Hey everyone, celebrity sighting.. everyone say hello to Confucius who has decided to pop in and share his wisdom!

I have one bug. And I want to keep it forever.... Resist Magic comes up in my Enchanting list twice. I dual enchant a ring and a necklace with Resist Magic twice, and I have 100% Magic Resistance. I gave it to my follower. I was so happy, because all the spells I use would either kill her or make her want to kill me... But no longer!

Oh yeah, and stop whining and move on with your life

Actually, I think they should. As I said earlier, I've voiced my problems to Gstaff, Bethesda's Customer Service email, and Zenimax's overall contact information, time and time again since the game came out. When they announced Patch 1.2, I contacted them to let them know what I wanted fixed. When Patch 1.2 came out, I contacted them saying I was disappointed some of the bugs I wanted to be addressed weren't, but I was grateful for the other fixes and hoped they could fix my problems (which I again enumerated) in the next patch. When 1.3 rolled around, I did this again. Same with 1.4, and again with 1.5. 1.6 hasn't been released yet for my system, but I've already voiced my disappointment again that I am continuously being ignored by these patches. So I've taken to letting people know my displeasure. I've talked about 20 people out of preordering Dishonored at Best Buy and Gamestop, and have convinced them to get Bioshock Infinite instead, because Bethesda has yet to address the problems I continuously ask them to fix.

I know Bethesda has a lot of customers, and they have to measure out their decisions carefully, but if I as a customer feel that a company doesn't care about the problems I'm experiencing, I'm going to tell others and try and convince them not take their business elsewhere.

If I as a customer don't voice problems to the developer, I shouldn't be that upset when the problems I am experiencing aren't the ones being fixed. But when I repeatedly bring bugs and problems to the developer's attention, and they do nothing to address them, I feel I'm well within my rights to be disgruntled and to voice my displeasure.

1.6 came out on the 11th, about 10 days ago, the beta for the patch was out a few days after that I'm pretty sure. Definitely not three weeks.

REL, the world does not revolve around you. You are not special.

I try not to respond unless I've read a thread carefully.

I'm sorry that your game is broken. You didn't mention how it was broken, only that trying to continue the Civil War questline breaks it.

Having said that, there's an element to their prioritizing that I neglected to mention: bug frequency. How many others have experienced the bug you are (formally, not informally)? If it's a small percentage of their users and a particularly difficult fix, is Bethesda going to see a positive ROI on the patch?

I empathize with you, but I don't believe that Bethesda should halt planned development to correct issues that relatively few of its users are experiencing.

**Edited for poor grammar; perhaps someday the author will learn to proof read...

Kinda missing the point, I think.

I'm not suggesting the world revolves around me, or anyone else, but Bethesda as a business revolves around consumers. They depend on customers buying their products. Returning customers are vital for businesses, and to guarantee (or nearly guarantee) returning customers you need to make them happy. If I'm not a happy customer, I'm not going to return to do business with them again, but I'm spiteful and vindictive when I feel wronged, and being sold a broken game for the PS3, which even you've stated was wrong on their part, makes me feel wronged. I'd be okay if they fixed my problems, but they haven't and I don't see it happening any time soon, so I have to find other outlets to get my point across. Me not buying Dishonored won't hurt them, but if I can convince more people not to buy it, that might make a dent. More so if others who feel wronged do the same.

Despite the fact that you carefully read the thread, let me point out this post...


Click the link. The Civil War quest line is bugged for A LOT of people, not just a few of us. Other than that, again, I agree with what you are saying, they have to prioritize because of the shear volume of bugs, I'm down with that.

BTW, I can give you a couple of examples of what happens after I progress too far in Civil War...
1) No longer get dragon souls
2) Can't receive many words of power
3) Dialogue sticks and I don't receive rewards
4) Can't place quest items like lexicons on their holders to advance a quest

Just a very few of the problems.

I respect your decision regarding Dishonored; I disagree with it, but I respect it.

Bethesda can't possibly fix every issue brought to their attention, and I'm sorry you feel like you were ignored, but Bethesda cannot place you in front everyone else who has purchased their game. They have to prioritize differently than you would prefer. That's the reality of the situation.

Wow. The guy has problems with the game and contacts Bethesda to tell them about his problems. His problems aren't fixed and here we are 6 months later and he still has a broken game and you can't sympathize with him and say you are sorry he's having problems and just leave him be? Instead he gets that? I swear, the gaming community is one of the most unforgiving I have seen. I mean, WE, all of us in this thread, are the consumers and should have a unified voice asking for improvements in the product. Instead...

REL, I get your point, I'm just saying they sold millions of units, and on Playstation had issues like, oh, the game not working properly (their fault). They can't prioritise every issue everybody has - they have to break it down. So your issues didn't get fixed. Sorry. Other peoples issues did get fixed - hundreds of them.

You are free to do whatever you want, obviously. Just remember that you are not special, because everybody is.

You certainly seem to think Bethesda has done an excellent job in prioritizing their fixes and yet, they haven't. I don't know REL's problem, but there are still big issues out there that are still broken, no excuse for it, not even prioritization.

I clicked the link. Forgive me if I don't take the text in user maintained encyclopedia (without any citations I might add) as gospel.

Again, I empathize with you, but how many others are actually experiencing these problems? And more to the point, is it worth Bethesda's time to fix it?

Bethesda has fixed more thing bugs, then they did in Oblivion life time, you should all be grateful that there not abandoning us, like other games.

Actually, prioritisation is the perfect reason. This topic started because of somebody complaining the bugs around used quest items not removing isn't fixed. That's not a big issue, that's prioritisation in action.

"We should be grateful to them for selling us a buggy product, and actually fixing the game little by little to be in a state that is closer to how it should have been when it released."

Wow.. there have been numerous reports and comments made about the Civil War quest line, it's a fairly wide spread issue but whatever man, there is no point in trying to convince people that are happy with the status quo. Besides, I get tired of the Shari Lewis and Lamb Chop act we're getting from Wizard and gossi.

Nbtc, is there a read for the civil war issues you're seeing on the forum, do you know? If there isn't, you should start one. Is it fixed in the unofficial patch?

You're ignoring bug frequency. Without seeing the actual figures, you can't know that they aren't prioritizing correctly. It becomes your premise and not your argument.

Quoted for the greatness of the post. It is absolutely true.

Some people, correctly, recognize that there are trade offs in life, and that some of the trade offs others make aren't necessarily the ones we might prefer. As you have abandoned any further attempts at civility, this will be the last I have in response to you.

Then that goes to show how they should not be making games since they don't have the competence.

Just my 2 cents:

Most bugs I faced were fixed by reloading an earlier save. I was level 74 and suddenly, any and every dungeon I entered caused my game to crash. Just straight up froze my Xbox. Sometimes, even whole areas such as around the Abandoned Prison or north of Morthal would freeze my game.

Reloaded to level 68, no more crashes.

Some things seem eternally broken to me, such as Blood on the Ice not beginning, or my precious Shield Charge not working. Now and then, a dungeon won't respawn.

Are they upsetting? Fairly. Do I hate Bethesda for it? Not really. I still enjoy the game greatly, and I know i'll love Dawnguard.

If I learned one thing from past games such as Fallout 3, it's that you should save often and don't be scared to lose some progress when you back track to fix a bug.

Another good post.

I'm guessing people have been playing the same character since release? In my most recent character all the items you mentioned get removed upon quest completion and I've learned not grab quest items unless I'm on the quest.