I think my biggest gripe with Oblivion, looking back, is how far into the uncanny valley all it's NPCs are. At least that was fixed in Fallout 3, and looks to be the same improvement in Skyrim. I always felt a bit like I was talking to Mr Data in Oblivion.

The only glitch that affected me in FNV was the Supermutants shooting at me with dead accuracy despite facing the wrong way, the tracer passing through their bodies backwards through the barrel like in a Bugs Bunny cartoon. That nearly made me throw my controller at the screen. Because that really should have been weeded out in preliminary testing.


Otherwise, It was a much better game. But I think despite the story making more sense, I felt more emotional connection with the one in Fallout 3. Maybe it's just the life I've led that struck a chord, but I really wanted to find out why my dad had abandoned me, and I was pissed off when he died. The scientific plot made little sense, but the emotional story was a classic for me. Being alone and making friends and allies, abandonment, betrayal, banishment. It was the only Fallout game that made me feel any loyalty or care for the people in the thick of things. It makes me want to play around in that world more, while FNV I stopped playing when the credits rolled. The atmosphere was just less poetic.

FNV was really a militarist's game, you slaughter the little people by the hundred, because all they are is soldiers.

I think Fallout 3 was very much in the vein of Fallout 1, while FNV was a follower of Fallout 2. I do wonder if Bethesda would have been happier if they'd just made a Mad Max videogame, though.

Oblivion. You know, before i came here i thought Oblivion was the pinnacle of RPG's this gen. I thought it was great. The amount of bashing Oblivion gets is unbelievable. It's a fantastic game imo with two great DLC's, though i admit some of it's criticism is justified, just blown out of proportion.

QFT.


1. Counter-Strike: Condition Zero. I enjoy playing single player, alone, by myself, without bots on my team, and seeing how far I can go, and how I well I can do. Mid 60s metacritic, and laughed at by everyone in the HL community.

2. Unreal Tournament: 3. Again, I like playing single-player, just a good masher with a few good maps, forgettable AI, but a very fun experience for thoughtless slaughter.

3. Thief: Deadly Shadows. It received an 85 metascore, but is widely (and accurately) described as vastly inferior to its predecessors. I still enjoyed it greatly, and it produced my 2nd favorite Thief level ever (Overlook Manse), and great voice acting and music as usual. I feel that this has the "Oblivion to Morrowind" effect, but I still loved it (more than I love Oblivion, too).


Other thoughts: I loved Jedi Academy even though it was by no means Jedi Knight; I loved Opposing Force (but not Blue Shift, :facepalm: ) even though it was by no means Half-Life; I liked (not loved) Command And Conquer 3, although it was certainly not Tiberian Sun.

Duke Nukem Forever :wub: .

This.

Red Orchestra 2 - I consider it the best FPS game of the last 5 years, yet i've heard so much hate and criticism from other players.

Shouldn't a PS3 version have theoretically sold much better than the 360 and PC versions? I mean, again... it's a JRPG.

Naughty Bear. You people can say what you like, but I've fallen head over heels for this game >_>

Honestly I think that Oblivion will get much more flak here and in the gaming community as a whole for the flaws that seem so glaring today. However what is more impressive than all those flaws is the fact that we are recognizing them at all. The reason the issues with Oblivion seems so much worse now is because we ARE STILL PLAYING THE GAME 5 years after its initial release. If the game had died and the modding community did not exist Oblivion would be remembered for those 2-3 glorious years when it was the pinnacle of RPG'ness. Its not that we are being effected by the nostalgia factor its just that having seen what games can now do we expect more, despite the game being build using resources that are at least 5 years old if not older considering it started development in the original Xbox days.


On that note some games I've like that others have not.........

Two World II
Dante's Inferno
Warhammer II seems to get a lot of negative feedback but I love it.
Dynasty Warriors
MarvelUltimateAlliance

Edit: Forgot to mention
Brutal Legend


probably many others from the PS2 days because I never paid attention to reviews or forums before the next gen consoles and becoming a PC gamer two years ago.

I loved them both as well!

Whoah, there's a sequel to King of the Monsters 2? Well now you've got me interested, I need to track this down.

Edit: Ah looks like it is more like KotM1. FFA battlin instead of side scrollin beatem up. KotM1 was pretty good though too.



Yeah I don't understand the hate for this one. There's pretty much no bugs anymore. The storyline and choices are miles ahead of FO3 IMO. Feels like there's more to do too.



My contribution is Prey 1. This is the game that did portals before Portal. Was a fun run n gun type shooter. The ship atmosphere was amazing. The storyline and voice acting...could use work. But the rest of it was a top notch shooter.

Gonna second KotOR II. Really wish the devs could have been given the time they needed. I loved the direction the story was heading, but it looked like they had to rush everything together near the end due to time constraints. Also, they needed to make the intro level not so frustratingly long.


I'd like to say Terranigma too, but that doesn't fit the criteria. Everyone who actually plays it knows it's amazing. Too bad it's so difficult to get ahold of an english version.(You'll need a PAL SNES to play it too)

The Guild 2. One of the most underrated games I have ever played, especially in dynasty mode.

Start with just one person. You then need to get them married, have children, raise those children, etc. while managing your medieval business, competing with other dynasties (to the point of outright feuds), dabbling in local politics, and the ever fun justice system. Sadly, the game was released in a buggy state,and didn't do too well with the critics.

To give an example of how epic this game can be, I was being harassed by a high-ranking noble in one town, who was sort of a robber-baron. He was responsible for a lot of the kidnappings, and waylaying on trading caravans that were going through. The town constantly tried bringing him to justice, but his high-rank gave him extra leniency in trial, to the point where he was being acquitted every time (which means the accuser has to pay the court fees). One year, he wises up to this, and kidnaps the town judge.

