I meant no fortify restoration type glitches. You know that.

I don't know. I wouldn't call it "the casuals". (Whoever this group of people who apparently ruin the game by leading Beth down a bad path are)

Maybe it was unintentional?

I'm starting to find holes in your story....

Or, even think outside the box.

Give enemies, some of them not all, new ways to deal with more powerful player characters.

For instance, I would be truly, truly impressed with Bethesda if they started taking some pages from the Dungeons & Dragons playbook with things like this:

Some dungeons could have rooms that are a "Null Magic" zone, meaning if you are in that room, all of your Magic and Enchantments no longer work.

I mean, look at the Twilight Seplcur, why are there not more dungeons with sections that are somewhat like the "light hurts you" zones? Why are there no dungeons (that I have seen) with poison gas in them, or more maze like with false doors that could potentially trap you, etc, etc?

Why aren't there more enemies that borrow a page from Oblivion's Ghosts and can only be harmed in certain ways? You know how challenging it would be to come face to face with a Ghost not knowing that only magic can hurt it?


No you're not, because he said Alchemy was the only crafting skill he invested in.

Ah, that is most definitely a lack of comprehensive reading on my part. My apologies. Please carry on. (It's definitely time for me to take a break from the forums, lol. Words are kind of beginning to blur together and isolate themselves in peculiar patterns. Mental fatigue, lol.) Thank you for pointing out my error.

Only Alchemy. No Smithing except Arcane Blacksmith. No Enchanting. I was only refering to CRAFTING TREES. You're being silly.

Honestly if you hit 81 you leveled too many things. Why level everything anyway? I mean you had to level enchanting and all the different magic styles and all that other stuff. Why? You made an overpowered character who is, suprise, overpowered. Yea I get you didn't perk all those trees but every level gives you more health or stamina making you harder to kill. There is no point in going to level 81 on a character except to do it. It doesn't make any sense from a role playing perspective.

You also said you used arcane smithing right or did I read that wrong? That means you wanted to smith your enchanted weapons. Now even without perks 100 smithing can make the weapons very powerful, especially the upper end ones. If you need more of a challenge don't smith at all. Wear weaker armor. Use weaker weapons. Put fewer points into health. The game can be made to be challenging to uber players like yourself. It just takes a little bit of forethought. But no matter what they do someone is going to show up and say they wtfpwnd some boss in 3 seconds and complain about how easy the game is. I even saw that on the Demon's Souls forums and that was a difficult game even when you knew what you were doing.

Bethesda could make the game more difficult but honestly the tools to make it harder are right in front of you if you use them. Just stop over doing it. The only other option is to switch to the PC version and mod it up to make it harder.

Let me tell you this, I have a level 81 (on master) and ancient dragons definitely do NOT go down in 3-4 hits. Not only that but I slightly abused alchemy AND smithing and enchanting. The fact that you claim you play on master and don't use ANY potions/poisons and have used JUST alchemy, to me at least, is quite impossible to believe.

Again, you're asking the player to make it so the game can defeat them, not asking the player to learn how to defeat the game.

Every built up a dual wileding assassin before? Ever experienced the power of the Shadow Warrior before? A destroyer of worlds you will be.

I bet that your One handed skill tree is maxxed, as well, as your Light Armor and Stealth skill trees. BY not spending any perks in smithing, enchanting, or any of the magic schools, unless you have unused perks just sitting there, you made an overpowered melee character. And as someone pointed out, you had to use those unperked skills anyways, just to get to level 81, since I am pretty sure that to acheive that level, you have to have a 100 skill in everything.

This is a "I deliberately broke my game and now my game is broke" complaint...even if you broke it in a non-standard way.

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My bf glitched out a char to 81 just to see how powerful you can legitimately become in the game. Everything died too quickly. One hit here, one hit there. And that was with only using enchanting and no alchemy. Dragons were only two or three hits. And it was master. If it's possible to legitimately become that powerful in the game, then legitimately, the game should keep up. For some people part of the fun of being able to choose how to make your character is to see just how strong you can really make yourself. But if you play outside the developers' expectations, then congratulations, be prepared to be flamed for not being an obedient acquiescent gamer.

Or rather a "I played the game normally and the game itself is broken" type of criticism.


You should be able to make an extremely powerful character.

In turn, the game should have some extremely powerful enemies to keep up with what the player can do.

Not sure if you noticed, but you just poked a MAJOR hole in your logic. You complain because your too powerful, yet you built your character to be able to kill anything. A/S/E aren't the only things that make overpowered characters.

That's not a hole. Built to be able to kill anything, not overpower. There is a distinct difference between being incredibly strong and being so strong that everything dies because you made a funny noise.

Yes... that's kind of the point we're making.

Many things break this game because the game is not balanced well enough.

That's not a major hole in logic, that's a major point as to why their logic is sound.

Personally I enjoy a good action game where I feel godly. It's even more fun if I've made myself out to be that way intentionally. But it's even more fun if I have a worthy opponent to test my skills against. What's the point of doing all the work for it if everything's too weak? I agree with the OP here.

I also invested in the Speech tree. I got all the bartering perks and yes, the One Handed and Stealth trees are filled up. I used Ogma Infinium to get to level 81 cause bugs ruined my other characters I was working on too many times. I hate repeating myself.


I wanted my character to be an Assassin so I built an Assassin, just as you built the character that you wanted. I shouldnt have to choose a weaker build in the first place.

Would you prefer if Beth put enemies back in glass/daedric with their respective weapons then?

How high is your smithing skill? To get arcane, you need to perk steel also. You use the Blades Sword (steel perk) and Blade of Woe (arcane perk) or Mehrunes Razor (steel perk plus chance of instakill), so yes, you've abused two crafting skills if you add alchemy

At least previous TES games were challenging and the difficulty had a more natural evolution.

the thing is, to get a character above the mid 60's, you HAVE to focus on those unused skills that don't suit your normal play style. At some point, his assassin was wearing heavy armor and getting beat on just to train up that skill. At some point he was running around with a shield and blocking constantly. Same for two-handed weapons, and all or most of the spell schools. This falls more into the "powergaming" area than the "playing the game as intended" area, IMHO

"With a Smithing skill of 100 alone (no smithing enhancing potions or items) it is possible to obtain base damages of upwards of 60 with relative ease. Combined with the http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Assassin%27s_Blade Perk and Shrouded Hand Wraps/Shrouded Gloves sneak attacks can easily reach 1800+ damage."

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two perks into crafting does not godly weapons make.

No, he used a glitch to get to 81 because he was tired of leveling up characters when bugs ruined his previous builds.