sky.

I particularly like the ones involving raking up over 10,000 dmg points with each weapon type. Should be fun... They seem a little harder than the ones on F3 which is definitely a good thing.

Agreed. I think I will go hardcoe on my first playthroguh.

I still fail to see the importance of achievements after all this time. Who cares? What's the point of it? I mean, I like that the game can recognize what you do and give you a little title for it (Alpha Protocol did this excellently) but what is with the obsession of showing it off online?

I don't understand.

Hey, Hey, Hey, shut up. Do you have ANY idea how hard it is to take the G.O.A.T in F3? It was HARD to take man, I mean, it was the second thing you do in the game, and you have to scroll up and down between four options. FOUR. :cryvaultboy:

There pathetic.

I have to say, i agree with this.
I buy games for personal enjoyment,i spend my money wisely when getting games.
I dont give a monkey's backside about gamer score etc....some people do ( each to thier own i suppose ),but i dont,i dont waste money on games to add to a game score.
In my opinion thats what games are not about.I've played so many playthroughs in fallout & oblivion i've lost count.I had a freind who had fallout 3,he got all the achievements then traded the game in,whats the point in that....he's missed out the point of the game in my view,just seems ridiculous.There is still achievements i have'nt got for fallout 3,& like i've said i've lost count on how many playthroughs i've done.I enjoy exploring,surviving,scavanging,fighting,reading about the history of the story etc....not running from one place to another just to get numbers added to more meaningless numbers.....i know people who have bought some shocking games ,just to get scores out of them,more money than sense in my view.

Anyway just my view

What's all this fuss about achievements? It's not like they have an impact on anything (or is it?).