He holds her captive. For roughly 15 years. This grinds the whole system to a halt, as for whatever reason, the town can't elect a new judge. Eventually the accuser dies of old age, and the judge is released. Because the accuser isn't around to present her case, once again the man is acquitted. Sort of. The entire time, I had spies following him, and was collecting evidence against him (assaults, kidnappings, a few murders). As soon as that case was dismissed, I had one of my family members run into the town hall and press charges. Come trial day, he was whining as I laid out case after case against him, until the judge finally told me to stop. He was executed shortly after, which included a very satisfying march to the town square where he was beheaded :chaos:

It's on Steam, so check it out. There's also a great http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTYXhqwGPTU on youtube that gives a great view of the game.

I completely agree with this, it's still my favourite WW2 game series.

Both of the Mercenaries games, though the first one is recognized as a good game a lot more then the second one. I personally loved them both.

These. Im sad its not getting a sequal. I wanted to know more about G22. (especially sis and albatross)
Its one of my favorite rpgs. Steven heck was awesome, I liked his insanity.


Hate is understandable. I jsut hate it when people blaem obsidian for it.


You had me at fable, then lost me at the sequals. I love fable (tlc) favorite game still.


This, it forced me indoors a bit too much. But overall I liked it. original and fun, still cant do the time trials without feeling like snapping my controller though


I thought FNV was brilliant, much better than fallout 3. Its sad its an "expansion" when CoD is considered a new game. New game imo.

People bothc about bugs, forget fallout 3. Let me remind them, megaton citizens still killing themselves/vanishing, check. Walter still vanishing, check. Ants nest causeing save corruption ? Check.


This, great atmosphere, amazing game.


I agree completely. But I thought people thought honest hearts was the worst ? I loved all the dlc, way I saw it was

Dead money > opperation anchorage
honest hearts > point lookout
old world blues > mothership zeta
Lonesome road > The pitt

The writing in FNV was better, the dlc was amazing all linked up yet seperate, it was just great.
Atmosphere was great, I feel stressed and creeped out in the dlc. My only real issues with dead money was I cant go back.

I would have liked more imact on the world though, like meeting dog/god as a random encounter if he lived and dean getting a job in the tops. In HH maybe have follows chalk as a companion in the main game. I jsut wanted more impact on the main game after the dlc.


Also Alan wake, apparently didnt sell to great. I dont understand why.
Overlord very fun game, the sequal was terrible though.

True. Reading these forums you'd think that Oblivion and FO3 were the worst games ever created; the haters are certainly very vocal and probably run contrary to the overall reception; but on the basis of the amount of flak they're still getting even today, those two, I guess.

I loved Dragon Age 2 as well. Whether it was just that I wanted a sequel so badly after DAO I'm not sure. But I genuinely don't agree with a lot of the criticism it gets. I loved the characters much more than in DAO (with the exception of Alasdair) and thought it had more of a genuine feel to it because there was a lot of 'everyday' quests in it that didn't involve the world ending. Maybe I'm just too easily pleased. :confused:

I think for that same reason I enjoyed the Fable sequels too. It's probably making me seem like such a 'girlie gamer' but I'm not all about the end of the world and fighting in huge bloody battles (although I wouldn't decline one ) but I liked the thinking ahead aspect of F3. Maybe it's just because it felt like a Medieval Sims and I quite like that...?

Haha I think someone's about to revoke my gamer badge.

Nier.

A Square Enix produced game that most people probably never even heard of. It was developed by the now defunct team that made the Drakengard games, in case that rings any bells. This was the last game they ever made

It overall, sold rather poorly and was slammed, ironically enough for things that remind me of another of my favorite games....Planescape Torment. The game was mostly an action based, very basic RPG. It mixed multiple playing styles into its gameplay, at times becoming like a platformer, and other times like a SHMUP/bullet hell game. It was not particularly eye-catching, had a rather ugly protagonist, and poor graphics for its time...along with not being a part of any established series. It also had obnoxious fed-ex style quests, and took multiple playthroughs to get everything out of it.

Despite all that though, the thing that made this game so great in my opinion was its story and characters. The voice acting was good, the entire soundtrack....phenomenal, and the story, mood, and overall setting and tone of the game were completely different from what one typically expects from a JRPG. Namely, this game was not about saving the world, it was something much more simple, but more personal...and more honest.

Most of all however, I suppose I was a svcker for the sense of tragedy that permeated the entire game, all four of its endings, and that tore apart the characters in the story. I would say it's a very love it or hate it game, similar to PS:T, but if you can manage to play through and enjoy it, it is worth it.

You are treated to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2lwFiIaMAE song, as the game begins.

Neverwinter Nights 2 got some bad reputation when it was first released but I thought that it was much better than its predecessor. Even though Dragon Age II wasn't as good as Origins, and probably not very good by Bioware standards, I think it's still a game well above average by modern industry standards.

I used to play the demo for this all the time when I was younger, its still in my attic somewhere!

Farmville.

All of my friends hate dynasty warriors but I love every game thats came out !!

I just googled two worlds two and found it for 20 at eb, might get it today

Brink, it was a fantastic take on the FPS genre, I really can't understand why people hated it so bad.

Oblivion. People always say that it didn't live up to the expectations of Morrowind and that it has no replay value. I still play it today, and right after this post I'm going to go play it. I think the funniest thing is that when Skyrim comes out, the same people that said Oblivion didn't live up to Morrowind will be saying that Skyrim doesn't live up to Oblivion.

Prototype.

Having never played a 'superhero-sim' before, the game delivered on pretty much everything I was expecting. Disheartening, since GI put in a "Most Disappointing Games" list.